I cant sign up because the site is still under construction!!
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I cant sign up because the site is still under construction!!
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Still under construction, both affiliate and ordinary member too. Just try again later I guess guys and gals
Please sign up from the ref-link Bryan is going to put on the forum when the Lotto program starts. Fell free to PM me if you need any help.....:smiley:Quote:
Originally Posted by madness
We still love you Bryan!
hi,bryan i would like to know if lotto has begun or when it may begin,also if someone can email me all info on this program. email - [email protected] .thankyouQuote:
Originally Posted by BM
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Originally Posted by jdigi1000
The problem is not with participating, but actually selling the tickets from your site. The law specifies that you cannot "sell" tickets in a lottery regardless of where the lotto is, since you are not a licensed agent. The laws in the US are much more strict than those in the UK or other parts of the world. Sorry folks but USA folks cannot participate, unless they want to break the law. The authorities usually won't go after the casinos and those other that email and spam you, but they will go after unauthorized agents selling tickets, and that is what the problems is with the HA lotto for US members, its that simple.
Interesting,Quote:
Originally Posted by kingpau
We are not in possession of tickets, we are not collecting money for tickets, nor is there any tickets, so we are not selling tickets to anyone anwhere anytime. You have to get the word ticket straight, we do not handle ticket, it is virtual game, and we are not selling, we are referring others to make their own virtual purchase, and until the verbiage is changed, it is legal in US. Not to say they won't, but it is currently referring to tickets, as in paper ticket, as in your hands, not virtual lotto.
Good luck to all, Mike
You are selling tickets. It is clearly stated in the membership agreement that you sell tickets to earn a commission. It doesn't matter if you have the ticket in hand or not, you are selling lotto tickets to participate in the affiliate program. You are handling transaction of tickets through your affiliate site, which makes you an agent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com
So your saying because I don't have the ticket in hand, that I am not physically selling anything? Rubbish. You are still participating in a transaction to sell lotto tickets and that is illegal in the United States, period.
Wrong,Quote:
Originally Posted by kingpau
The site has to define a sale for the obvious reasons, but this has nothing to do with members selling physical tickets or collecting actual money, as in person to person selling, this defines selling in the eyes of the regulations. Without physical proof, as in evidence, there can be no crime. If someone hits the site and makes a purchase, it is virtual, no tickets, no money, no violation under current regulations.
We are not agents, the local 7-11 is the lotto agent, we are not involved in person to person sales, and that is what law is talking about. If someone stumbles onto the HA site and makes a purchase, did you have anything to do with it? The law is not speaking about internet offshore lotto because when it was written, the internet didn't exist.
Good luck to all, Mike
I beg to differ again Mike, but if you sign up as an AFFILIATE of HA lotto that makes you an agent. If someone comes to your site by accident and purchases a lotto ticket from your site, you have violated the law in the United States. By participating in the affiliate program you are technically an agent for HA lotto. Let's look at another part of the law, which President Clinton signed under the Federal Crime Bill (which was signed into law during the Clinton administration in which the Internet did exists, don't you remember Al Gore invented the Internet(lol))Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com
TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 61 > § 1301
§ 1301. Importing or transporting lottery tickets
Link: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/h...1----000-.html
Whoever brings into the United States for the purpose of disposing of the same, or knowingly deposits with any express company or other common carrier for carriage, or carries in interstate or foreign commerce any paper, certificate, or instrument purporting to be or to represent a ticket, chance, share, or interest in or dependent upon the event of a lottery, gift enterprise, or similar scheme, offering prizes dependent in whole or in part upon lot or chance, or any advertisement of, or list of the prizes drawn or awarded by means of, any such lottery, gift enterprise, or similar scheme; or, being engaged in the business of procuring for a person in 1 State such a ticket, chance, share, or interest in a lottery, gift,[1] enterprise or similar scheme conducted by another State (unless that business is permitted under an agreement between the States in question or appropriate authorities of those States), knowingly transmits in interstate or foreign commerce information to be used for the purpose of procuring such a ticket, chance, share, or interest; or knowingly takes or receives any such paper, certificate, instrument, advertisement, or list so brought, deposited, or transported, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both"
I don't know how to bold certain parts of this text, so beginning at "knowingly" after the (). You are knowlingly transmitting information to be used for the purpose of procuring such a ticket, chance, share or interest, or knowingly takes or receives any such paper, certificate, instrument (the net), advertisement (a web banner).
If this were a "syndicate" or "pool" lotto it would be o.k., but HA lotto stands by itself, so it is a foreign lotto with US affiliates that are referring individuals to their pages to purchase a foreign lotto ticket. Which means US members are knowlingly participating in the transaction of a foreign lotto ticket purchase, which is ILLEGAL!
I wish that it wasn't this way, I wish I could sign up for this, but the fact is that US members cannot particiapte without breaking the law! In foreign violations of this law, it will be the Secret Service that will be involved, personally I will not be taking the chance (no pun intended).