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    Its a pity your religious beliefs don't teach you to answer the question somebody asks you.

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    Dear Manic1,
    Please don't be too hard on the people here. Sometimes we want to get our message out so badly, that we have tunnel vision. However, I do thank you for your support and bless you for it.

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    Default The fullfilment of the book of Joel chapter 2 and 3 in our times( The Last Days)

    Quote Originally Posted by hzchoice
    Dear Skylark,
    Although that is not exactly waht I requested, I do truly appreciate the materials you sent. This has been an area of great concern and object of my intercession for years now. It is so encouraging to know thta God is working so wonderously in the earth now. I do certainly agree with you that the great need now is intercessory prayer. God is truly moving in the earth greatly.
    I will follow up on some of the things you wrote.
    Here is a fellow Christian who has the same burden you do to see the Muslim world come to know Jesus as Lord. Here is the link. He has a newsletter but i cannot find the link. However, you will be able to tell from this iste what he is all about.

    www.joelrosenberg.com

    He is a journalist, a Jewish believer who has a great burden for the Arab world as well as seeing Israel prosper.

    Bless you,
    Grace
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    Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today,and forever. Hebrews 13:8

    The Lord is still interested in our lives today; the same way when He was interested with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the old biblical times many, many generations ago. I would like to share with you some concrete evidences first from my other post (Supernatural Encounters) that God still operates in the lives of men and nations so that people of all races would come to know Him for His second coming is at the door. The Lord is still talking to us in our modern times and manifesting Himself in visions, dreams, and even in actual appearances worldwide. I wanted some assurances, too, like you, hzchoice, if there are others besides me who are experiencing some miracles and supernatural encounters with Jesus thru dreams, visions, and in other ways. It started in March of 1983 when God directed my attention to Psalm 37. I was busy with my business in the financial world since 1978. Although my life revolved around my family, workshops/seminars, clients services, social gatherings; my spiritual life was zero for I didn't have a deeper relationship with God in the essence of not putting Him first and searching the kingdom of God before anything else. I did not truly know Him actually yet not until I started searching for some spiritual truths. And to continue with Psalm 37, the strange thing was that the bookmark went to Psalm 37 several times for three consecutive weeks everytime I opened the book and nobody was using my bible except me and I was starting to wonder especially on the third week for who could have been putting the bookmark. I must have read that particular psalm for more than a hundred times for I wanted to know what God was trying to tell me until the Holy Spirit started talking to me thru thought communications. He directed my attention to Psalm 37:4. "Delight thyself also in the Lord; and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart." This verse taught me that He is my loving Father and that I am His child and He filled the place of my own father who died when I was 17 yrs old for I fretted so much when I lost him. God taught me to trust in Him for he is the provider of my needs. "Trust in the Lord, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed. Psalm 37:3. I was watching a TV ministry in the late '90s and a lady was giving a testimony that God directed her to Psalm 37:4 for her blessings and that God is about to change her life. This gave me more affirmation of my experience with Psalm 37. I have shared this Psalm 37 to a lot of people to meditate on it for financial and miraculous breakthroughs in their lives. Some men of God who I never met in person write to me now and then and confirmed that people are being
    blessed by just their associations with me. I took it as a flattery at first, but then I have been truly and seriously desiring and asking God to use me as a blessing to so many people. At first I was amazed when my clients/friends even people who I have not seen personally but were connected somehow with people that I know started telling me of their blessings of being able to buy a new car, houses, spiritual and physical healings.

    My first vision happened in September of 1983. I was inside a church
    one Saturday morning and muttered to myself thanking the Lord for accepting me in His house(church) for my life had been likened to the life
    of the prodigal son away from the Father(God) busy with the cares of the world not knowing that He was waiting for me until I am ready to go home to Him with humility for accepting His Love and to change and transform me
    by removing the callousness of my character. And when I said this, I became so light as if a heavy object came out of my shoulder ( "Come unto me you heavy laden for my yoke is easy") There were no people inside the church yet for I was early) There was a criss-crossing of lights also inside the church. Above the pulpit, I saw faces of people, old and young floating
    above wearing some kind of aquamarine robes. I implored the Holy Spirit for the meaning of this vision and after 5 years, He told me(thought communication) that those are the ones to be baptized. Truly, there were so many baptisms in those years.

