dinar/ne no sp la ce . c o m ???Dont ban me

I was banned from n e n o s p l a c e . c o m for this and think that it is totally unfair and it does beg the question
COULD IT BE TRUE???
And Why Lie???
neno s place
THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD IS TO HOPEFULLY SHED SOME LIGHT ON THE SIMILARITIES BETWEEN "rolclub.com" AND "***************", I HEARD THIS INFORMATION WAS BROUGHT TO NENO'S ATTENTION AND HE SD (i am not quoting here)THAT THIS WAS A COINCIDENCE. [/B

DISCLAIMER: I AM ONLY STARTING A DISCUSSION THAT INVESTORS SHOULD LOOK AT AND THEN MAKE THEIR ON DECISION. I AM MAKING NO ACUSATIONS, I AM ONLY SHARING PUBLIC INFORMATION TO SHED LIGHT ON THIS. IF IT TURNS OUT TO BE A COINCIDENCE THEN ALL IS WELL

EVERYONE SHOULD TAKE SOME TIME AND LOOK AROUND, DO YOU REALLY HAVE FRIENDS HERE. REMEMBER THAT NOBODY GIVES SOMETHING FOR NOTHING AND THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY BEING MADE BY SOME OUT HERE ON NNPer's INVESTING IN THE DINAR. WE HAVE ALL SEEN THE HYPE AND THAT HYPE SELLS DINAR!

DONT GET ME WRONG; I AM AN INVESTOR IN DINARS AND I BELIEVE THIS WILL HAPPEN BUT NOBODY KNOWS WHEN AND IT PROBABLY ISNT GOING TO HAPPEN FOR A WHILE. I AM IN IT FOR THE LONG HAUL, BUT I JUST HAD TO CLEAR THE AIR BY BRINGING THIS TO LIGHT AND ONCE AND FOR ALL FIND OUT IF THIS IS SOMETHING NENO HAS BEEN DOING FOR SOME TIME OR IS IT TRUE THAT HE IS A TRUCK DRIVER AND JUST SIMPLY SEES THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY OF A LIFETIME.

If you are smart you will do two things

1.) Visit "rolclub.com" and notice all the similarities to "***************"
2.) Visit "register.com and lookup both sites and notice they are marked as private registrations(then go look up anybody else and you see that private registrations are few and seemingly shady
3.) Go to "google.com" and click on advanced search and type in "***************" in the all these words box then go down to search within a site or domain and put in "www.rolclub.com". VERY INTERESTING STUFF!

P.S. You will see what I am talking about when the google links come up, but the most interesting part is when you go to rolclub.com; the info is missing. This is because Google has a large cache of old information that was on the site @ one time but has since been removed.

*****AGAIN I AM ONLY SEEKING THE TRUTH AND ME NO HARM*****

REGISTER.COM
INFORMATION

Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (Complete Web Solutions: domains, hosting, site builders and SSL.)
Domain Name: ***************
Created on: 11-Jun-06
Expires on: 11-Jun-09
Last Updated on: 29-May-08

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration ***************@domainsbyproxy.com
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2599

Technical Contact:
Private, Registration ***************@domainsbyproxy.com
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2599

Domain servers in listed order:
NS51.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS52.DOMAINCONTROL.COM

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Registrant:
Domain Listing Agent (NRPDB) [email protected]
PO Box 927010
San Diego, CA 92192-7010
United States
Phone: +1 (858) 731-1701

Record last updated on 2008-05-15 00:00:00
Record created on 2005-06-21 00:00:00
Record expires on 2011-06-21 00:00:00

Domain servers in listed order:
ns1.rolhost.com 67.205.83.121
ns2.rolhost.com 67.205.83.122

Registration Service Provider: AplusNet(APRO)
[email protected]

Web Hosting, Dedicated Hosting and Web Design from Aplus.Net

Registrar: NAMES4EVER, http://www.names4ever.com

***THE FOLLOWING IS ALI’S WEBSITE REGISTRATION INFORMATION***


Registrant:
Dinar Trade Inc
4450 California Ave #312
Bakersfield, California 93309
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (Complete Web Solutions: domains, hosting, site builders and SSL.)
Domain Name: **********.COM
Created on: 05-May-04
Expires on: 05-May-10
Last Updated on: 29-May-08

Administrative Contact:
Agha, Maria info@**********.com
Dinar Trade Inc
4450 California Ave #312
Bakersfield, California 93309
United States
6614728510 Fax -- 6155260227

Technical Contact:
Agha, Maria info@**********.com
Dinar Trade Inc
4450 California Ave #312
Bakersfield, California 93309
United States
6614728510 Fax -- 6155260227

Domain servers in listed order:
NS51.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS52.DOMAINCONTROL.CO

