Wed. June 29 is rebroadcast of David Icke taking on Illuminatii on Coast to Coast AM!

HI,

David Icke is exposing the Illuminatii on a reBroadcast on Coast to Coast Am for all you late night listeners.

You can also listen live on the web site or look up your local AM station that airs Coast To Coast AM with Greorge Noorey and Art Bell on the weekends.
http://www.coasttocoastam.com

If you don't know who David Icke is or have never heard him speak, treat yourself and listen. He is so strong and clear, just like Alex Jones. When people know the truth, their words are strong and determined. There is no reason to be defensive or deceitful.

Well, I am going to be up all night Wed. Locally for me it starts at 1AM and the next day there is a prefeed starting at 11 PM to air the previous night's show so if you missed it, you have another chance.

I hope you all join in too.

Margaux Gold

I'll be listening for sure.

Isn't he the "lizard people" guy?

I'm happy to acknowledge the possibility of the Illuminati, but lizard people is going a bit too far.

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Originally Posted by nej

Isn't he the "lizard people" guy?

I'm happy to acknowledge the possibility of the Illuminati, but lizard people is going a bit too far.

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Exactly nej

The guy believes that there are people here who can and do actually turn into alien lizards, literally. The guy is WAY OUT there...... I will pass he too fruity for me....lol

i know from personal experience that Icke tells the truth.

human eyes and minds are sometimes genetically modified so as not to be able to see "above" the 3rd dimension.

the reptillians used to control from the 4th dimension, which youd have to, usually, use your "3rd eye" to see.

therefore, those who could see the truth could easily be labelled as schizophrenic, mediciated, and left with no-one believing them, as the forces of darkness continued to feed on everyone's souls, that was their business.x

i had the priveledge to be involved as a child in some of the ir rituals, and therefore gain 1st hand experince of this so called "evil", since my parents were members of a secret society, the Masons, an illuminati front; i think almost since Egypt. Read Icke for the full-on details. i only share what i have seen and done.

in rituals, they would shapeshift into the 3rd dimension, out of human bodies, sometimes my parents and schoolteachers bodies, to this nasty messy other energy, looking very reptillian, and basically, with a rape and pillage mentality.

very low intentional vibration, as you can see by all the wars theyve started and trees theyve needlessly cut down, and childrens innocence theyve shattered, since their motives are to devour all life, not nurture it.

because they have lost their connection to the all-that-is or "god" they see this as they only way they can survive, to live off the life force of others. poor bastards! but anyway, we must not let them destroy us, just because they have forgotten god's love :)

so, now, this is our planet. we must club together now they are outlawed, to stop the wars, and heal the environment. its not too late to create the heaven on earth we all came here for..... clean water, happy children, clear energy, people freely speaking and doing and being their divine purpose, all that good stuff..... dancing, singing, connected with eachother and nature. the age of seperation and fear is over!!!

time to celebrate.

look around you, you will see the Light everywhere in every moment shining out of every man woman child and tree and animal, gaining strength in every moment.... truly blessed we are.

and if you DO have a developed 3rd eye, you can see the Matrix network that used to drain all the innocents, its gone. And everyone has got their souls back. you can see the light in their eyes. people that used to be all ego, are becoming human again, and very fast!!!

if you do by any chance ever see one of these poor hungry reptillians, and believe me, if their intention is not loving, they are no longer allowe to inhabit this planet, in any shape or form, or indeed anything else with "evil" or anti-life intentions, command it in the name of universal law, of the 5th dimension and above of unconditional love and light, to begone from this glorious earth, our heaven and birthright.

be compassionate, but do set this all important boundary, its our planetary security measure....

viva the golden age!!!

the time is now.

G

Wow Garthstar!

I bow to your wisdom! The truth must be defended and enforced by those of us that can "see" these beings are evil and satanic. Only Light can Destroy Darkness.

This is exactly what Alex Jones was doing when he held that megaphone and yelled at the Bildenberg Convention in Ottowa, Canada. Begone, your time is up, the game is over, the masses know what you are doing and have been doing. These words frighten them because they are in a tiny-tiny-tiny minority of this Earth.

They just happen to contol all the money in the world--so they got us by the balls.

Now we have to remove their hands from our gonads.

I never saw anyone shape-shift before my eyes. That had to be the most terrifying experience!