    Abiding in His Words for many years, I found out that I fell in love with the beauty of the character of Jesus and that I wanted to be like Him. God gave me a deeper depth of kindness,understanding, compassion and love for others irregardless of their races, color and creed and made possible by the fruit of the Holy Spirit imparting in me His divine love and for this, He gave me the gift and power of healing, also.

    I heard the voice of God in the later part of 1985 saying that I would be able to buy a house. I saw the house in December of 1985 and closed the sale
    and moved in by May of 1986. To this day I keep telling to people that my
    house is a gift from the Lord and call it the Lord's house. In my master bedroom, I have seven pictures of Jesus. I have seen the Lord for several times. He came to me as a bright yellow light in my bedroom like how Daniel in the Old Testament saw Him. He appeared to me as the stature and look of a Greek prince with a sword in my bedroom also. In 1994, He was standing so tall with yellow bright lights coming out of His two eyes in front of me as I was sitting in my loveseat in the livingroom watching TV. I could sense His wrath against the world because of its wickedness.

    The bible say that the Holy Spirit is our teacher. And so, I desired and
    and kept asking the Holy Spirit to teach me with knowledge and wisdom
    to understand the Words Of God. One morning at 10:00 a.m.in 1997 as I was doing my regular praying in the morning, I found myself going up to heaven but landed first on a cloud with a gate and in front of it was an old man with white hair, wearing a long white robe with a sash in the waistline
    opening the gate for me. Up to now I could still see the old man's hand
    opening the gate. I went up there not as an adult but could see myself as a young child with only a white piece of cloth covering my
    waistline going up to heaven. " Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever therefore shall humble as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven." Mathew 18:3,4.

    As I was ascending to heaven, I saw other planets with bright lights.
    Maybe there are other inhabitants in the other planets of the universe.
    Everything that God wanted us to know are all written in the Holy Words
    of the Old and New Testament of the Bible 2000 years ago but it says
    also that there are things that God had withheld from men's knowledge
    until the time will come when everything will be revealed. In a little while
    I saw myself standing inside a massive building. In front of me was an
    angel, about 9ft to 10 ft tall, and the body was all gold and holding unto a sword and was standing about a foot or more above the floor of the hallway.
    I found out later in the book of Ezekiel, that there is an angel, all gold
    that is guarding the holiest place in heaven.

    As I was standing in that hallway, a young man with a shoulder length
    hair and wearing a long white robe summoned me to go inside a room.
    Two elderly men came in and brought with them each holding a scroll
    with shiny wooden handle. We sat down and read. I don't know
    how long but after that I found myself as an adult instead of that
    of the young child who came in at first. My understanding with this
    is that the Lord allowed me as being in the level of a child first with my understanding of the bible and reached my level of spritual maturity
    when I went out of the room as an adult with long white robe
    and flying out of the big and wide window of that room. As I was flying
    away further, I looked down upon the ground and it was covered
    with grass so green and there was a tree and beside it were children
    with long white robes. Before, I flew away from that place, I noticed
    that the smallest and youngest child was looking at me intently and
    after that I found myself still in that praying position inside my room.
    After several years, when my grandchild was born. I noticed that her
    face is the same as the face of the youngest child that I saw in heaven.
    Again, I was watching a TV and a grandmother was telling her experience of
    also seeing her grand daughter with the exact face in her dream before the grandchild was born. My grandchild had seen and angel two times in my house and the last appearance that I know of was a visitation of Jesus and angel in my house also when she was in kindergarten. She had been
    writing letters to God ever since she learned how to read and write
    without anyone telling her and always singing while at home like and angel.

    I have seen Jesus face with a chestnut(brown) hair, shoulder length,
    and with a moustache. Other people told me also that this is how they have seen Jesus when He appeared to them. Since I have had so many supernatural and miraculous experiences, I would like to add that for this year 2 girls who were in a coma, one with a lupus and the other involved
    in a car accident are now living with an almost normal life. The Lord allowed me to pray for them and he honored it and heal them. To date 4 cases
    who were in a coma were healed, with the other 2 in the past several years ago, several with cancer, a heart problem and another with a diabetes. Another with a demon possessed client and now she is ever thankfull and singing for Jesus.