>>THE MOST TELLING LINK, FOUND @ GOOGLE.COM<<
{Using (Advanced Search) search as described above}

4. Ethos. Canada,Europe,UK,Malaysia,Singapore,Australia,and New ...
My new email for this ethos for 4-E will be rolclub@*************** Thanks and if you
have any questions please dont hesitaite to ask. Digg this Post! ...
www.rolclub.com/.../7292-ethos-canada
-europe-uk-malaysia-singapore-australia-new-zealand-ready-now-17.html - 109k- Cached - Similar pages - Note this

SOME MAY SAY THIS IS A COINCIDENCE AND THERE JUST HAPPENS TO BE TWO NENO'S USING THE SAME STYLE SITE FROM THE SAME SOFTWARE PROVIDER, THEY BOTH ARE THE SITE ADMIN'S AND CURRENCY (DINAR'S/DONGS) IS A MAJOR TOPIC ON BOTH SITES, SURE OK MAYBE

***IF I AM WRONG I WOULD BE VERY PLEASED TO HAVE CLEARED THIS UP HERE ON NNP***

I have now edited and toned down your big letters in your post. I do not want to delete your post, as its your right to ask,
and its my right to take time and properly answer your questions.

But please do not type in huge letters. Thats normally considered rude, and getting a overview of your post becomes harder.
Give me few min to read your post in full and come with my reply.

admin

Dude,

Neno use to be a member and admin here but that is long ago. Move on, the sites are owned by two seperate persons.

I appreciate not being banned, thanks admin...

No offense but, who cares. These forums are a place for getting info on our investment and discussing it. I'm glad they make a profit, they are offering a service, free to me, that I appreciate. If somebody is making buying decisions based on rumors then shame on them. Rule #1 is "Don't invest more than you can afford to lose", #2 is "Don't buy based on rumors".

I'm sure your a nice person and you mean well but questioning an administrator's integrity on his own site is not only rude but a bannable offense in my opinion.

First of all.

Neno used to be our super moderator. He decided to start his own site and moved on, which is perfectly fine with us. I think most will be able to tell you that i and neno are two different people.

I am from Norway (living in poland due to Medical studies) - Neno (US - texas).

Secondly if you noticed all forums of our competitors names and url are replaced with ******* censored words.
Why would it be like that, if i was the one running both these sites?

Secondly. If the forums look similar, then this question should rather be asked Nenos. I have been in the industry longer, and developed a certain style of doing things. If Neno does seem to like my style and use it, i dont mind. But that does not mean in any way we are one and the same.

Even if we were one and the same person which we are not, it would be no reason for me to not have NNP's ads on RC. Rolclub is the 3rd largest forum in its filed, with more then 38000 members from all over the world. Why would i not put NNP's banner ads all over RC? Why would i censor their URL and words?

To come to the next point.

Neno used godaddy to register his domain names, and i used a different registrar.
Using proxy on our domian names so nobody have to call us 03.00am in the morning with all sort of threats.

Once i started with this forum, my family was receiving death threats from many members. Reason for this was simple. Money making forums can sometimes make many people agitated for all sorts of issue's. I had not hidden my domain name registration at that time. I later decided to hide my registration for which i paid a few $ extra so my family didnt have to take this kind of stuff from anyone..

I guess nenos also found this to be a smart idea. What his reasons were to make a private registartion on his domain name, you will have to ask him.

Most major forums will hide their domain registration ID to protect their ID's...
There is nothing wrong with that... Or is it?

Next. If your banned on Nenospl, and not here!! I can understand your frustration but you could also have asked me this in a PM.
As long as you follow our Rules and TOS, you will not be banned on RC. You will always receive 1 warning first...

Have i answered the questions you had to your satisfaction?

Generally i dont have anything against Neno's. But he did pull a stunt on RC before he went from here. I haven't really spoken
with anyone about this. But i can let you know now:.. I was on a vacation. And he was suppose to take care of our dinar section. He was given the full permission to take care of our dinar section and he was one of the best mods a forum can have.

He did tell me on phone that he wanted to start his on forum, and i then gave him tips about how to start a forum successfully..
But most of what he know's today i would say he has learned from himself, or by looking at RC as he was a mod here for a longer period.

The stunt was: When i was on a vacation, he stopped moderating our Dinar section. The place quickly became a battle ground for both the Naysayers and the supporters. He let it go on for a while like that while he setup his own forum. When things totally broke down in our dinar section over a few weeks (which neno spent looking through the moderator panel and note down hundred's of dinar interested person's email so he could contact them once he launch his forum). This is illegal. What he did not know was that i as admin can monitor and check logs of all mods activities: I can check who deleted what thread, and step by step tell you what a mod has been doing for each session he/she is logged inn.

