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    By Lynn Stuter

    February 21, 2006



    I started out my writing début on NewsWithViews.com with a piece by this same title. While that piece was about whom children really belong to, parents or the state, this one is about something entirely different.

    Following my pieces on President George W Bush, his honesty, integrity and ethics, or the lack thereof, I received several e-mails about weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) in Iraq, that they did and do exist, and were sent to Syria prior to the invasion of Iraq by Bush ostensibly to depose Saddam Hussein.

    While I do remember some threat being made, after WMDs weren’t located in Iraq, toward Syria by Bush, nothing along the lines of confirmation that Iraq’s WMDs are, in fact, in Syria, was forthcoming.

    Along these same lines, we hear constantly how United States satellites, flying high overhead in the atmosphere, can read a newspaper being held by a human on the ground. With that in mind, it is obvious those same satellites can also locate WMDs on the ground and in transit, being moved out of Iraq which would have had to have been done by people Hussein trusted not to steal them or sell them to the highest bidder. Given the paranoid tendencies of any tyrant, this would have narrowed the field of candidates trusted to move, secure and guard those WMDs significantly.

    As for being in Syria, that is questionable, especially given the tendency of any tyrant to not be long on trust, even when dealing with another tyrant. And thinking logically, any animal backed into a corner — as Hussein was, knowing that if invaded he didn’t stand a chance of prevailing, wouldn’t have moved those WMDs to Syria, he would have lined them up in the path of the invaders. Given the ability of insurgents to insert improvised explosive devices (IEDs) in the vicinity of American forces now, such was obviously not an impossible feat then.

    Now on to the handling and storage of WMDs. Most Americans are not aware of weapons storage facilities existing right here in these United States. These areas are totally enclosed by fences topped with concertina wire, sitting out in the middle of nowhere, heavily guarded. These weapons storage facilities contain acres of mounds, one after the other, known as bunkers. The construct of these bunkers isn’t advertised but one can surmise they are concrete covered by dirt. Inside those bunkers are found weapons of mass destruction — agents whose sole purpose it is to destroy life, some more heinously than others. Those WMDs are stored in bunkers for a reason: because WMDs are notoriously unstable. It is pretty obvious that the WMDs stored in these facilities could kill millions of people in short order were they to be turned loose in the wind to drift.

    Other e-mails I received concerned the World Trade Towers, the Pentagon, and September 11, 2001. More and more questions are coming to light about the World Trade Towers and the Pentagon. I can remember the day very clearly. I was on my way to town when I heard the news on the radio. My first thought was that the newscasters were joking. When I realized they weren’t, my next thought was that my daughter was in Washington, DC, not far from the Pentagon. I pulled to the side of the road and called home to see if she had called. She had just called, she was okay. Knowing my daughter was okay, safe, my thoughts naturally turned, as any good American’s would, to anger: How dare they. How dare these ignorant, backward, uneducated thugs do this to MY country!!!! Just line the whole bunch of them up in front of an open ditch, dispense of them by firing squad, and bulldoze the ditch closed. Even that was too good for them.

    Following the initial shock of what had happened, reason finally took over and questions started to emerge. This nation maintains a fleet, at all times, of what are known as alert planes, everything from fighters to bombers, little and big, fast and slow, depending on their purpose in the mission of defending the United States. These planes are armed and ready to go at a moments notice. They can be off the ground, in the air, and headed for a target in a matter of minutes. With the capability to flat out move, they can acquire a fast moving target in short order, they can make an airliner look like its crawling. Scattered around the country, these jets also reside in proximity to our nation’s capitol. They are there for a reason — the defense of the nerve center of our nation.

    Protocol says if the acquired target does not respond to attempts at communication with defense aircraft, does not follow instructions to land, you blow the acquired target out of the sky. Just ask the pilot who got too close to President Bush’s ranch in Crawford, Texas. Now, given that these commercial airplanes, ostensibly carried passengers, were headed on a trajectory to the heavily populated areas of New York and DC, the loss of life if those planes were to be used as weapons was obviously going to be much greater than just those on board. So why weren’t the alert planes scrambled when the four commercial airliners went off the radar screen?