    After several months passed after I went to heaven, the Lord directed me
    into the book of JOEL, chapter 2 verses 23-32. It talk about the former and latter rain which is about the pouring of the Holy Spirit in the time of
    Pentecost when the disciples and the people found themeselves talking in foreign languages and healing people. We are now living in the End Times
    or Last Days and God is pouring His Spirit upon all flesh ( people from
    different countries gifted with supernatural gifts from the Holy Spirit)
    and those people from all races and creed comprised the great army of
    God placed in the different sectors of life: economics and finance, education,
    government (political) religion, and the entertainment industry and God will do great things before His second coming.

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    Dear hzchoice,
    Many thanks for sharing Joel Rosenberg website. I am also in correspondence with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.
    Compassion Ministry for Terry Law. His ministry is centered more or less
    in Russia, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, India, Indonesia and other countries. They have many supernatural encounters with angels protecting them from those dangerous countries. ADRA with a mission to help poor people , families with children in other countries and relief projects for countries affected by natural disasters. and other different faith ministries with the agenda to help people for they are inline with the prophecy from the book of JOEL.

    God bless!!!
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    Dear Skylark58,
    I truly thank you for your relating your personal experiences with the Word of God, both in person and in the written word.
    Incidentally, would you send me the exact URL for the pages you mentioned in your original forum. I could not access them with the info I had.
    Yes, God is truly moving in a tremendous way in this day preceding His coming (appearance) and He will appear to those who are "eagerly awaiting" His coming.
    The purpose of reading, experiencing and absorbing His written word is to make us more mature in our ministry to the downtrodden and hopeless of the earth. Maturity comes by eating meat, not pap.
    If you cannot access the message from Joel Rosenberg's site which reports about God's moving in the Muslim world, let me know and I can fax it to you. It is truly amazing.
    For at least two years I have been led to pray that the principalities and powers that have control in the Arab world will be deposed (not talking about the ruling powers, you understand?). Especially in Iraq. I have also been praying that when these people who are really seeking God go on their knees to seek their concept of God, that the true God reaches through and reveals Himself to them. This seems to be happening according to your accounts.
    Again thank you for relating your personal encounters with the written word of God. I will be contacting you by PM when I have pulled things together later.

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    Hi to all on this post;

    I thought you might like to hear my experience which is only the tip of the iceberg for me personally in my own life as a spiritual person. You might like to note others comments along the way. I would be interested in any feedback, regarding my situation. Thanking you for your attention.

    Kimlyn.


    To Skylark58;

    The purpose of reading, experiencing and absorbing His written word is to make us more mature in our ministry to the downtrodden and hopeless of the earth. Maturity comes by eating meat, not pap.

    Blessings Grace



    From : kimlyn
    To : Manoo
    Date : 2005-11-19 16:31
    Title : Re: Crossroads
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    Quote Originally Posted by manoo
    Greetings Kimlyn,

    It has been great conversing with you about "the faith". If you don't mind, can you please send me your "bitter Christian experience". I would love to learn how and why you are going down the road you are traveling with such boldness and certainty.
    I will do the same, if you are interested:-)

    Kind regards.

    Matt.
    HI again Matt;


    Below is a basic rundown of my situation/ experience.
    There is a lot more that could be added, but it probably wouldn't mean much to most. I was in Christianity for about 30 plus years; and now gone to the occult.

    Just between you and me, its not the individuals I have an issue with, as I don't even know them beyond the few words of exchange. I do have issues with the way some individuals handle their beliefs in that many are closed minded toward other views and see outsiders as satanic simply because they disagree. Naturally this close mindedness only breeds anguish or frustration when self righteousness creeps in.

    Unfortunately this mindset starts back in the beliefs gleened from scripture. If christians could see the damage and psychological casualties caused by religion based on scripture, then I'm sure the world would be a different place. Likewise too, with Muslims and the Koran and many other holy books.