I decided not to go through with any major SUE cases, and Tone it all down and forget about it.
So you can tell i am not to found of neno's, thats why he also is banned on RC...

All he needed to do was to ask me for ads, and i would have given him all the promotion he wanted. But he chose to do this in a
different way.. Still all this belongs to the past (6months / 1 year)

How can one new forum get over 1000 registered members in 1-2 days? Ever though of that. Well he did.
He never came back and explained anything except add in his signature that he does not post here anymore...

So mate. RC and Neno's is not run by the same person.. We are two totally different people..

I arrest my case.

Let me know..

Admin

Admin you left out another reason why you and neno are different:

You are literate and neno is illiterate! :rofl:

The reason I posted this, Neno is telling everyone he is a simple truck driver and has never heard of rolclub.com. I just dont want to see people I care about being mislead by someone who is savvy and has been in the investment game. People @ NNP would look @ this a lot differently if they knew that he was less than honest. If this is to harsh please dont ban me, just edit or remove this post! And now I will do just that Inscrutable...I put it out there that is all I can do MOVING ON>>>>>>

I have added some more info to the post above and updated it.
You can read it again.

admin

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Originally Posted by Dinar Cha Ching

Admin you left out another reason why you and neno are different:

You are literate and neno is illiterate! :rofl:

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LOL..hmm... Lets keep the TOS up guys.. http://www.rolclub.com/rolclub-rules...rules-tos.html

I am looking for more mods and posters.
If some of you would want to help this place be a great and stable place with lots of
good information on dinar, please PM me..

We need more posters. SEVIEW's is doing a very nice job keeping us updated.
I am sure he would also like to see your posts and read them once a while :).

Regards
admin

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Originally Posted by TruthSeeker

The reason I posted this, Neno is telling everyone he is a simple truck driver and has never heard of rolclub.com. I just dont want to see people I care about being mislead by someone who is savvy and has been in the investment game. People @ NNP would look @ this a lot differently if they knew that he was less than honest. If this is to harsh please dont ban me, just edit or remove this post! And now I will do just that Inscrutable...I put it out there that is all I can do MOVING ON>>>>>>

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He never heard of Rolclub? Really?
You really dont have to take my word for it. You can ask any old
dinar member on RC.

This is his profile on Rolclub with a few thousand posts. You can have a look
Rolclub Hyip Forum, Hyip, Hyip Forum, Real Hyip, Hyip Monitor, Hyip Investment, Best Hyip Forum, dinar, dinar forum, iraqi dinar, e-gold, real investment forum, forex, investment programs. - View Profile: neno

I am sure there are more then 1000 people right here in this dinar forum that can come and tell you he know's Rolclub Very very well. LOL. Amazing..

admin

Admin, I really appreciate your honesty and it is my duty to inform my people @ NNP of this. But as I stated before I am done posting any of this on rolclub.............

GO Dinar RV!!!!!!!!

Admin, I appreciate your honesty. This was very helpful, It is my duty to inform the good people of NNP about this. As I said before as far as posting about this matter on rolclub.....I am moving on!!! Thanks again

GO RV

No problem. Just next time you have similar sort of questions, kindly let me know by PM. Secondly a community is made by its members first. Without a community a admin of a forum is nobody. But to ensure you not getting banned we have a TOS. Its in my view just fair to follow a TOS, so all parts remain calm.

You most welcome at Rolclub.

admin

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Originally Posted by Dinar Cha Ching

Admin you left out another reason why you and neno are different:

You are literate and neno is illiterate! :rofl:

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damn it!! you beat me to the punch line...:woohoo:

Thanks Admin, you have definitely answered my questions
Again I appreciate you candidness on this matter

Go RV

Quote:

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Originally Posted by TruthSeeker

Admin, I appreciate your honesty. This was very helpful, It is my duty to inform the good people of NNP about this. As I said before as far as posting about this matter on rolclub.....I am moving on!!! Thanks again

GO RV

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as a member of all forums including nnp-nobody cares. it is not your duty to do anything but mind your own biz. i never rec'd an email from neno re the new forum. i heard about it like most people...diff posters post similar info on all the forums. all forums have a diff personality. nnp started and grew in popularity with sgs's rumors and larry nichols rants. both have been proven wrong on all dinar issues....it did, however, create the mass exodus from this forum to nnp. iam grateful for rc to be up and running. it seems to be the superior forum in light of all of these nuclear attacks on all of the forums. keep up the good work!!

Quote:

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Originally Posted by TruthSeeker

Thanks Admin, you have definitely answered my questions
Again I appreciate you candidness on this matter

Go RV

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No problem mate.. All is fine. All you need to do to make it up to us all again is a few good NEWS posts, and all will be fine. So Seaview dont have to read his posts over and over again:wink: (just kidding)..

