Thread: SMF/Swisscash Launched The Emergig Market Fund(EMF)

Interesting debate. Anway good good. :)

Originally Posted by summeromeo

Interesting debate. Anway good good. :)

There are members all over the Net posting they want to sell their E-Points. These are not the Bigtime Promoters with the fancy Blogs out there Hustling REFERALS. These are little people waiting for Transfers and no communication. No help from Upline. The Millionaire Icons are no longer willing to help out as they don't want to part with their hard Won Cash. Many may have already left the Building.

As we know , SwissCash found it necessary to go deeper underground this past Fall and turn over Payment responsibilities to Appointed Company Dealer Exchangers listed inside the Backoffice accounts. How reliable could this be. This company is a massive Pyramid with multiple Pyramid Investment Teams within it's structure. How organized could it really be. Especially when Authorities are nabbing certain Ponzi groups one at a time within the organization for fraud as we have already have seen posted in Southeast Asian Government and Banking websites.

Personally and for the Public Record , I don't find any of this to be funny. There are no doubt thousands of the Computer illiterate who had no means to do the due diligence who will suffer the worst. The Promoters will move on and chalk this up to another missed opportunity and move on to something else. Just look at many of the Blogs and the string of HYIPs they are involved with.

Just my observations

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Again for the record , let me give a very honest Example of a Promoter who actually knows what's really going on and does'nt really care.


Posted by username , Poperr ( At TalkGold ) EXACT QUOTE

Again , members from SwissCash do not generally care if the info on the web site is not true. It's merely a Game that those in southeast Asia enjoy playing.



I am purely an investor and have 200% of my 5000 USD. I have come to the conclusion that swisscash will last for a while yet... Re Dates , I reckon they will be around till atleast early 2008 and maybe a deal longer. END OF QUOTE


I find that sad and also discusting . However I do respect the individuals Honesty , it's the other people who believe all this to be legit and true that members should show fellow feeling for. If you like to play the Games as many have said , then i have no problem with you , but to promote the things on the website as truth and misleading someone out there to join based on what the website says and not the Gaming Understanding you may hold , is absolutely wrong.

Digest this for a while.

Can Anyone Get Into Swisscash? I Cannot Login Or Send Them An Email. Is Anyone Else Having A Problem?

Originally Posted by elgordo

Can Anyone Get Into Swisscash? I Cannot Login Or Send Them An Email. Is Anyone Else Having A Problem?

hi elgordo,
I did login to my account just now. No problem. Try again and make sure your password is correct and the domain is swisscash.net

Originally Posted by bluepacific

There are members all over the Net posting they want to sell their E-Points. These are not the Bigtime Promoters with the fancy Blogs out there Hustling REFERALS. These are little people waiting for Transfers and no communication. No help from Upline. The Millionaire Icons are no longer willing to help out as they don't want to part with their hard Won Cash. Many may have already left the Building.

As we know , SwissCash found it necessary to go deeper underground this past Fall and turn over Payment responsibilities to Appointed Company Dealer Exchangers listed inside the Backoffice accounts. How reliable could this be. This company is a massive Pyramid with multiple Pyramid Investment Teams within it's structure. How organized could it really be. Especially when Authorities are nabbing certain Ponzi groups one at a time within the organization for fraud as we have already have seen posted in Southeast Asian Government and Banking websites.

Personally and for the Public Record , I don't find any of this to be funny. There are no doubt thousands of the Computer illiterate who had no means to do the due diligence who will suffer the worst. The Promoters will move on and chalk this up to another missed opportunity and move on to something else. Just look at many of the Blogs and the string of HYIPs they are involved with.

Just my observations

YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN. SwissCash is Not a Pyramid Scheme.

I hope the article below helps you understand re:Pyramid Scheme.

Sunday, February 11, 2007

Before judging Swisscash as a pyramid scheme

This post is research from one of the member from MMG there. Special thanks to "SwissXXX" which share this information with us in the forum there!