Here's my closest encounter of the third kind:

I did encounter 2 MIB ( Men In Black) at a 7-11 in St Petersburg, FL in 1993. Knowlege is a double-edged sword. Had I not been educated about what the MIB are, I would have walked right by them like everyone else in that 7-11. They were buying gas for their brand new Black Lincloln Continental with the words "Acme Realty" and a fake address and phone painted on magnetic signs on the front doors. Hey, Looney Tunes used 'Acme' on all the Whiley Coyote businesses used to catch the "meep-meep" RoadRunnder. No serious business uses "Acme" as a name.

The education I had was excellent, and recent to that time. I was told that MIB prey on the emotion of FEAR. They expect fear of their victims. And they are to be feared. They do not understand JOY and LAUGHTER. In fact, it paralysis them, because they cannot deal with this at all. They do not know what to do!

So, there I was at 7-11 in a long line of people. I was buying a money order to pay a bill and was going to drop it into the mailbox at the Post Office down the street. It was dark outside and I glanced at the reflection of the long line behind me, like at least 10 behind me and 5 ahead of me. Only one cashier was working, so it was moving slow. What I saw immediately was at the end of the line, were 2 completely duplicate men--twins--or clones. They were big and tall Nordic-looking men with a modern/hip short hairdo with a spikey style by using a spiking mouse or gel. Everything was the same: They had exact hair-do's, exact shirt, exact pants, exact shoes, exact mannerism! The clothes were so new, that they had the creases from the packaging still on them! They wore expensive black sport t-shirts, black sport pants, black athletic shoes. Their skin and hair was very white--silvery. Oh and of course, they had matching black and reflective lens sunglasses! Ta-da!!!

I then glanced out at the gas pumps and saw their car. A perfect example of the MIB's modus operandi. They often use fake Real Estate business names or law firms on new black Lincolns or Caddies. There they were! MIB

And there I was---my first reaction was shock. Then I noticed in the reflection in the big front window reflection of the 2 clone 6'5" blonde guys-in-black! They started to get very agitated and began to move back & forth to look at ME!

Gulp....

I remembered that the only weapon I had was Joy and Laughter. They knew I recognised them. So did I and I was on foot. They expected me to freak-out and run like the wind.

So, I did the most insane thing I have ever done in my life--because I had to!

I turned around and pointed at them directly, and yelled very loudly," I know what You guys are!" And I laughted and laughted and laughted while pointing at these 2 giant guys.

The other people in line behind me had total blank looks on their faces because I was an insane-acting person. Can't say that I blame them. They did not have the MIB directing their aggressive energy at them, did they. So who cares what they thought! I did not want to be on the front page of the St Pete Times as a curious police report or homicide.

The 2 MIB froze also. Stood like statues. Their faces and body reactions was devoid of any emotion---cold-blooded.

I turned around to get in positon to be the next in line to pay for the Money Order, kept on Laughting and Laughting all the way out the door, I pointed at their stupid car Laughting, and down the street to the PO and went home Laughting, walking like someone who had no fear. In fact, I was singing out loud all the way home--with joy.

It worked. They did not follow me or harass me at all. I did not even fear that it would ever happen again, and it did not. And if I ever see MIB's or these shape-shifting reptillians in my personal space, I will do the same thing.

I went home and told my son what just took place. He is the one who taught me about MIB from some sources he researched on what was then called BBS's--pre-ISP and Internet days--remember? Bulletin Boards that you dialed into on a phone line with some wimpy dial-up modum. Back then, it was hot!

Up to 3 years ago I never told anyone else. Mainly because I never knew anyone else personally who even knew about these MIB. I began to hear about more things in 1996 when I began to listen to the Art Bell radio show. David Icke was one of those guests. There are a lot more. Icke said that Princess Dianna confessed to a confidant that the Queen and her family are lizzards. She must have seen them shape-shift too. She referred to them as lizzards.
She is not from that bloodline. She was of the Spensers who are true Royal bloodline. They needed her blood and she even recognized that she was just a breeding mare to that family.

For those of you reading this and reading Garthstar's personal story, when these bizzare encounters happen, they are real because we experienced it. For myself, it does not matter if someone does not believe me or thinks I am nuts or I imagined it. I do not drink alcohol at all or do street drugs. I am very clear about exactly what happens to me and this is how I like and choose to live. Please throw your stones and mudpies elsewhere!

It happened and I took control of their energy, not the other way around. MIB do not like people noticing them. They work very hard at looking like they 'fit in' so they are invisible.

