why the President would have negative feelings toward an organization which show videos of innocents being beheaded. Surely that is just journalistic freedom.
Also, although not all Muslim fundamentalist are murderers, in that part of the world, most murderers are Muslim fundamentalists.
The problem is not with the religion, but with the belief that one has the only answer and that everyone else is wrong.
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23-12-2005, 11:19 AM #11
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look, some of u guys want to believe that the oppressive invasion of iraq is for the "good" then fine. im not going to argue that. it's no point. talk to any iraqi that came as a refugee and they will tell you that althouhg they may like your nation, they are not happy with the "Way" USA has tried help(hinder) their country. go ahead. ask a few and ull hear the stories. i have and i am horrified.
my response was to the notion that it was ok to bomb a media outlet (holding civilians) just bcos the information does not conform to US propoganda criteria. that is just barbaric and is the same as those justifying attacks agains the USA.
u should be ashamed of yourself. how would u feel if i (or anyone) said it was "ok" to bomb fox, cnn or any organisation inciting hatred against muslims/arabs?
i don't agree with methods used by iraqis to defend their nation(suicide/car bombs) but then again, i dont agree that military personnel killing innocent civilians(anywhere) shoudl consider these deaths as "collateral damage". however, when an anglo-saxon nation kills innocents, it's ok in the name of preserving "freedom" and "liberty" (is tehre such a thing anymore?)
i don't care about saddam, OBL, bush or ariel sharon. they can all go to hell where they belong. im concerned when an indiviudal thinks it's ok to kill civilians and dares to justify it or euphamise the act. this intself is a form of oppression and i will not stand in the way of those seeking justice.
everwise, please be wiser the next time you state your opinion regarding inciting violence against innocent people or organisations containing civilians. i can understand how you are lead to believe that your nation is doing the right thing in iraq. it's not just you, it's any nationlist who is eager to accept that their government only wants to help and has no self -interest.
you know the saying about those born every minute.
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27-12-2005, 12:06 PM #13
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im not saying they were better off. the people ive spoken (and lots of them) say the were better under his form of oppression. i would rather be oppressed by my own then some foreign invader.
having said that, im not defending saddam or his baath party. he had to go just like bush and sharon have to go. your comment about the insurgents wanting saddam back is incorrect. they just want they country back. it's a shia/kurdish/sunni issue. most do not want saddam back. but they don't want another dictator dictating what kind of regime they should have or which american puppet should be campaigning for election.
There are many countries that need to have their dictators disposed (including the US). why does the USA only want to "help" afghanistan, iraq and soon, syria and iran? why not the endless number of countries in africa, south east easis as well as south america?
the US is not going to leave. at least not 100% of the troops. they are still in korea, vietnam, russia, bosnia, serbia, croatia, parts of the middle east. go ahead, call any professor of international realations of ANY university and they will elaborate on my above statement.
THE US military needs to "oversee" all operations for "national interest". It's called neo-colonialism.
some of you will believe anything your government feeds you. that's ok. if everybody could think independently, the world would be no fun. nobdy wants tyrany. why don't u ask your government why they trained and funded saddam in the first place and why they didn't address his atrocities when he was battling iran on america's behalf?
Originally Posted by HoopLast edited by yhlc; 27-12-2005 at 12:20 PM.
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