    I was raised as a toddler as a Jehovah's Witness for the first thirty years of my life. I was fully immersed in water for baptism at 14 the youngest in my congregation of about 200 persons. My father was very active as a Witness as was my mother and both were looked up to in the congregation as spiritually strong publishers. [ A publisher is one who goes from house to house preaching.] During the 1980's I amased probably the biggest collection of Jehovah's Witness books in Australia, outside Headquarters in Ingleburn NSW. In time I started to find many of the doctrines to be flawed and in error. This resulted in me getting so sick I nearly ended up in hospital and was unable to hardly walk for months. Because of the situation I could not talk about it to anyone as the family would be shunned by the witnesses. MY first wife at the time also was going through many similar dramas. In 1989 I was Disfellowshipped for Apostatsy and as a result was shunned or cut off from the congregation. Nothing you can do will allow you to get back in as the Watchchtower Society marks you for life. The doctrine I had the main issue with was the neobabylonian Bible Chronology of the 70 weeks of years in Daniel and the dates related of 607 BCE and 1914 AD. Questioning this doctrine called into question the holy spirit on the faithful and discreet Slave Class. These are the ones who channel the spirit for writing the articles into the watchtower magazine. Of course the Witnesses claim thay are the ONLY one and ONLY true religion and all others are satanic. You have to be in an organization in order to be saved "scriptually" - so they teach.

    After I was excomunicated My wife and I joined another Christian church called the Church of the sacred Heart of Maitreyia. This small group charged tites to receive the holy spirit. I had issues with that doctrinally as it was free in the Witnesses and now I had to pay for it. Before all this happened I was baptised and the first person in Austrlai to have Ananad tara Shan burn the pentagram into my AURA at my baptism. In this church they channeled the holy spirit the Christ consciousness and the 12 master archangels as well as the ascended *******.
    Lord Maitreyia is the modern name for Jesus.

    In time my wife left me as a result of docrtrinal issues and went off with a member of the Maitreyia church. They took my 6yo daughter into hiding for 6 months and I was unable to find her for access. The solicitor for the family court supporting my wife was a chrurch member so the situatuion was biased from day one. I could not fight the church as I simply didin't have the money.

    After all this - I started to study other outside beliefs as the christian understandings, were certainly not helping my life. I quickly learn't from the spirits, that Jesus is a vampiric force which eats souls and that love is the bait used to catch the unaware. I also learn't that Jesus teaches cannabalism and blood drinking in scripture with the eating of his flesh and the drinking of his blood at the last supper. Yet Jehovah forbids the eating of Blood in Genesis 9:4 & 5 to Noah.
    Why because blood drinking is an occultic proctice jesus was teaching those going to heaven to carry on with. Blood drinking apparently gives one everlasting life, it increases the life span. Befpre the flood it was allowed and HUMAN LIFE WAS MANY HUNDREDS OF YEARS IN LENGTH. After the flood it dropped to 120 years and blood was not allowed to be eaten. But jesus taught this to his disciples, It is vampirism feeding on ones blood ( christ's) and flesh ( christ's) as a sustaining food source.

    I also learn't that these types of behaviour are characteristic to spirit forces called Theocrats. Ironically - Jehovah's Witnesses claim to be the ONLY TRUE THEOCRACY. In 1993 I read a book a self published called - WAR IN HEAVEN. IT was that book that gave me the experience, which shocked me so greatly - I was sick for 3 days, unable to get out of bed. The sickness was the realization that religion and especially Christianity is a food chain and program where spirits feed on human souls in order to control and grow strong. the more converts the stronger the spirits. Jesus is no different.

    So with that I started to study the origins of Yahweh or Jehovah; and found with some research that he is an elder god and originally theoon god. He also is a theocrat in that he feeds on souls and brings them into his care to feast on. He was the same god the aztecs use to worship and cut out peoples hearts and drink theri blood. He posess as GOD or the supreme being and is the same god behind the Jews and the muslims. He sets up an agenda to get the two religious sides to fight and in time kill each other. Ie terrorism is a part of his plan. He is man's creator and has created man as a food supply to feed off for the gods.