They were not there to "get me." I was not paranoid and am not now. I just happend to be there at 7-11 at the same time when they were, maybe on the way to straighten someone else out --by force. MIB are dangerous. I caught them by accident, and they were really worked-up about it. Those 2 guys were huge BIG MEN and I am a little lady; clearly I was an easy victim for them and normally someone that looks like me, would have crapped in their drawers--a natural physical reaction to both fear and fright.

People who encouter UFO's and alien beings often never talk about it out of the fear and shame that they will get from talking and not being validated.

I knew that at this time of the MIB encounter, and I still did not care. I did not show them any fear, and I am not ashamed.

I have seen UFO's since I was young and I was not alone every time it happened to me. I never was taken on their illegal kidnappings because I was told by reliable sources that there are alien crafts that are either working for the Intergalactic Brotherhood of Man, or Against it. You must confront them by demanding that they identify their allgence to the Intergalactic Brotherhood of Man--or BE GONE! They are all telepathic and they all know what this means, even if you don't really understand.

They do know, and they know that they are doing illegal things by taking people against their will to test them, take body parts, inpregnate women and then later remove that fetus, and even commit murder on the kidnapped victims.

The point is, when you catch them and confront them, they do not want anything to do with you! They go away and look for a better match for their evil-doings.

Fear is what they know too, just like the MIB.

For those of you who do not believe that the sky is full of alien crafts...you do not look at the sky very much, do you?

Fine, don't believe it. I don't care. When you do decide to pay attention to the sky, the stars, the planets, their placement in the heavens, then you will have your own experience some day.

Nothing that we humans fly can make sudden stops in the air and maintain holding patterns for hours, take abrupt multiple right-angle turns in flight, bolt into sudden exponential takeoff from a stopped postion either at landing or while in the sky and suddenly disapper, make no noise, and leave no fuel vapor trailings.

When you see this happen while looking at what you thought was a Star or Planet, you just saw a UFO!

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For Garthstar and anyone else still interested in what I am saying....

Recently I was turned onto Michael Tsarion and he is a repeat guest on Coast To Coast Am. They had a rebroadcast of his appearance in 2005 in early May and I was left breathless. If you think David Icke is shocking, Micael Tsarion will make him look rather tame.

Michael Tsarion is in agreement with Icke and a good deal of Zacharia Sitchen, only he goes farther. Tsarion stated on radio that the celtic ancient texts that he studies are precise and accurate, more so than the Sumarian cuniform texts that Sitchen had decoded. They lay out the exact location of Atlantis and he said that Atlantis was only a small part of this huge continent, which encompasses Iceland and Greenland north and all the Brittish Islands. He said Atlantis is like a State or country on that continent, and the people there were very agressive and warring. People that were more Peace-Loving and Humanitarian went to Lemurgia or the Continent of MU in the Pacific Ocean. Technology was advanced and the advanced technology was their demise--the continent sunk. I do not know what happened to Lemurgia, because that sunk too.

I never heard that before! He had me gripped to his words from then on.

He is articulate as a speaker and from what I read on his web site so far, a scholar and artistic as a crafter of words.

I copied the below clips to show what I mean--I am not so articulate as he is.
I have not downloaded his book, " ATLANTIS, ALIEN VISITATION & GENETIC MANIPULATION " yet. I will, as it is considerably less expensive than on Amazon.com.

What I did come away with again, is that truth conquers fear. What I allowed myself to do is listen without judgement once again and consider that perhaps we all have been lied to all of our current lives, and since recorded history. After all, why was it so important to burn down the Library of Alexandria, Egypt? To hide the Truth? I have read a lot of things about the origins of man, and Michael Tsarion leads us to consider that Ireland was the origin as the Egyptions knew, and he lays out his evidence for us to explore.

It is a terrible shock to be asked to consider that what we think we know could be so different and find that it could just be the truth. I have been there too. Some of this is a struggle for me now.


If you dare, continue......



THE IRISH ORIGINS OF CIVILIZATION:
http://www.taroscopes.com/astro-theo...theology2.html

here is a little clip that I copied.....

