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    Cool Warning from mystery person...

    Not sure who this person is, but the following is a cut and paste from another site:

    Over the last few days I have been following the running commentary under the heading-rumors/predictions/the new Iraq. I have become increasingly concerned over the content of some of the postings. It is apparent that many of your members may not be aware of the potential and damaging consequences of these postings. Several of the postings go beyond speculation and discussion of current news articles and events, which are considered as "open record" or in the public domain. One initiator of these threads, in disseminating information regarding future events, has indicated she has been provided inside knowledge from sources that cannot be disclosed. (Aug 7, 2007, 11:27pm "I am in constant contact with my source", Aug 8, 2007, 5:29pm "My source has been right on all the information I got from them directly, so I tend to believe them", Aug 8, 2007, 9:51am "Yes, I was told last night that Maliki can announce it at any time"). This is indicative that information is being passed that is outside the "open record" or not in the public domain. This is very disturbing, as it would appear to be a security leak or breach of security.


    The revaluation of the Iraq Dinar represents a tremendous investment opportunity for not only the citizens of Iraq but also for foreign investors. Unfortunately this is a double-edged sword as it also represents the same investment opportunity for terrorist groups. It is a well-known fact that the Internet has provided unprecedented opportunities for terrorists who have become very adept in using the Internet to their advantage. Forums of this type have no safeguards regarding individuals who can view and post to the forum. It should not be a surprise to anyone that law enforcement agencies are also probably monitoring these forums. Any activity that could be considered as a security breach could and probably would be subject to investigation. It would include everyone that participated as well as associates and family members. On Aug 4, 2007, the Senate voted to expand the government’s surveillance ability without requiring a warrant. This would include Internet activity, cell phone use etc. There is an old saying from WW 11 "loose lips sink ships". I believe this is even more relevant today.


    Individuals who have purchased Dinars are almost certainly on the radar. As an example, if you purchased from Chase Bank you were required to provide identification. It is my personal opinion that monetary gains, in the event the Dinar does RV, will certainly be monitored to ensure individuals within the U.S. are not funneling the funds into terrorist coffers. On July 17, 2007, President Bush signed an executive order to block the property of persons who threaten stabilization in Iraq through financial, material, logistical or technical support. This is not limited to individuals oversees.


    I do not know the individual that was the initiator of two of these threads, nor do I know any of the administrators. I don’t know if this individual’s information is credible or fictitious. It is really irrelevant as it is being represented as factual. Unfortunately justifying one actions based on altruistic values is reprehensible and irresponsible. In this case considering the topic it could also have adverse legal consequences.


    I am aware of your censorship policy. It is not my intent to start a new round of antagonism. This is simply to raise a red flag regarding the contents of a few of the postings.


    Seems to be coming from a knowledgeable person and presented in a very serious manner (not to mention perfect English).

    My prediction is we will hear very little in the lines of speculation or "Intel Sharing" if the people this person is talking about truley have connections as they say they do.

    Because if they do have these connections and they are leaking crucial intel on an open forum, they will be found. One is easy to find, the others may require some prying....

    Interesting none the less.

    Thank you.
    Last edited by Hardwood; 10-08-2007 at 04:19 AM.
    Do unto others....you know the rest...

    Here I am getting my Dinar News Fix waiting for that "Bold Adjustment"

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    Oh my gosh!!!!!!!!!

    THE SKY IS FALLING

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    Hi Hardwood...

    It seems serious, but again if there was really anybody with Miliki whispers, would they really be in on the forum... wouldn't they be buying left and right... rumors here and probably there are exagerated theories from interpretations... and if you stare too long at this stuff you start to go a little nutz ... the articles from Iraq are themselves schizophrenic at best .. how does one communicate among religious factions that cannot even read... listen to Joe Rogan's new comedy CD and he bringsa valid point.... nowhere in the quran does it say that if you kill during a jihad you get the 76 virgins and crystal clear dates... it's not written anywhere by any prophet.. but people are willing to kill...

    the letter is almost too perfect, and if it really was researched and enforced to some truly terrorist level, the ISP connection would be traced and even the owners of thsisite would be convinced to give info... so, great letter... but there is nothing illegal about what we are doing, unless, when we turn in our dinar (one day soon) we perform some real tax evasion.... BUT if terrorists really wantto be terrorists they will with funding or not, most guerilla attacks and revolutions throughout history were fought by belivers not necessarily bankbooks...

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    Well i'm pretty sure the majority if not all posters in the forums arent funneling funds for terrorists......so im not worried personally anyways, agencies, and even terrorists reading the forums, possible.....but terrorists learning info from forums i think is a little over the top, i'm pretty sure they already have their own resources for finding sensitive intel, they have done it for years, way before the internet.
    it can be said for all investors from the Arabs and foreigners, you enter now for it will be a golden opportunity for you.

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    If the terrorists are getting any kind of "actionable intelligence" from the rumor forums they are one up on me. I read them all and have absolutely NO idea what's gonna happen.

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    There are actually multiple solid reasons a Huge Overnight Re-Val can't happen. The terrorist angle is only one of many. The myth is that when the Re-Val of 1:1 happens, everyone in Iraq will be "happy and rich" thus put down their arms and live in peace and harmony. Nothing could be further from the truth and people who believe this myth are in complete disconnect from the realities on the ground. What it would do is give BILLIONS of USD (which they can achieve through channels) to life long facists. Sorry, but rich facists are far more deadly than struggling facists. These people are completely brainwashed into an ideology and will not change. They must be defeated and the only way is kill or capture.