    Some of this material is only explained in ancient texts which predate christianity and opens the way up for much discussion. Freemasons are aware of some of this as well as certain occultic groups but as respects christians and more well known religions I doubt it.

    When leaving the witnesses my family went through literal hell with them simply because I questioned their doctrines. Now I am an outsider and shunned by all who knew me as a result. I still have some family in it who haven't spoken to me for years. Shunning is a biblical teaching which makes Christian Love CONDITIONAL. Just as God's grace is conditional - if you don't do as he says in the bible you will die at Armeggeddon or burn in Gehenna. Plenty of scriptures can be quoted to support this teaching.

    Adding to this - I recently lost a business a couple years after a bitter 2nd marriage breakup with my 2nd ex-wife. No Christian kindess and understanding was shown here, I was taken to the cleaners by the solicitors and her - loosing my home and the chance to see my kids.

    As for the business loss last year, I lost over a quarter of a million dollars( family inheritance ) and my means to make an income; because the Loving Christian person who owned the business, jiggled the computer and the books. I latter learned he was an active member of 'The Christian Businessman's Association' in Queensland, Australia where I live. I was expecting a n honest sale of the business and found he was paying cash in hand and lieing by not telling us every thing we needed to know about the business. We can't take legal action because we are now bankrupt.

    If you not a Christian your seen as somebody to rip off and treated as an outcast. I feel morally I should be compensated by Jehovah God and Christians in particular, for the damage done in my personal life. Until that happens I see no genuine love for fellow man. Many sympathize but few put the dollars on the table to back up their words. [ Don't take this as a request for money because it's not - people simple don't do that to outsiders.]

    Because of this situation; I have been able to join PIPS to try and finacially re-stablish ourselves - but as usual for my partner and I - the system fell flat on the day of our account maturing in August 2005.

    As for my partner, she too is hurt by Christianity because her brother child molested her when she was 8-12 and then joined the Christian Revival Church to avoid confrontation, and now shunns her family as they are seen as outsiders. Yes they talk in tongues and have the spirit; like many christians claim. When he is confronted about it he says "he is forgiven by Jesus and that he has paid his debt". Christians hide behind Jesus when it suits and that hurts and shows me that Jesus allows it as he does nothing to uintrevene and get justice for the victim.

    I confronted the Jehovah's Witnesess about the same issue of Child Motestation and they all sheepishly say "I no nothing" yet there is a whole website devoted to it and other Jehovah's Witness abuse at www.silentlambs.org Its worth checking out for these christians have a lot to answer for.

    I can go on for pages with similar experiences about christianity in my own life as the Jehovah's Wiytnesses have a lot to answer for and hide behind "Human imperfection" as a means of justifying their actions. And their Watchtower Society lies in court when it is all challenged - destroying files from the police and useing theocratic War strategy as written about in their 1957 Watchtower. "Theocratic War Stategy" is all about Lieing to authorities to protect the organization and the Elders of the congregation. You can look it up on the web with a search engine.

    When I see parliment in Canberra, Australia; pray to God before parliment sits; and then they screw us with new terrorist laws and Industrial relations policies and so forth, simply to destroy our quality of life. This to me is a part of God's real agenda and reason for inaction. He is generating a food supply by creating ALLOWING conflict to continue. He is obviously behind it all and the reason I support satan's perspective on things. God has done nothing to swing me the other way. Look at Genesis 11:7 where it WAS GOD - This Jehovah - which confused man's languages and has allowed the confusion to reign for millenia because it causes coonfusion misunderstandings and wars. A potential food supply for the gods, through man's conflicts. No wonder Nimrod was amighty hunter in opposition to Jehovah. He could see right through the agenda and stood up to him.

    Adding to this on another level our beloved George Bush is a TRUE Born-Again Christian, representing al,l you Christians; and yet a busnessman to Bin Laden and the Haliburton "Military" Company in the USA. Also a previous member of the secret order of 'Skull and Bones Society' - who is doing a lot of damage to the world because of his biggoted self righteousness as a Bible bashing Born Again Christian. He is a Christian warmonger - just like his god Jehovah, which is effecting all of us as a result. He won't let the Muslims live their own faith and as a result I feel for the Muslims - dispite their extreme nature.