    Following the impact of the two planes into the twin towers, those towers came down. How they came down also raises questions. Both, hit in the side, imploded, as did World Trade Tower #7, not hit at all. Those implosions were so precise that the towers literally ended up piles of rubble. Ever wonder how that could have happened when those towers were obviously hit in the side. It stands to reason, if they were going to come down, that those towers would have toppled, not imploded so precisely.

    Some reasoned that the planes, carrying volatile aviation fuel, melted the steel support girders in the two towers creating a pancake effect which, once started, gained force under the increased weight and momentum the closer to the ground the phenomenon got. This is, of course, assuming that aviation fuel, exploding on impact, would burn hot enough and sustain heat long enough to melt the steel girders that maintained structural integrity.

    Unfortunately, aviation gas flashes (maximum but unsustained burst) at approximately 1800 degrees. It takes a sustained heat of over 2700 degrees to melt steel. Obviously the aviation gas, exploding on impact, would not sustain the heat required to melt the multitude of steel girders in the world trade towers.

    It also stands to reason that the heat from the exploding aviation gas would be highest at the point of impact, on one side of the building, not equally disbursed to all sides of the building. If enough of the steel support girders were melted to breach the structural integrity of those remaining, it stands to reason that the part of the building above the impact would list to one side and possibly topple, sending debris and rubble in every direction with the steel girders below that point maintaining their structural integrity. If the steel support girders on one side of the building were breached, even one side and one corner, the remaining girders on the other three sides and corners and within the building itself would maintain the structural integrity of the building.

    So how is it that the twin towers and World Trade Tower #7 — which was not hit at all — imploded upon themselves so neatly? This is a question more and more people are asking now and no one is answering. And the fact that no one is answering suggests that the prevailing explanation of who, what, when, and how is not credible. That the prevailing explanation comes from our government suggests that our government isn’t being forthcoming, truthful, or honest.

    With regard to the Pentagon, ever wonder why, when you look at pictures of the Pentagon taken immediately following the impact, you don’t see airplane parts, seats, human bodies, and luggage that would have naturally become projectiles exploding from the plane by the force of impact, following the path of least resistance in the opening created by the impact? Again, no answers of why we don’t see what should have been present.

    Now, back to the WMDs stored here in these United States. The American people may not know where these WMD storage facilities are, but terrorists make the location of such things their business. Nothing is unattainable if the price is right. The loss of life on September 11, 2001 was approximately 2700. Just think how many people could have been killed by hi-jacking something as big as a commercial airliner and crashing it into a weapons storage facility, breaching the integrity of the bunkers and letting lose a cloud of agents whose sole purpose it is to snuff out any life unfortunate enough to be in the path. Just think of the destructive capability. Just think of the horror, panic, and hysteria that could be initiated in a split second. There would be no containment. Any attempts to evacuate would be insufficient and too late. The prevailing winds would carry weapons of mass destruction, concentrated or diluted, everywhere. The long-term effects would be unforeseeable and unpredictable.

    Reports are now surfacing that Saddam Hussein actually did have WMDs and that there are secret tapes in which the use of those WMDs against America was discussed. The surfacing of those tapes, at a time when Bush’s intent in invading Iraq, his use of illegal wiretaps against American citizens, has come under fire, is suspect. The time for those tapes to have surfaced was then, not now. And while those tapes may exist, and may disclose discussions of using WMDs against America, the fact still exists that the mere threat of the possibility does not constitute grounds for invasion. What it does indicate is a need for increased security at all points of entrance to the United States, whether by land, sea or air. And the fact still remains that our northern and southern borders remain, post 9/11, wide open to anyone wishing to sneak across for whatever purpose. Three terrorists have been arrested, not generally known to the American public, and improvised explosive devices (IEDs) have been confiscated along our southern border. How many terrorists haven’t been caught and how many IEDs already exist on American soil?