ALL is :thumbsup:

Admin

Thanks Admin, your candidness and honesty is refreshing and yes you answered all I neede to know


FYI

Sorry I did not pm you about this, I really wanted to see this info come out publicly. I have a lot of friends over @ NNP that I believe are being mislead. I smelled a rat, so I went searching for the truth. I dont believe that they are being scammed but definitely mislead. NNP seems to go down all the time, but when I contact their techprovider they say their is nothing wrong with the servers. I believe they create situations to raise the hype and in turn sell a lot currency and get investors to buy in to private sections so that they can get the real information and the inside deals. OK

Quote:

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Originally Posted by lglwzrd

as a member of all forums including nnp-nobody cares. it is not your duty to do anything but mind your own biz. i never rec'd an email from neno re the new forum. i heard about it like most people...diff posters post similar info on all the forums. all forums have a diff personality. nnp started and grew in popularity with sgs's rumors and larry nichols rants. both have been proven wrong on all dinar issues....it did, however, create the mass exodus from this forum to nnp. iam grateful for rc to be up and running. it seems to be the superior forum in light of all of these nuclear attacks on all of the forums. keep up the good work!!

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Thanks for great words.. I have 2 people hired to take care of the 12 day long attacks on our forum. We went down like a brick the first 2-3 days. I thought we had a good DDOS protection. I was wrong. I have spent most of my past 12 days online. Yesterday i went to sleep after 40h nonstop monitoring, blocking attacking ips. I felt my eye's were like a brick at that point... DDOs protection is very very costly. It can cost thousands and still
not guarantee you being online.. As a matter of fact i think the DDOS attack finished just like a few h ago after 12 long days.. Perhaps they gave up on us for now. I sure hope so..

admin

Quote:

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Originally Posted by TruthSeeker

The reason I posted this, Neno is telling everyone he is a simple truck driver and has never heard of rolclub.com. I just dont want to see people I care about being mislead by someone who is savvy and has been in the investment game. People @ NNP would look @ this a lot differently if they knew that he was less than honest. If this is to harsh please dont ban me, just edit or remove this post! And now I will do just that Inscrutable...I put it out there that is all I can do MOVING ON>>>>>>

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WHOA!
Maybe you heard this in a dream

[Post edited to tone down the letters, admin]

Quote:

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Originally Posted by TruthSeeker

NNP seems to go down all the time, but when I contact their techprovider they say their is nothing wrong with the servers.

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Servers? I dont think they even have one server yet. They are paying for a shared hosting account (5-10 usd a month). If they were on their own server they would not be suspended by their host like i was told under the DDOs attack, as that attack then takes down all the other sites on the sever where several site's are hosted. Under such situations the host suspends the hosting account of any site that attracts such attention, to protect the other site's on the same sever from going down.

On a server under a DDOS attack you can be null routed by your host, but never suspended. That null route is removed as soon as the attack stops, unless you have a longer attack. If you have DDOS protection you don't get null routed unless
the attack goes over the level of your DDOS protection.

Null routing is : when a host points all your traffic, not to your site, but to "NO WHERE" to simply protect their networks and your host/server.

Rolclub runs on several servers. TG, M M G runs on several servers. = Load balancers..
I am sure NNP can afford a better solution then they have now. Dinar Trader gives them a handsome amount each month for ref.clients to them, and then he also runs ads on his forum.

Admin

ooops my page was hanging so I kept reposting my many thanks to the admin,

As to the comment from lglwzrd

Honesty is very important and I have friends that hang on you know who's nenos every word, so if he is dishonest on one thing, than how can he be trusted with our money. And thats it from me on this subject, I am going to get back to my list of things I and going to do when the when it hits!! GO RV

I was banned from nenos place after my first post

Reason: I answered a poll, when do you think the dinar will rv?

He said my response was to dramatic and banned me.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by arvie

I was banned from nenos place after my first post

Reason: I answered a poll, when do you think the dinar will rv?

He said my response was to dramatic and banned me.

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What did you say next month, instead of next Sunday and freaked him out!:toofunny: Just kidding around!

Quote:

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Originally Posted by arvie

I was banned from nenos place after my first post

Reason: I answered a poll, when do you think the dinar will rv?

He said my response was to dramatic and banned me.

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Banned for being too dramatic? - over their??:toofunny::toofunny:

Guys. the point of this thread was to answer the member that had questions for me.
I do understand that many would like to take part and post their stories about NNP in positive and negative sense.. But i am sorry, i will have to close this thread at this point to not let this go any further...

If anyone has further questions for me, please PM me.
If anyone has further questions about NNP, please go there and ask them.

Let go back to the news section guys and girlz, and put inn a smaller effort, so all can enjoy the read.:cheers:.

Admin