    The USA is a Christian Country and it barges into peoples homes tortures them steals there oil and then says its Gods chosen natation. It supports Israel and promotes Yahweh's 'Protocols of Zion' which are all about screwing the Goyim cattle populace and bringing in the NEW WORLD ORDER.

    So what are we going to do about it? If we wait on God to act-we'll be waiting a very long time. If he can't fix my issues he won't care enough about the world.

    To me - God's inaction is sanctioning evil in our world and making himself an accessory to the crimes against humanity. That makes him guilty and irreprehensible, and as bad, if not worse, than the those carry out the crimes because he has the power to act and won't. If he can't act then he is weak and useless - so why should anyone waste time worshipping a weak god. He opens himself right up toward being blasphemed and abused.

    On that basis I feel totally justified in my anger and sympathetic towards having Nimrod's attitude - "as a mighty hunter in opposition to Jehovah" and Adolf Hitler exterminating God's Chosen race. I am also totally sympathetic toward the comming Antichrist as well and would be first in the Que, to take on the mark of the beast; as quickly as I could. Anything to not be part of god's holy people.

    Since I have left the witnesses I have studied Satanism in depth as well as I see a lot of merit in the satanic philosophy. I have done this because the Chrisytain side has led so bazdly I simply can't believe a word they say. Satan is blamed for literally everything and so to me - there are two sides to every story. Unfortunately Christians have lost me and made a bitter enemy as a result becuse they have betrayed my trust and Lied about having the truth. To nme lieing is satanic and so if christians lie that makes them satanic including their god who allows it.

    Lieing is supported in the bible when you see cases like Rahab the Harlot lieing about the spys in jerica before its destruction and yet she was the only one saved. That tells me the bible supports and saves liars because you have ONE VALID CASE.
    If god was perfect he wouldn't allow even ONE CASE to be supporting such. Firey gehenna is also supported when you see Jehovah wants to iflict fear in his people. Behave or you will die.

    If Christians use the bible to back their "God ordained" behaviour - then it's the bible that has the problem; which directly leads back to Jehovah God as it's authour, to blame and hold accountable. Hence my AXE to grind with God is great "just like Nimrod a mighty hunter in opposition to the Lord".

    And if God is not to blame - he has left himself wide open for abusive biblical interpretation by others; who claim to represent him; which is defaming his supposed good character. Whichever way - he has an issue to settle which is of his own making.

    Since leaqving the church I have studied the occult very deeply and found its nothing like what the churches claim. its not all satan and demons. Duet 18 tells one to not get involved with the occult and since Jehovah said it to the Israelites in Moses time I beleive he did this so people could not find out the truth on a matter so easily. He kept them in the dark and fed them bull****. This I have proven for myself many times over. Just another little reason to not have faith and trust in him or Christ.

    If at the end, all in all; I get shunned and avoided for expressing this view, then that to me validates everything I have said so far - proving my case. It certainly won't win friends and influence people. But for me make a very bitter enemy. God has crossed the wrong person with me.


    I can't have a relationship with any God, or Christ, who lies and can't be trusted. So until I am convinced otherwise -
    I'd prefer to burn in hell - at least I won't be controlled by them.

    So simply that is my case.

    Best of Luck with your faith. Regards
    Kimbal


    ================================================== ========From : kimlyn
    To : Manoo
    Date : 2005-11-20 21:19
    Title : Re: Crossroads
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manoo
    Wow, I totally understand why you believe the way you do. What can I say? All I know that everything that you believed about God from day one has been a lie. I know anything I would have to say to you, what I believe, you would dissmiss, because you have a total different understanding about that subject. The term "christians" is so widley used in a lot of cults and cultures that is really does not describe it's original origin. I must admit I had no idea that the JW's would use that term to describe themselves. I thank you so much for sharing your life with me, it has been a real eye opener for me. It was really saddend me to see all the crap you have gone and are going through, I am praying for you that you will see that God truley does love you and from the begining of time has set in place a plan for redemption for you. This plan was not man made with man made ideas and institutions.
    God has always loved you, it was nothing you have done that seperates you from Him. It was because we were born with sin. But it's the decision of recieveing salvation that we can make it right.
    I'II send you soon my story, but because you are such a learned man check out this web site. I'd like to know what you think.
    http://wayofthemaster.com
    Anyway, I'II chat to you soon:-)

