Thread: Robertson called for assassination of Venezuela

Very christian! At least some groups/institutions start to reveal their real faces; hopefully people realize how they are permanently dumbed down and manipulated for hidden agendas of greedy and power hungry orgs which again only serve the government and the (real) powers to be.
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Robertson called for the assassination of Venezuela's president

Pat Robertson, host of Christian Broadcasting Network's The 700 Club and founder of the Christian Coalition of America, called for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

From the August 22 broadcast of The 700 Club:

ROBERTSON: There was a popular coup that overthrew him [Chavez]. And what did the United States State Department do about it? Virtually nothing. And as a result, within about 48 hours that coup was broken; Chavez was back in power, but we had a chance to move in. He has destroyed the Venezuelan economy, and he's going to make that a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent.

You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war. And I don't think any oil shipments will stop. But this man is a terrific danger and the United ... This is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen. We have the Monroe Doctrine, we have other doctrines that we have announced. And without question, this is a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us very badly. We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200508220006
also: http://www.forbes.com/facesinthenews...acescan06.html

You sure are taking this title out of context.

I find it quite interesting that people like him out themselves and tell frankly what they (really) think, in this case of murdering a president by rather a covert operation (in which the CIA definitely is not a novice) than a costy war like in Iraq. He openly reveals a part of the US agenda in regard to oil which the US has vested interest in ("This is in our sphere of influence") and uses the cheap propaganda of "communist infiltration and Muslim extremism" and "dictator".

Pat Robertson is not a nobody, he is the founder of the Christian Coalition of America, an organisation which surely has not little influence on some people in the US. You surely feel insulted by my comment because you're apparently a christian. So am I. Now what? Does that mean that every church, religion or organisation has a white vest or even tells/preaches the truth and that nobody is allowed to criticize or question them because they are authorities? My intention is to reveal things. It's solely your decision how to deal with it, to accept it or not.

Originally Posted by jsully

You sure are taking this title out of context.

"Muslim Extremism" in Latin America?I seriously doubt THAT!That's as likely as the Pope becoming Hindu.

Mickey,

You have to understand that Pat Robertson occasionally says *****ic things. I don't know what the reason is. Maybe he has brain cancer, maybe aliens have taken over his body and are using him as their human slave, maybe it's because he is suffering from malnutrition on that all tomato juice and bran muffin diet of his. For whatever reason he sometimes opens his mouth and the most inane, foolish, asinine things come out. Well, that's ok, all of us say stupid things, it's just that Pat Robertson says them on national television in front of a million people. Don't mistake what he said for what most Christians believe. We don't agree with this policy and we think he was an ***** for saying it.

Don't get me wrong, I like Pat Robertson and I agree with him a lot of the time. But I am also well aware that he says things that should have been bleeped out. Maybe they should put the show on a 10 second delay so they can edit out the asinine statements.

I’ve read some of your other comments and because of that I thought it was important to make the distinction that Pat Robertson does not speak for Christianity in general. He certainly does not speak for me. Don’t take his comments to characterize what Christianity really is. In fact, Robertson has gone on to apologize for those remarks. I guess he now thinks they were stupid too. Well good, at least now he agrees with me.

- TwiceWise

Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson prompted a firestorm of media outrage on Tuesday after he suggested that the Bush administration should assassinate a foreign leader who posed a threat to the U.S. - in this case, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

But when senior Clinton advisor George Stephanopoulos publicly argued for the same kind of assassination policy in 1997, the press voiced no objection at all.

Fresh from his influential White House post, Stephanopoulos devoted an entire column in Newsweek to the topic of whether the U.S. should take out Saddam Hussein.
His headlined? "Why We Should Kill Saddam."

"Assassination may be Clinton's best option," the future "This Week" host urged. "If we can kill Saddam, we should."

Though Iraq war critics now argue that by 1997, the Iraqi dictator was "in a box" and posed no threat whatsoever to the U.S., Stephanopoulos contended that Saddam deserved swift and lethal justice.