According to Mr. Spencer Reese who is a partner in the law firm of Grimes & Reese, graduate of the Washington University School of law and is a member of the Idaho, Missouri and Colorado bars, he wrote "There is no law stating that operation of a binary compensation plan constitutes a consumer fraud, or a company using a binary plan is a pyramid. Thus, so long as the implementation of a binary plan complies with the laws governing the operation of multilevel business, it will be legal." Source: http://www.mlmstartup.com/articles/binaries.htm


According to another MLM lawyer Jeffrey A. Babener, the principal attorney in the Portland, Oregon law firm of Babener & Associates in the United States, he wrote " Compensation is paid on group volume of the downline legs rather than a percentage of sales of multiple levels of distributors. In other words, payment is volume driven rather than level driven. Sales volume must be balanced in the two legs to be eligible for commissions, which are paid at designated points when target levels of group sales are achieved. The distributor may occupy multiple positions and may re-enter or loop below other two leg matrices in which he or she has been active. There is no depth limit on payment but each matrix has a finite amount that can be paid out, thus necessitating involvement in multiple two leg matrices. ... The required balancing of sales volume between legs meant that hard work might yield no payoff and income would be forfeited, because personal production did not count if balanced sales volume did not occur." Source: http://www.mlmlegal.com/sizing.html


For most uplines, there are unbalanced group sales and will not get any SFP bonus. Not all earlier investors at the top of the structure get the equal benefits from the bottom structure. Only those who put in real effort to build the network and balancing the right and left teams sales will receive the reward for their hard work and recognition.

In conclusion, "There is no law stating that operation of a binary compensation plan constitutes a consumer fraud, or a company using a binary plan is a pyramid."

Labels: Pyramid Scheme
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pinetree

HEADLINE NEWS from New Zealand


Breaking News


This Breaking News segment is sponsored by the Soap Opera , ' As The SpinCycle Turns '. For all your Money Laundering needs use SwissMutualFund/SwissCash.


It would appear that the Mysterious Underground Malaysian Investment Ponzi SwissMutualFund/SwissCash has made yet another exit from it's last location to another one in the last couple of days. Checkout there present Whois.

Just when you thought it was safe to go into the water

www.swissmutualfund.biz

Whois record

Domian Name: SWISSMUTUALFUND.BIZ
Domian ID: D10060781-BIZ
Sponsoring Registrar: DIRECT INFORMATION PVT LTD PUBLICDOMAINREGISTRY.COM
Sponsoring Registrar: IANA ID: 303
Domain status: clientDeleteProhibited
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Registrant ID: PP-SP-001
Registrant Organization: Privacyprotect.org
Registrant Address1: PO BOX 83.000
Registrant Address2: Johnsonville
Registrant City: Wellington
Registrant Postal Code: 6440
Registrant Country: New Zealand
Registran Country code: NZ
Registrant Email: contact@privacyprotect.org

Administrative Contact: = ( SAME )

Billing Contact: = ( SAME )

Technical Contact: = ( SAME )

Name Server: NS1.ORD.GIGESERVERS.COM
Name Server: NS3.IAD.GIGESERVERS.COM
Created By Registrar: ENOM, INC
Last Updated By Registrar: DIRECT INFORMATION PVT DBA PUBLICDOMAINREGISTRY.COM
Last Transfered Date: Wed Jun 21 16:05:37 GMY 2006
Domain Registration Date: Sun Jun 12 06:16:23 GMT 2005
Domain Expiration Date:Sat Jun 11 23:59:59 GMT 2011
Domain Last Updated Date: Thu Feb 15 07:20:28 GMY 2007

>>>>>>>>>Whois database was last updated on: Tue Feb 27 09:41:16 GMT 2007

That's funny , last I knew they were registered here,

Welcome to SWISS MUTUAL FUND
Michael Mansfield
PO BOX 2342
Roseau
10000
Dominica

Okay Boys and Girls , look at what else has always resided at this same address.

Lot To Inc.

Headquarters:

Copthal

PO BOX 2342 , Roseau

Commonwealth of dominica

Contact

Once again Boys and Girls , I just eat this up with a spoon.

For all your Money Laundering and Adult website needs , Please contact Copthal Lot To Inc. in care of SwissMutualFund/SwissCash


Have A Nice Day

Originally Posted by bluepacific

HEADLINE NEWS from New Zealand


Breaking News


This Breaking News segment is sponsored by the Soap Opera , ' As The SpinCycle Turns '. For all your Money Laundering needs use SwissMutualFund/SwissCash.


It would appear that the Mysterious Underground Malaysian Investment Ponzi SwissMutualFund/SwissCash has made yet another exit from it's last location to another one in the last couple of days. Checkout there present Whois.