    I realize that these types of threads are rapidly closed, so I'd like to add one more thought about those who continue to say they have "inside" contacts. If a person really believes such and is wrong and admits it, that is one thing. Speculation, guessing, calculating, theorizing, that is another thing all of us do. But if someone continues to claim contact and continues to say "done deal" over and over, that's an animal of a complete different skin. Especially if the predictions continue to escalate in value to vastly impossible levels. This "joke" has long gone past the point of being laughed off as funny. A $6, $9, or $12 Re-Val would give Iraq enough monetary value to buy every item on Earth. It's exponentially bigger than 1:1 or $3 predictions (which I still believe would include a Zero Lop). If it's simply a fantasy, fine, state it as such, but there are desperate people that actually believe this jibberish and they could be in for a huge fall. This will be my final statement about these type of people. I had to get it off my chest because my distaste for them is reaching a very high level. Thanks for listening.
    Munny Model IQD Value Projections
    Range 1345 IQD/1 USD to 1 IQD/.27 USD:

    1345 Target ACHIEVED!!!
    1260 Target ACHIEVED!!!
    1100 IQD/1 USD by Jan. 5, 2008
    810 IQD/1 USD by July 5, 2008
    500 IQD/1 USD by Jan. 3, 2009
    300 IQD/1 USD by Apr. 18, 09
    1 IQD/.01 USD by Aug. 8, 09
    1 IQD/.27 USD by Sept. 12, 09

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    Quote Originally Posted by MunnyBaggs View Post
    There are actually multiple solid reasons a Huge Overnight Re-Val can't happen. The terrorist angle is only one of many. The myth is that when the Re-Val of 1:1 happens, everyone in Iraq will be "happy and rich" thus put down their arms and live in peace and harmony. Nothing could be further from the truth and people who believe this myth are in complete disconnect from the realities on the ground. What it would do is give BILLIONS of USD (which they can achieve through channels) to life long facists. Sorry, but rich facists are far more deadly than struggling facists. These people are completely brainwashed into an ideology and will not change. They must be defeated and the only way is kill or capture.

    I realize that these types of threads are rapidly closed, so I'd like to add one more thought about those who continue to say they have "inside" contacts. If a person really believes such and is wrong and admits it, that is one thing. Speculation, guessing, calculating, theorizing, that is another thing all of us do. But if someone continues to claim contact and continues to say "done deal" over and over, that's an animal of a complete different skin. Especially if the predictions continue to escalate in value to vastly impossible levels. This "joke" has long gone past the point of being laughed off as funny. A $6, $9, or $12 Re-Val would give Iraq enough monetary value to buy every item on Earth. It's exponentially bigger than 1:1 or $3 predictions (which I still believe would include a Zero Lop). If it's simply a fantasy, fine, state it as such, but there are desperate people that actually believe this jibberish and they could be in for a huge fall. This will be my final statement about these type of people. I had to get it off my chest because my distaste for them is reaching a very high level. Thanks for listening.
    Thank You...kind sir... this fantasy has really come to an end for reasons you have said. To believe in the pump and dump aspect of things is only fooling yourself. Slow grow is the only economical way we will EVER!!!! see a nice profit. To believe the nonsense from such people is totaly *****ic you would have to be a complete retard to believe anything that comes from folks saying rates at $7 or even a $1 a buck its not possible no way. I am totaly covinced that it will have to be a slow grow other wise the economy of iraq can't handle such a swing and if i does you will see a new currency with a lop. If anything is a smoke screen its the amount being taken of circulation at the CBI auctions and how much dinar was printed. GEE I wonder how much gets put back into circulation to pay those lazy poloticians and govt workers and army...with a currency so low you can bet hunderds of millions if not billions are given right back. I dont give a rats ass about the said oil in the ground and the gold that was said "to be found and returned to iraq" to back an RV. The fact is the huge change in value overnight is just not economicly possible. It would be such a shock to the economy of iraq. Slow grow is the only way we will see our riches and wildest dreams come true and it wont happen rapidly either it would be several years of slow grow to even come close to a $1. Im no economist but that is only the only logical way of thinking. You can choose to think what you want. The person who keeps pumping with crazy acusations as the person stated in the first post....I hope that person gets sued who ever it maybe and gets run into the ground or gets thown in jail for leeking false acusations and or sensitve info for his or her personal gain. Tank
    Use common sense...the world may just start look different....its always fun to dream...and you never know they may come true ONE DAY

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    They could certainly use the premise of fraud to investigate characters on that new forum. I have seen this happen before and it can get very ugly. Pumping can only go so far before you violate federal laws. Seen people lose jobs just from the loss of sleep once they realized they were under surveillance. You don't want the feds knocking on your door. They don't need much these days in the name of terror. Personally, its best to keep your IP off that forum.

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    There are some funny things about the copied article. First, this can't becoming from any official. They don't warn. Secondly look how they typed WWII. WW11? The referenced quote seems to be from posting by a certain female that lives in Alaska and we have all known here. I maybe wrong but I think this an attempt to give an excuse to not have to reply to a certain rumor she has started elsewhere. Just a little too convenient.

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    As for that message - it doesn't really say anything - probably admin/mod finally realised that all the rubbish being posted was turning the forum into a laughing stock everywhere else. Too late to claw back any integrity now - all credibility was gone by about the 2nd day.

    Or.....................
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