"The earliest farming sites in northern Europe are to be found in Ireland, occurring at approximately the same time as the cultivation of crops in the Mesopotamian River valley in the Near East" - Arthur Kemp (March of the Titans)

No, we are not to look to the West. We are told to look only to the East and to the period of 7 to 11,000 years ago for our answers. Any other kind of study or research is considered meaningless, useless, and even taboo. The vast majority of scholars, including most of the world's well-meaning revisionists, habitually look to the Middle-East and to the official dates, when composing their various intriguing theories. But what if culture and civilization did not originate in the Middle-East, but in the West? What happens if the origins of all that we know, see, and read about, when it comes to religion, technology, culture and symbolism, etc., began in Ireland by way of the lost continents of old [Atlantis]. What if the high civilization of Egypt did not originate in Egypt but from further west, in the place known to Egyptians as the "sacred land of the setting sun?"




ATLANTIS, ALIEN VISITATION & GENETIC MANIPULATION, author Michael Tsarion

eBook download here:
http://www.atlantisbook.com/

http://www.michaeltsarion.com/

"The words of the blessing of Enoch, wherewith he blessed the elect and righteous, who will be living in the day of tribulation, when all the wicked and godless are to be removed. And he took up his parable and said - Enoch a righteous man, whose eyes were opened by God, saw the vision of the Holy One in the heavens, which the angels showed me, and from them I heard everything, and from them I understood as I saw, but not for this generation, but for a remote one which is for to come" - The Book of Enoch (170 B. C.)

Summary of Contents

Who were the Atlanteans? Where they tutors or tyrants?
How did the phenomena of evil come into the world and the consciousness of humans?
Who, or what, are the "Fallen Angels?"
Is Homo Sapiens a hybrid created by beings from another planet?
Was the science of genetics known in ancient times?
Are you "Homo Sapiens" or "Homo Atlantis?"
What is the difference between Atlantis and Lemuria?
Are we being told the truth about our origins and destiny?
What do the terms "Immaculate Conception," "Forbidden Fruit," and "Tree of Life" refer to?
Why do some modern scientists believe that the so-called "Ice-Age" never happened?
Did Eve really cause the fall of man?
Why have women and indigenous races been slaughtered and suppressed through the ages?
Who built the great cyclopean megaliths, and why?
Who really governs from behind the thrones of government and religion?
Are the US presidents blood-related to the ancient royals and to the prehistoric Annunaki?
Why has our technological expertise outreached our psychological and spiritual development?
\What do the terms "atomic" and "nuclear" war really mean?
Who, or what, are the "Reptilians." Do they really come from outer space?
Is the "New World Order" really something new?
What is the purpose of the many "black-budget" operations and projects, like HAARP?
Why are US troops on new "Crusades" in the Middle East?
Is 2012 really the end of time, as the Maya predicted?


Preface of Book

During the next ten years the human race is destined to finally discover the facts about its true origins and destiny. As part of this discovery we have to address the overwhelmingly important question of how the phenomena of evil came into the world and into the consciousness of the Earth's human inhabitants. This is a question which should be on the mind of every living man and woman. It has been with us for millennia and it will be with the children of the future if we do not come upon the answer now. We have left the question of evil in the hands of theologians and scientists for too long. This was surely a mistake for, as the casualty statistics clearly testify, the institutions of religion and science have been the worst purveyors of evil that this planet has ever had to endure. After centuries of prevarication and criminality we can no longer afford to look to these edifices to answer the all-important conundrum of evil.

But if we turn from religion and science, in this regard, does it mean that we are left in a void? Is there, perhaps, another answer to how the phenomenon of evil came into being? I believe that the answer lies in the ancient records of our forefathers and in the myths and legends of the pre- and post-diluvian epochs, that speak of the visitation of the "gods" or "angels." Several key researchers have stated that these beings were actually extra-terrestrial entities. I will address who they were, why they came here and show that after their arrival they established their main headquarters at what we now call Atlantis and from there they instigated a hybridization program lasting centuries. Their genetic interference of the Earth Races resulted in several hybrid creatures, one of whom I will refer to as "Homo Atlantis." Each and every living "Adamic" human, of the last 10 millennia or more, is descended from this exceptional being. Every one of us has both "human" and "alien" DNA and this is exactly what we have been told in all the world's sundry myths, from the Celtic and Arthurian legends to the Ramayana and Mahabharata. It is also implied by recent scientific findings into the geological record and the biology and genetics of humans, findings which are being sequestered by those with a vested interest in maintaining the present status quo. Its greatest proof, one can argue, lies in the mysteriously destructive behavior that we, modern humans, have adopted toward our own home planet, the animal kingdom and the indigenous peoples who have lived in relative harmony with the planet.