    When IEDs start going off in this country, and it’s bound to happen considering the ability of illegal aliens to cross from Mexico into America with little or no deterrence, the American people are going to see firsthand blood spilled on their own soil, they are going to experience firsthand the horror of not being able to see it coming, of not knowing when they might be a victim, of living a chaotic existence beyond their control.

    Maybe then, the realization that knowledge is power and the lack of knowledge allows governments to lie to the people without consequence will bear fruit, will wake the American people up to the fact that they are being deliberately lied to and misled.

    In among the e-mails I’ve received concerning all this, I’ve been called a Bush-basher, a Bush-hater, anti-Bush, and been told I’ll have to eat crow when the tapes surface proving Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.

    We can argue semantics all day long, but the truth is that the American people have little to no knowledge of what their government is doing in foreign countries, how the United States government is using and abusing other nations, especially poorer nations. And the American government is certainly not about to enlighten the American people. Such would obviously not be in the best interests of the American government whose first and only priority is its own power and position.

    The United States is a superpower. With that position, in accordance with the foundations of our nation, comes the inherent responsibility to not be a bully. But that is how the United States is perceived by other nations, especially poor nations whose resources and governments are being used by the United States government for its own purposes, benefit, and economy.



    Now, if you were living in one of those countries, seeing your land laid to waste, your forests cut down, your air and water polluted for the benefit of a greedy, self-serving superpower, and knowing you couldn’t win a straight on confrontation with that superpower, what would you do to protect your land, your air, your water, your resources, your homeland, your family, your people? You wouldn’t think that chanting “death to America” or engaging in terrorist attacks was fanatical at all. You would see them as necessary to the preservation of your very life.



    The problem with Americans is that, for too long, they have not had their very ability to exist threatened. Americans are complacent, apathetic, lazy, and above all, willing to believe anything and everything they are told even when they know, deep down, that it isn’t logical and can’t possibly be true. The same is true concerning the willingness of Americans to act. The prevailing belief, even among those who are active dissenters against an out-of-control rogue government, is that our Constitution and Bill of Rights will always be there, without our help or vigilance, to protect us. To that end we nod our heads in agreement as our politicians, who would never meet the standards or qualifications of a statesman, pontificate vociferously, telling the American people exactly what the American people want to hear without challenge when those same politicians do the exact opposite but continue to be re-elected time after time.

    Make no mistake, I love my country. But I have no love for a government that no longer represents the American people, no longer exists within the bounds of the Constitution or Bill of Rights, but exists purely as an uncontrollable, faceless, growing monster devouring everything in its path.

    © 2006 Lynn M. Stuter - All Rights Reserved
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    THOSE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS, PART 2






    By Lynn Stuter

    February 28, 2006

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    In Those Unanswered Questions, published on February 20, 2006, some glaring errors were made. I’m not infallible but I do strive for accuracy.

    One individual, contacting me, made reference to the fact that the planes weren’t flying off the “radar screen,” they turned off their transponders. This is true. Had they been off the radar screen, air traffic controllers would not have been able to follow their paths to their points of impact. This is true for all but Flight 77 which hit the Pentagon. This plane did actually go off the radar screen, reappearing on radar as the plane flew over Washington DC en route to the Pentagon. Its return flight path is a matter of speculation.

    One individual pointed out that the WTC towers were constructed of a steel shell with a central core. Research also shows this is accurate. The WTC towers, also WTC #7, were all constructed of steel support beams spaced 39” center to center, in what is referred to as a steel lattice. The windows in this lattice were 22” wide, making the beams approximately 17” wide. Pictures of the rubble piles of the towers show huge sections of this steel lattice still intact. The central core of the buildings was quite large, constructed to carry the weight of the building, steel reinforced by concrete with steel floor trusses running from the core to the outer steel lattice forming floors that were 33” thick.