    Matt.
    Hi Matt;

    Many thanks for your sympathy and support. Unfortunately its hard to put such a complex situation across to others in a few words - if at all. I will check then site you suggested out in the next day or so and get back to you. Please pass my story onto others who seem unaware of why I am the way I am. I get the impression Kevo and Denim don't see it as you do. Finally - I have no personal animosity with any body I have spoken too in a personal way - so if you could bearthat in mind it would be appreciated. My drama's do go much deeper than explained but you have the idea.

    Regards
    Kimbal Summers ( kimlyn )

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    Hi,

    With all due respect, can you also pray that the ruling powers who are guilty for the following acts of barbarism be deposed? unfortunately in this case, they are not arabs or "principalities and powers that have control in the Arab world" but people who claim to be the defenders of human rights and believers in the "real" god. they may be from the USA. just maybe.

    i trust that since you are a sincere christian and a god fearing person, you are against all forms of oppressions irrespective of their race?

    http://www.benjaminforiraq.org/contaminazioneitaly.htm
    http://www.xs4all.nl/~stgvisie/VISIE...formities.html

    Thanks in advance

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    Dear Skylark58,

    For at least two years I have been led to pray that the principalities and powers that have control in the Arab world will be deposed (not talking about the ruling powers, you understand?). Especially in Iraq. I have also been praying that when these people who are really seeking God go on their knees to seek their concept of God, that the true God reaches through and reveals Himself to them. This seems to be happening according to your accounts.
    Again thank you for relating your personal encounters with the written word of God. I will be contacting you by PM when I have pulled things together later.

    Blessings,
    Grace

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    Dear Skylark58,


    "I have also been praying that when these people who are really seeking God go on their knees to seek their concept of God, that the true God reaches through and reveals Himself to them."

    Blessings,
    Grace

    And I am sorry to shake your beliefs but the God the Muslims worship - ALLAH as the moon God, is the same God you Christians worship - namely Yahweh, or Jehovah. He in the Sumerian/ Akkadian culture was known as Nanna-Sin or simply SIN. Mount Sin or Sinia is his mountain, with which he revealed himself to Moses with the comandments.
    So Abraham's God - Jehovah is the same God of Ishmael and Hagar( by which the Arab Nations descended ) and the God of ISRAEL ( By WHICH THE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS CAME FROM ) through Sarah and Isaac. So asking this God to reveal himself has now been done. He is on Both sides which might tell you about his character and nature. As you asked I felt impelled by the Spirit to tell you all what my research has found out about the God I use to worship.

    Regards
    Kimlyn.

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    Dear Kimlyn,
    I certainly can't blame you for feeling the way you do. You have had the misfortune to encounter just about everything anti-Christian that poses as Christian. I have seen this so much it breaks my heart, just as I know it breaks God's heart. But the problem is that God will not cross our will. That is the one thing He will not do. If we decide to self-destruct He is grieved but will not interfere. In other words, we're the boss. If He forced us to change our thinking, we'd be robots. Who wants that?
    I do thank you for sharing your personal experience with me. I'm a very simple person, not given to speculating about these things. My purpose was to compile testimonies of those who had met God through reading the Scriptures in order to be a blessing and encouragment to my fellow Christians. But I do thank you nonetheless for our input.

    Keep in touch, please.

    hzchoice
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    Here is the URL for the supernatural encounters.

    http://www.elijahlist.com/words/index.html?offset=20

    Click on Nov 11, 2005 article by James Goll.

    God bless you for you are a good prayer warrior. Please
    continue interceding for the Muslims and others for your prayers have been heard and nothing is hidden from God. Fervent prayers with a contrite
    heart availeth much for they surely move the mighty Spirit of the Lord.

    Take care,
    skylark58
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