In my work I intend to show that the descendants of these ancient visitors are still in custodianship of the planet Earth. I will demonstrate that their agendas are not commensurate with the present or future best interests of "Adamic" mankind. Due to the surge in technological advancement our once beauteous planet is now on the brink of ecocide while its political and economic underclasses are subject to a very real New World Order. It has been said that there is no excuse for ignorance of the law. However, it is also a truism that ignorance of the law-makers is also no excuse. The end-game of the visiting alien race and their descendants is being played out in the present "Silicon Age." It swiftly and relentlessly advances while most of us, preoccupied with our domestic and professional roles, have little time or energy to speculate how the multifarious phenomena of our world came into being. Adroit manipulation from those within the echelons of power make quite certain that our attention is rarely focused on the law-makers and those in control of the economy, military, media and technology of the world.

In this book my intention is to draw the attention of the ordinary person to the reasons why he lives in the disempowered existential state he does and that while confined to circumscribed, socially-vetted roles, he and his fellows will have little ability and less resource to prevent the evil that is evidence everywhere, especially in the so-called "corridors of power." I explain why it is that in the back of every mind is the memory of a time when life was harmonious and reverent, when there was no war and little in the way of want, subjugation or class division. I explain something of the fate of women and why it is that they have suffered the incredible atrocities they have through the post-diluvian ages. I show that they continue to be collectively punished for a certain "crime" they committed on this planet approximately 13,000 years ago. I make mention of the significant role that women are to play in the times ahead once they take back the power that was theirs in the days of old.

In the Epilogue I continue to detail the end-game which is being played out as you read. The ancient Mayan Calendar stipulated the date 2012 as the end of time. It may indeed be the end of the world as we know it. The way things are going, there seems good reason for regarding ourselves on this planet to be well passed the "Eleventh Hour." In fact, we are at a "Defcon One" situation and subconsciously, everyone knows it.

This book, which first appeared as a short essay, was not written in, or for, levity and is not a work of fiction. It is based on over three decades of research and was composed in the utmost seriousness. It demands a certain austere attention, where personal prejudices and partisan conditionings are temporarily, if not permanently, bracketed. I urgently implore even the most inveterate skeptic to suspend incredulity and contemplate the sublime consequences to himself, his fellows and to the Earth upon which he lives, if the question of evil could once and for all be answered and its worst effects assuaged quickly and without further loss of life or welfare. However, being well aware of the state of decay in this age of entertainment and chronic narcissism, I leave to those who cannot suspend their mental and behavioral conditioning the following quote, while dedicating this book to those who now understand, or in the near future will come to understand, that before law, country, money, pleasure, love or even god, our supernal right and need has always been and remains - Freedom!

What David Icke speaks of , in term of repitelian life forms, takes an intergalaxtic or possibly a universal frame of mind, to comprehend the dynamic results of "universal history".

In other words there are those "things'' out there in the greater universe, whose ability, traditions, scope and motivations far exceed the upper limits of human capability and even our rational understanding. It's the history of the universe and how that history is written which tilts the difference from what we consider "normal" and what we think of as loony. But if for a moment you can set aside your trendency to rationalize all things in terms of our neatly packaged labelling of everything, where the existence of the "thing'' defines what's real and therefore what's reality, then it might be possible to see the universe as it is and not as you think it should be.

What is being played out on this intergalaxy level, is the oldest story of them all. And in fact it's the source of all stories. What David Icke is talking about is the balancing or struggle, between those lifeforms which use the forces of love and creation for their universal domain and those lifeforms which uses the forces of hate and destruction for their universal domain. At the core of this balancing is the innate differences between mammals and reptiles. But reptiles as different from the common garner snake, as we are from the field mouse.

Have no doubt about it, that this is a very serious agenda on the part of the repetilians. They've been at it for a much greater time then we have, (how long ago did the dinosaurs rule as the dominate lifeform on this planet?, and for how long?), compared with them we are relative new comers. Yet, as the current dominate lifeform, we still haven't even clearly comprehended who we are or why we're here, let alone come to the plate as a real galaxtic players. But the reptilians know who they are. They also know from previous experience in other galaxies, that the latent "love and creation" potential that mammals possess, ultimately will can surpass the hatred that reptilians possess. Love always create, while hate always destorys. They thrive on hate, and must have it. Challenged by this, basically, it is their aim to "head us off at the pass" before we, as a planetary entity, realize our place in the universe, and develop our love potental. By distorting our nature through inter-dimensional manipulation, (don't ask me how it works), they hope to render us impotent. Their goal is that their purposeful hate will dominate over our undeveloped love.

