Wouldn't it be better for ALL of us to sign up directly under the main HA LOTTO site? That way we could fill ALL of our matrixes faster. Now I'm VERY NEW to MLM. .. .so I could be wrong so be kind with your responses.
-Alan
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Wouldn't it be better for ALL of us to sign up directly under the main HA LOTTO site? That way we could fill ALL of our matrixes faster. Now I'm VERY NEW to MLM. .. .so I could be wrong so be kind with your responses.
-Alan
bump ....
Now since Rol Club has full matrix, it would not be bad idea to send people to default log link.
In forced matrix, all new sign ups will fill empty spots from top to bottom and left to right.
Also anyone sign in before doors are open to public will have great advantage in commission earnings.
Let's put all our forces together and promote pre-lunch.
Bryan OKed to promote before lunch but you need to mention in subject line that is pre-lunch.
Go see HA Lotto forum for instructions.
newlife pre lunch is that before dinar lol
Interesting,Quote:
Originally Posted by ox1216
Technically, at this point, no. You have to visualize that there are five top poisitions, and each forum and HA Admin occupy these top positions. As you will notice, ROL was the largest group, hence, their matrix filled, but that does not mean it has stopped growing as those who are in this matrix will build out faster as there are more people in it.
Spillover does not overlap into other matrices, as hard as that may be to visualize, so if you were to sign up under HA, very little is happening from within this matrix, not until it is promoted, which is something that was mentioned at one time, but who knows when and how it will be done.
If you were to see each matrix side by side, you would be able to see it more clearly. ROL was first to build out a complete matrix, so it would only make sense that this would continue given the shear number of people in matrix already. It is now up to the individual to start referring others, and if you stay within the ROL, you will see the most potential of spill as we are all working it as a team, so using your own URL is what I would suggest at this time since it will accomplish the same as using ROL as every new person is forced downline at this point.
Good luck to all, Mike
Interesting,Quote:
Originally Posted by newlife
Only if everyone were to now use default would it be placed in highest level as each matrix of ROL, AU, HA, Pioneers, default is separate from each other unless you register under Bryan's link, or whateve link is at the very top. I don't know if it is HA admin. or what, but only if you were to use this top llink would it flow downline left to right in total. If under any of the first five, this does not happen as it is limited to each of five matrices. So does anyone know what the top url really is? Is it default, or HA admin? You may still be better off going under ROL link as it has the most people above you hopefully working to build it even bigger. (g)
Good luck to all, Mike
Mike, here is how it worksQuote:
Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com
Level 0 = Default ( Admin or what ever you call it) Note: default does not have more than 5 on its first level
Level 1 = Rolclub, Aus, Pioneers, ? and ? = 5
Level 2 = 5 each of level 2 = 25
Level 3 = 5 each of level 3 = 125 etc.
This is per Bryan explanation so if you sign up under default you are spillover and placed on any empty spot below. So in other words everybody is getting benefit.
I also noticed that your personal sign up goes first to your immediate downline structure.
I have one person on my second level recruited 5 and other person on same level has 0. I will check with Bryan if this is OK.
General sign up ( under default) I know,goes to empty spot on next down position.
I hope this helps in understanding how it works
PS I forgot, any sign up under default goes to any open spot under any of top 5 downline.
Agreed,Quote:
Originally Posted by newlife
So if default is HA admin, then what would happen is the next spot would be filled as decribed, but what we would see is that this spot would only be under weak leg, whatever that may be. My point is, being in a weak leg is less desirable than being under a strong leg, so by registering under ROL, you would be under the strongest leg with the most members.
So I ask you, where would you want to be in system knowing this? Any matrix is only as strong as the people above you, so in my calculations, it would be best to register under ROL leg, any url at this point, but not in default leg as this is the weakest link. (g)
Good luck to all, Mike
Mike, it is no week leg or strong leg. That is not binary matrix system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com
You missed my PS note.
Spillover fall any place in matrix, regardless where is. I could bring someone thru my advertising and that person could fall in open spot under Aussie leg, even so I am under RolClub. You see my point. Rolclub is already full in matrix, so rest will fall were ever.
I am referring to the five individual matrices as legs, and whether we are speaking of binary or matrix, they both have legs. If you registered under one of these legs, ROL, AU, HA, Pioneer, Default, whatever, you will not have any impact on the other legs as each is a seperate matrix within the main matrix.Quote:
Originally Posted by newlife
Yes, ROL is full, but only those in ROL matrix will benefit others in ROL, not those in other legs, or whatever you want to call them, they are all independent matrices and do not overlap, so you fall into one of these matrices, and anything you do personally will only fall into the same leg, unit, whatever. There is no way your efforts can impact others in their own matrices, it does not work that way, so I have to disagree. They will not fall wherever, only within the boundaries of each five matrices. Hope that is more to the point I was trying to make.