"We've exhausted other efforts to stop him, and killing him certainly seems more proportionate to his crimes and discriminate in its effect than massive bombing raids that will inevitably kill innocent civilians," the diminutive former aide contended.

Stephanopoulos even offered a way to get around the presidential ban on foreign assassinations:

"If Clinton decides we can and should assassinate Saddam, he could call in national-security adviser Sandy Berger and sign a secret National Security Decision Directive authorizing it."

The Stephanopoulos plan: "First, we could offer to provide money and materiel to Iraqi exiles willing to lead an effort to overthrow Saddam. . . . The second option is a targeted airstrike against the homes or bunkers where Saddam is most likely to be hiding."

The one-time top Clinton aide said that, far from violating international principles, assassinating Saddam would be the moral thing to do, arguing, "What's unlawful - and unpopular with the allies - is not necessarily immoral."

Stephanopoulos also noted that killing Saddam could pay big political dividends at home, saying the mission would make Clinton "a huge winner if it succeeded."

I know what you mean. But I have a different opinion. Robertson or anybody else who holds a higher position is not a "dumbass", afterwards they might correct themselves and say" that was stupid from me" or any other excuse, you know to create the picture of "the natural man who also makes mistakes", a clever tactic to make the folk believe "Oh, yes, he's one of us". He knows exactly what he has told! Don't get fooled by rhetoric speech and sympathy ;-)

Furthermore of course I know that he didn't/doesn't speak in the name of Christianity, he misuses Christianity for malevolent purposes. Some folks will agree with him (there will always be some radicals) and others surely won't, so he tries to speak for both aspects in order not to lose his "fans" ;-) You have to realize that all sorts of religions are misused nowadays which goes back thousands of years. With religions people get manipulated and if you don't agree or step outside than you're expelled of the herd and become a black sheep. (btw, what happens with sheep? :lol:?) Religions are the perfect tool to fuel hatred between different folks (e.g. radicals in Islam, Judaism (Zionism) and Christianity) and to justify wars. Ever thought how this "Our God is better than yours" is SO stupid and ridiculous?? Here we have again how "believers" are misused for the interests of powers to be, blindly following the propaganda...

The early Christianity has nothing to do with what is taught and preached today, everything is biased and many many lies and secrets... What I told here is only a tiny aspect, religion is only one of many tools of propaganda and indoctrination. That's why the catholic church for example soon will fall apart and with it all churches and religions will become quite meaningless.

Don't misunderstand me here. I don't hate people who believe in a religion or church. I only try to show the other side of the coin, that not all is so rosy and that way as we were taught and told in our lives.

Originally Posted by Twicewise

Mickey,

You have to understand that Pat Robertson occasionally says *****ic things. I don't know what the reason is. Maybe he has brain cancer, maybe aliens have taken over his body and are using him as their human slave, maybe it's because he is suffering from malnutrition on that all tomato juice and bran muffin diet of his. For whatever reason he sometimes opens his mouth and the most inane, foolish, asinine things come out. Well, that's ok, all of us say stupid things, it's just that Pat Robertson says them on national television in front of a million people. Don't mistake what he said for what most Christians believe. We don't agree with this policy and we think he was an ***** for saying it.

Don't get me wrong, I like Pat Robertson and I agree with him a lot of the time. But I am also well aware that he says things that should have been bleeped out. Maybe they should put the show on a 10 second delay so they can edit out the asinine statements.

I’ve read some of your other comments and because of that I thought it was important to make the distinction that Pat Robertson does not speak for Christianity in general. He certainly does not speak for me. Don’t take his comments to characterize what Christianity really is. In fact, Robertson has gone on to apologize for those remarks. I guess he now thinks they were stupid too. Well good, at least now he agrees with me.

- TwiceWise

Then why did you even post this stuff on a forum knowing you would get all kinds of comments and opposition? I do agree that Pat Robertson isn't the brightest knife in the drawer and too agressive in what he says in public light.