    Each tower had a 208’ facade. While the buildings were square, the central core of the towers was rectangular with the floor trusses between the central core and the outer steel lattice approximately 35’ at the ends of the central core and approximately 65’ on the sides of the central core. Using these figures we can deduce that the central core was roughly 138 feet long and 78 feet wide. The actual measurements would be somewhat less given the thickness of the outer steel lattice walls. This central core also housed the elevators, with express elevators going to the 41st and 74th floors with four banks of elevators carrying passengers from skylobbies at the plaza level, 41st and 74th floor to the floors in each of the three vertical zones.

    Each tower was equipped with an operational sprinkler system in the event of fire. This is a fact little known and little mentioned in any of the post 9/11 information but cannot be ignored in any discussion of what really happened and what really brought the WTC towers down in such a precise manner into their footprints.

    The twin towers were engineered and constructed to withstand being struck multiple times by the largest planes in use at the time the towers were built — the Boeing 707. This plane, while somewhat smaller than the Boeing 767 in overall size, also flies faster making its destructive capability equal to, if not greater than, that of the 767.

    On Tuesday, September 11, 2001, at 8:45a.m., One World Trade Center (WTC 1), the north tower, was hit by a Boeing 767 commercial jet; collapsing into its footprint at 10:29 a.m. — 1 hour and 44 minutes later. Two World Trade Center (WTC 2), the south tower, was hit by a 767 at 9:03a.m., 18 minutes later, collapsing into its footprint at 10:05a.m. — 1 hour and 2 minutes later and 24 minutes before WTC 1, hit first, collapsed. WTC 7, a 47 story office building built in 1987, collapsed into its footprint at approximately 5:20 p.m. that day. In all, all the buildings comprising the WTC complex either collapsed or were destroyed by falling debris.

    The prevailing story of why the WTC towers collapsed leaves many questions unanswered.

    1. One of the survivors of WTC 1, hit first, was on the 104th floor when the tower was struck. She and others in her vicinity managed to make it to the elevators, enter an elevator and ride down through the strike zone. If, as one theory proffers, the center core of the building was compromised by the impact of the plane,
    a. how were these people able to ride this elevator through the strike zone?
    b. how is it that the building continued to stand for 104 more minutes when the building should have collapsed instantaneously on impact?

    2. The heat sensitive sprinkler systems were working. Survivors tell of the difficulty they encountered going down the stairwells due to running water. This being the case, how can the claim that the planes sparked a raging inferno be accurate?

    3. Relevant to the above, smoke from an “efficient” fire, one that burns hot, is white and thin, smoke from an oxygen starved fire, producing little heat, conversely producing more soot, is thick and black. How can it be said that the planes sparked a raging inferno when the smoke coming from both towers was thick and black?

    4. Another theory proferred is that the fires sparked by the planes burned hot enough to weaken and compromise the steel exposed by the impact in the center core of the buildings; that the center core then collapsed bringing the buildings down. If this were the case, the WTC towers would be the first steel framed buildings to be brought down by fire, either before 9/11 or since. The fire in the 32-story steel-framed Windsor Tower in Madrid, Spain in 2005 burned for more than 10 hours, at its peak temperatures reaching 1472°F (800°C). Although no jet fuel was present, the fuel for this fire was, as the WTC towers, office materials: paper, books, desks, chairs, rugs, computers, phones, etc. Under intense heat, the top six floors of the Windsor Tower collapsed in a mangled twist of steel but the building stood, a crane still perched on the roof. Not near this amount of fire was evident at the WTC towers.

    5. A camera, sitting on a tripod, filming the WTC towers, picked up a vibration much like that of an earthquake just prior to the collapse of WTC 1. This same camera picked up a bright flash emanating from the base of the building just prior to the building beginning to implode. Witnesses at ground level and near WTC 1 recount hearing a loud explosion. What was this flash and what caused it? What role did that flash play in the almost immediate implosion of WTC 1?

    6. Firefighters and survivors in WTC 1 reported hearing explosions and feeling WTC 1 shake violently just prior to WTC 2 disintegrating into its footprint. Firefighters near WTC 2 reported hearing explosions and popping noises just prior to the implosion of the tower. People watching from the Brooklyn Bridge felt the bridge vibrate just prior to WTC 2 imploding; they said if felt like an earthquake. What caused the explosions that wracked WTC 2 just prior to the tower imploding? What part did those explosions play in the implosion of the tower?