Just when you thought it was safe to go into the water

www.swissmutualfund.biz

Whois record

Domian Name: SWISSMUTUALFUND.BIZ
Domian ID: D10060781-BIZ
Sponsoring Registrar: DIRECT INFORMATION PVT LTD PUBLICDOMAINREGISTRY.COM
Sponsoring Registrar: IANA ID: 303
Domain status: clientDeleteProhibited
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Registrant ID: PP-SP-001
Registrant Organization: Privacyprotect.org
Registrant Address1: PO BOX 83.000
Registrant Address2: Johnsonville
Registrant City: Wellington
Registrant Postal Code: 6440
Registrant Country: New Zealand
Registran Country code: NZ
Registrant Email: contact@privacyprotect.org

Administrative Contact: = ( SAME )

Billing Contact: = ( SAME )

Technical Contact: = ( SAME )

Name Server: NS1.ORD.GIGESERVERS.COM
Name Server: NS3.IAD.GIGESERVERS.COM
Created By Registrar: ENOM, INC
Last Updated By Registrar: DIRECT INFORMATION PVT DBA PUBLICDOMAINREGISTRY.COM
Last Transfered Date: Wed Jun 21 16:05:37 GMY 2006
Domain Registration Date: Sun Jun 12 06:16:23 GMT 2005
Domain Expiration Date:Sat Jun 11 23:59:59 GMT 2011
Domain Last Updated Date: Thu Feb 15 07:20:28 GMY 2007

>>>>>>>>>Whois database was last updated on: Tue Feb 27 09:41:16 GMT 2007

That's funny , last I knew they were registered here,

Welcome to SWISS MUTUAL FUND
Michael Mansfield
PO BOX 2342
Roseau
10000
Dominica

Okay Boys and Girls , look at what else has always resided at this same address.

Lot To Inc.

Headquarters:

Copthal

PO BOX 3242 , Roseau

Commonwealth of dominica

Contact

Once again Boys and Girls , I just eat this up with a spoon.

For all your Money Laundering and Adult website needs , Please contact Copthal Lot To Inc. in care of SwissMutualFund/SwissCash


Have A Nice Day

hi blue,

U really are very spirited to prove something that isn't. Keep up the good work boy.Next months is SC's 2nd year anniversary and yet u still try to prove it's a scam. I admire your work blue.Really do.Keep it up my friends.Don't give up ok.

As for your claims above, I strongly suggested you better check your eyes frequently.There are 2 different P.O Box !..Maybe spending to much time in front of pc trying to prove 'something' makes your eyes a little bit out of alignment.

Originally Posted by online4money

hi blue,

U really are very spirited to prove something that isn't. Keep up the good work boy.Next months is SC's 2nd year anniversary and yet u still try to prove it's a scam. I admire your work blue.Really do.Keep it up my friends.Don't give up ok.

As for your claims above, I strongly suggested you better check your eyes frequently.There are 2 different P.O Box !..Maybe spending to much time in front of pc trying to prove 'something' makes your eyes a little bit out of alignment.

Hey Irwan HomeBoy.biz

Thanks for pointing out the typo. You're the best.

Did you ever get a Brokers Licence for Accepting money from prospective investors ??? I'd really hate to see a handsome Cholo Drug Cartel Kingpin like yourself go to Jail, especially before you hit your first Million.

Oh , by the way , just in case you did'nt realize it , but MayBank really does'nt want any Money Laundering done through their Banking fascilities. This goes for both Unlicenced and Licenced Money Investment Brokers , but especially those involved with SwissCash. Here's the link.

Maybank Has No Business With SWISS CASH.BIZ

Just returning the Favour.

Oh I have plenty more by the way. I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

Originally Posted by bluepacific

Hey Irwan HomeBoy.biz

Thanks for pointing out the typo. You're the best.

Did you ever get a Brokers Licence for Accepting money from prospective investors ??? I'd really hate to see a handsome Cholo Drug Cartel Kingpin like yourself go to Jail, especially before you hit your first Million.

Oh , by the way , just in case you did'nt realize it , but MayBank really does'nt want any Money Laundering done through their Banking fascilities. This goes for both Unlicenced and Licenced Money Investment Brokers , but especially those involved with SwissCash. Here's the link.

Maybank Has No Business With SWISS CASH.BIZ

Just returning the Favour.

Oh I have plenty more by the way. I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

hi blue,

You are most welcomed. But I wondering who is irwan.homeboybiz?.Surely it's not me. And for the case of Maybank, why in the world that they need to have relationship with SMF?. Maybank only provides services on managing our personal account. And mostly we have Maybank as our personal bank. SMF wired transfered our profit directly to our personal account and in my case, it's Maybank account. It's just a services provided by Maybank.

Some example: You buy a watch at e-bay.com..Is it you need to have any relationship with e-bay.com to use their services?

And for the brokers license, we do not need one as we are not a broker. What we did is we sell e-currency that is e-point to investor as SC system used e-points as its electronic currency.Then investor itself will use that e-points as they want. This is temporarily as SC will comeout with a payment processor soon as previously all the money have to be TT to SMF.