Simply put, when a level is filled in your matrix, it will move down one to first position to left in next level. It does not keep moving to the right until it is in last position to left of all five matrices, so as you can see, you have to look at matrix not as one, but as many many under one, each independent of the other. It would be nice to see each group post their matrix like Marek did to see it more clearly. You will then see how unbalanced the whole matrix is, which ROL having the most people and the deepest levels filled, while the others have less as it now stands.
Good luck to all, Mike
Also needing to be mentioned is the fact that although ROLC's downline/matrix is full, meaning Marek's got a "full boat", the rest of those that have joined under him do not. I'm in ROLC's top tier and while my top 3 levels are full I still need over 500 in my bottom level to fill it out. Being that spillover will fill up the "upper" levels first, only signups under ROLC's "leg" will continue ROLC's "filling out" process. If someone signs up directly using HA Lotto's URL, it will go to one of the other "top tier" downlines and not necessarily ROLC's. Only if all of the other matrices have more members signed up than ROLC will the spillover help ROLC.
BINGO,Quote:
Originally Posted by everwiser
That is exactly right, so we all have to get busy. (g)
Good luck to all, Mike
Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com
I was just asking question to Bryan about this issue(waiting for answer).
Well as you say it spillover benefit will get only members under strong recruter and promoter, so if other 4 of top legs do not bring new mebers as good as no. 5 , downline in other 4 legs will have bad luck and earnings would not be as good.
As I was saying distribution of spillover among all 5 top legs would be fair and equal.
I will wait for Bryan's answer so than we will know real deal.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
No problem, we are just discussing how the system works, so let us know when Bryan answers. Technically, if fairness was to work for everyone, then we should have all registered under default HA admin, or whatever top position is, but once you roll it out as was done, it is too late, as all others follow the same matrix they started in. As ROL was the stongest leg, it only made sense that this would be the first matrix to fill out, but if it was promoted with HA as link, then there would be a balanced completed matrix plus. I know Bryan was moving some around, so who knows, it may have changed a few people into other legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by newlife
Good luck to all, Mike
Hi, all,
afaik Bryan wrote that
(*) root's spill-over is distributed in rotation:
http://www.rolclub.com/showthread.php?p=51917#post51917
(**) affiliate's spill-over is distributed top to bottom, left to right:
http://www.rolclub.com/showthread.php?p=52468#post52468
To this, I added a few questions at halotto forum's 'matrix questions' thread - fyi:
(*) Maybe someone can search the forum and inform you... or ask Bryan to confirm that this hasn't been changed since?If these assumptions are true... it depends on your definition of solidarity which sign up link to use: yours for you & your downline, rolclub's for the rolclub group as a whole or the root's for the entire matrix (including not only rolclub's but the downlines of the other level 1 places as well). (Right?)
Btw: if true, this imo means that your position as such doesn't influence the share of root spill-over you get: you'll get one new downline in each 'round' whereever you are, whether it be a big or a small leg... It's your own downline growth which'll determine how much root spill-over you'll attract.
The only thing I wonder about is if *all* affiliates get one in turn... or only those with still an empty spot on their level 1. And if all... suppose your level 1 is already full... which position will be filled then...
(**) And... I suppose that when the 4 levels of your downline are full, new recruited affiliates will still drill down inside your submatrix to the fifth level (or lower) to the next free spot(s)... So even though you (like rolclub for example) won't profit anymore from these, the rest of your downline will.
I hope this makes sense, as I don't follow halotto anymore in detail...
Hasse
My thoughts on the matrix.
Some people don’t seem to realize that their commission income will only come from their downline in THEIR OWN MATRIX.
Affiliates above them or beside them do not create income for them.
If your matrix is not filled (and few are at this stage) you should be promoting your own signup link. If your first five is in place, future signups would go under them and so on, until your matrix is filled.
If your matrix is filled you could continue to promote your own signup link and the spillover would go left to right into your fifth level (no commission for you here). What that would do is help strengthen your downline affiliates matrixes.
If the people in your upline are doing this, you should see some spillover from them. This will help to fill your matrix faster.
If they are not, then you are on your own.
Also by promoting your own signup link some people may join as members. When these members buy lotto tickets, you get commission.
If you were promoting any other signup link, the member signups would go to them and not you. And the affiliates may or may not end up in your matrix.
cmr
Seems obvious that people should promote their own link rather than any other......but maybe that is just not complicated enough for some?
Dave
Well, addhesive, somethimes people have other motives than barely looking for themselves, you know. Indeed that aint that simple... and not obvious at all... but it happens...
Hasse
Fyi, in addition to my earlier post...
Bryan confirmed in his latest CEO announcement at halotto forum that he switched on the rotation, although slightly changed to benefit more members. Root spillover, a new member signing up under the default site, will be allocated to the first member in the database that has less than 3 members on thir first level. When that member has two it then allocates to the next member with less than 3 and so on. This way, he states, all members will get their downlines started.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasse
Take care,
Hasse
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