    7. Film of the implosion of WTC 7 shows a precise controlled drop of the building into its footprint. How was this possible when such has never happened before or since without the aid of controlled demolition charges? Luck? Coincidence?

    8. Those said to have hi-jacked and flown the four planes to their deaths couldn’t even fly a Cessna aircraft, let alone take off or land. How did these hi-jackers turn these four huge planes around, then fly them to their intended targets without being able to see those targets and without being able to read the cockpit instruments which would guide them to their targets? Luck? Coincidence?

    The Pentagon was struck at 9:40a.m. Flight 77, destined for Los Angles, departed Dulles International Airport at 8:10a.m., 1 hour 30 minutes earlier.

    9. Flight 77 descended 7000 feet in 2 minutes 30 seconds coming in over DC. That’s screaming in a plane that big. How did a pilot who couldn’t even fly a Cessna manage to maintain control of this Boeing 757 descending at such a rapid rate? The plane follows the Potomac River south right past the Whitehouse and past the Pentagon, then executes a tight 270° turn and plows into the Pentagon on the west side in an area under renovation. Personnel in the tower at Dulles International Airport said that the manner in which the plane executed the 270° turn was indicative of a military plane piloted by an experienced fighter pilot. How did an inexperienced pilot do it? Luck? Coincidence?

    10. When the two planes hit the WTC towers, they sliced through the exterior steel support beams and lattice work leaving a gaping gash in the sides of the buildings. Flight 77 was a Boeing 757. This plane is 44’ 6” tall, 155’ 3” long, with a body exterior measuring 12’ 4”, and a 124’ 10” wingspan. Each engine weighs 15 tons. The Pentagon, at its highest point is 77’ 3.5” tall. With this information, is the hole left by the impact of Flight 77 of a size sufficient to accommodate an airplane the size of a Boeing 757? If the wings sliced through the steel lattice of the WTC towers, why didn’t they slice through the softer exterior of the Pentagon?

    11. Flight 77 hit the Pentagon at ground level. Picture a commercial jet coming in for a landing, nose up, flaps down, touching down on the rear wheels on a runway intended to take the weight of that plane. Now picture that same plane, nose level, body level to the ground, being flown by a pilot who can’t fly a Cessna, being able to fly that plane mere inches off the ground, impacting the Pentagon at ground level. Seem possible?

    These are just a few of the more obvious discrepancies in the official story of what happened on September 11, 2001.

    The existing attitude seems to be that anyone who questions the official story is somehow a left-wing commie sympathizer out to destroy George W Bush and our nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The truth is that the official story has so many holes in it one could easy drive an armada of Abram tanks through it. In short it doesn’t add up. Americans should be asking why it doesn’t add up and demanding answers to hard questions.

    Beyond that, the events of September 11, 2001, were the catalyst to the invasion of Iraq and to the passage of the Patriot Act (H.R. 3162; PL 107-56) on October 26, 2001. H.R. 3162 was the merger of three bills:

    1. H.R. 2975 introduced on October 2, 2001, passed on October 15, 2001; (House)
    2. H.R. 3004 introduced on October 3, 2001, passed on October 17, 2001; (Appropriations)
    3. S. 1510 introduced on October 4, 2001, passed on October 11, 2001. (Senate)



    September 11, 2001 has been used like a hammer to:

    1. pound fear into the hearts of the American people.
    2. justify the taking of rights from the American people.
    3. rally the American people around a cause in the name of patriotism.
    4. rally the American people against an unseen, unproven enemy.
    5. implement radical changes in America that ten years ago would have wrought howls of protest.



    Was September 11, 2001 really the work of radical Islamic Fundamentalists who couldn’t fly a Cessna let alone a jet, or was it a created crisis to effect the wanted solution; one that has everything to do with politics and power, and nothing to do with what is best or right for America as a nation or as a people?

    © 2006 Lynn M. Stuter - All Rights Reserved
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