Our tendency for revenge, greed, fear, anger and self-destruction by war, is neither a divinely rendered attribute (we were creatred in God's image) or a mechanism of maximizing or survivability through the evolutionary possesses (to survive is smart). We had to learn to be bad, and that's what they counted on. All evil constantly needs a source of pain to sustain itself, but must always have other sources to move onto, because pain cannot sustain itself, as it ultimately destroys everything including it source. Through their manipulation of our undeveoped nature, we can neatly fufill the role of fodder for thier evil's growth.

Like I said, it's the oldest story told. The struggle between good and evil. The balance between love and hate played out on the universal level by opposing lifeforms with differing natures. One which plays it seriously and the other which doesn't even realize it's in the game.

Consider David Icke a loony if that's the only way you can rationalize what he says and continue to feel "safe" as the dominate lifeform of the universe, but realize there are those entities on the galaxtic stage that don't need your approval or validation as a means to reach their ends.

Hmm, not sure I really like our Queen referred to as one of these lizard people.

And at least learn to spell "lizard" and "Spencer"!

Still think you're a couple of fruits though... can't buy it, sorry.

Nej,

Nitpicking and calling me a fruit is an insult. Grow up.

You get no respect from me.

If you can't say something nice, just keep it to yourself.

And I refuse to stoop to your level of name calling.

Margaux Gold

Oh come on, that isn't name calling! I didn't swear or anything! Calling you a fruit-cake is not even offensive, especially when you are talking (on a predominantly investment-based forum) about people who change shape and become lizards who secretly rule the world. You are making yourself a bit of an easy target... If you believe it then fine, you absolutely have the right to express your opinion. And I have the right to express mine in return. It's called a debate. If you are offended by what I said you need to raise your filters a little!

By the way, British people are very patriotic, and we do not like our monarch being called a member of some secret lizard people society. I think I do have a right to be angered slightly by your comments, however I have been quite restrained. You can say what you like about Blair though!

I just can't see how anyone can believe all this. Please don't accuse me of "having my eyes shut" or whatnot, I'm happy to acknowledge the possibility of the existance of the Illuminati, just not the lizard thing.

Ok a lil bizarre! But the ancient Egyptians (and other Africans peoples [Dogons of Mali who claim ancient Egyptian ancestry]), Aztecs, Hindus, Celts, Mayans, Chinese even Medieval Europeans have Dragons, reptiles, gargoyles all mentioned throughout their literature. Archeologists have found Dino men in Aalborg Denmark and other places and they evolved from intelligent species of Dinosaurs such as the Hysilophodon, Dimetrodon, and T-Rex. The herbivores more agreeable and plant eating and the carnivores a bit disagreeable but we always need balancement.

If you look at a baby in the 1st gestational period it looks like a tadpole (reptile or reptilian again) How is that for gene manipulation? Also spread your fingers and walaa what do we have? Spread webbies like the a beaver and platypus? Don't put lotion on for a day or two ashy and scaly like fish, again our link to the sea where the great whales and other reptilian species live. So no, the man David Icke and Mr. Tsarion are enlightening folks.

As for the royal family, I've never seen them shapeshift, but anyone with all that power and glory behind them much have secrets they don't want out. They were described by Diana, Princess of Wales as cold, aloof and uncaring - all characteristics of reptilians or the R factor in the blood. They way they handled or should say mishandled her and her death until the people forced them to behave themselves and cowtow there would have been a real revolution.

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Originally Posted by nej

Oh come on, that isn't name calling! I didn't swear or anything! Calling you a fruit-cake is not even offensive, especially when you are talking (on a predominantly investment-based forum) about people who change shape and become lizards who secretly rule the world. You are making yourself a bit of an easy target... If you believe it then fine, you absolutely have the right to express your opinion. And I have the right to express mine in return. It's called a debate. If you are offended by what I said you need to raise your filters a little!

By the way, British people are very patriotic, and we do not like our monarch being called a member of some secret lizard people society. I think I do have a right to be angered slightly by your comments, however I have been quite restrained. You can say what you like about Blair though!

I just can't see how anyone can believe all this. Please don't accuse me of "having my eyes shut" or whatnot, I'm happy to acknowledge the possibility of the existance of the Illuminati, just not the lizard thing.

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I have just learned your Monarch came from the Hanover Family(German). Is it true?

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