How to help Pips and avoid problems in the future

[peterben]

Thank you BeeTap. When you refer to a spirituality of a personal kind, I very much agree also. It is important to practice spirituality and what better way to show concern for others in need by helping them. Indeed, that is practiced spirituality.

God bless you,

Peter

[peterben]

Thank you BeeTap. When you refer to a spiritua;ity of a personal kind, I very much agree also. It is important to practice spirituality and what better way to show concern for others in need by helping them. Indeed, taht is practiced spirituality.

God bless you,

Peter

P.S. Sorry, this repeated post is by mistake.

[peterben]

BeeTap, If you are really interested, as you indicate, I take my hat off to you. Not many people are this well intended.

Peter

[Nanni]

Thanks Peterben an BeeTap

[seadolphin]

Dear All,
This is really a nice and positive forum.
Personal development is so important and we all need to practice compassion and ethics. The more we learn about ourselves, the better we become at understanding others.

A quote for your day:
"Whenever you make a mistake or get knocked down by life, don't look back at it too long. Mistakes are life's way of teaching you. Your capacity for occasional blunders is inseparable from your capacity to reach your goals. No one wins them all, and your failures, when they happen, are just part of your growth. Shake off your blunders. How will you know your limits without an occasional failure? Never quit. Your turn will come."
Og Mandino
1923-1996, From "A Better Way to Live"



Our Pips will come back.
Manifest the come back EVERY DAY!
The power of thought is amazing, so keep your thoughts POSITIVE!

Live well and Take Care!
Sea Dolphin

[interesting]

Excellent and well thought out, Nanni.

I am sure Bryan has given much thought to changes for PIPS on its resurrection.

What your first post in this thread looked like was an invitation to dialogue, brain-storm ideas for a revised PIPS. Then it degenerated to what should be personal dialogues between individual members. Couldn't you, Style, second mouse carry on your personal discussion through PMs?

How is it that MODERATORS allow the focus to degenerate when such good ideas are promulgated and should be encouraged to continue?

May I try to regain your intent.

PIPS shall return.

Some problems with PIPS arose with payment processors taking too long to disburse funds to memeber, or members accounts being hacked. Bryan tried to remedy that by creating PICPAY to handle payouts. However, banks could not handle the volume of transactions. Most of you know that it takes 15-20 minutes of clerical time to get your bank to do a wire transfer. Well, if every PIPSter (100-400,000 members) requested one transfer a month...do the math....how many clerks would be required?

Bryan's solution to this problem was our own bank, but we didn't see the conclusion of that effort...why? was it the impatience of members to see cash flow? was it the greed of individuals that thought they could shorten the wait time by creating "psuedo businesses" with PICPAY, surcharge members for "services", or "products"? Then when they didn't get their way they screamed to BON? Hmmm??

I hope Bryan is able to establish our own bank before he re-opens PIPS.

At least when BON completes their investigation, they will confirm what we all believe. Bryan is a man of integrity with a heart for the less fortunate, and was creating wealth for under-privileged class. With a clear slate, international banks will have to agree with the National bank of Malaysia that PIPS is a legitimate business and should be treated as any other multi-national business.



I concur that a limit should be placed on monthly earnings, with justification for increased earnings won by...

1. Submission of Need.

For instance, with a comfortable personal income, I would be positioned to start a business with the intent of providing humanitarian relief or eccological aid...that would justify an increase in monthly draw.

2. Demonstration of Concern.

There was a "pay-it-forward" program that allowed PIPSters to benefactor others into PIPS with the understanding that as soon as they were able, they would benefactor someone else, and so multply compassion. This was an excellent way to help others. So...for every member that demonstrated such concern, they would by that demonstration earn "additonal" draw capacity. Isn't wealth really about how you use it? I know some very poor people that are extremely rich because they share the little that they do have with others. Then again, I know some very wealthy people who are very poor, because they hoard it or spend it on themselves, or ar paranoid that someone will "steal" from them. More hmmmm?

Does this follow the intent of your original post, Nanni?

interesting

[timmu]

Nanni,

I appriciate your thought and the kind of positive energy you maintained around.
This is my first probably post in this forum after PIPS is closed. I too have been silently supporting to BM during whole crisis keeping in mind that we need some strong people who can take a risk behalf of you and prove uncoventional thing so easy. But when i read BM saying he has posted some thread in this forum by other name and accusing Rolclub Amin for not keeping privacy maintained. It shocked to me. what was the point mentioning again and again that i live in 10*10 room or working very hard to rebuild PIPS . More than two years are over when people have not received and payout from PIPS but still they have been standing by to BM. When BM narrants his problem of survival ... it raises question in total to veracity of whole approach of BM. In last i would mention that BM was weak otherwise he should have come out openly and accepted the fact that PIPS is no more or Dead rather assuring members for last two years.

There are to areas in this world wich the "dark forces" and negative, selfish and ego people really can misuse. Thats money and sex. A lot of trouble in this world have to do with either to of them - or both.

It seems to me that our relationship to money isn't always healthy. The "old" administration at Pips have showed us that very clearly. Some of them who did let both us and Bryan down, sure didn't think with their heart, but their egoes. And those who made this mess concerning BN didn't care for anyone else than themselves for sure.

Money is a neutral energy. We can use it and earn it in a good way, or we can use it and earn it in a bad way. It isn't the money who is "evil", it is sad to say, the human being.

Receiving and earning a lot of money also represent a challenge how to handle the money the right way: How to help ourselves and others, and not bringing other people down because of our own big, selfish egoes.

The possability to earn a LOT of money intrigued a lot of people to invest in Pips. Most of us for good resons, but some of them for bad reasons too. This year have proved these people where willingly to both steal and destroy to "help themselves". Or maybe they believed they where "smart"?

So what can we to do to "save" our Pips, and not allow the neagative people to destroy Pips once again?

I suggest something unexpected. When Pips is up running, I suggest Bryan put a "roof", a limit for how much we can invest. We shall sure get our money wich are already there. But when it comes to new investments, I do belive Bryan needs to figure out something that can prevent the really bad and greedy people to invest too much - and at the end of the day destroy too much for all of us - like they already have and still try to do.

We do know by now that the % ROL was a bit too high. We have already been told that Bryan needs to restructure Pips. My personal belief is that the % has to be reduced, BUT IT WILL STILL BE GREAT for ordinary people! Bryan wants to help ordinary people and those who doesn't have anything at all. $1000 to $25.000 is still a lot of extra money for very many of us "ordinary" people.

Maybe we need to think it over, and arrange a Pips where we can handle the money, both the administration and the members? The sad truth is that we didn't handle it in the first place. And we really have to think it over, if we shall succeed in our second try.

Pips doesn't need to attract those who are going for the really "big" money. They can go elsewhere and create their negative mess. I have sure had enough of them for many years to come.

And I do know one thing for sure: When Pips raise again, Bryan needs to work together with people having the same spiritual conection as he has himself. There is no doubt in my mind that Bryan has a very good soul. He has idealism in his heart and we know he wants to help the less fortunate. I do know he would have been giving up a long time ago if he didn't have his spiritual wisdom in his heart and contact with a higher purpose for Pips.

The only way we can survive and let go of the negative people, are to be a part of this spiritual, higher purpose of helping people around us and ourselves to a better life.

It sure helps to contact our soul and the higher purpose of our inner being. We are here for a reason all of us. We all have something to learn, and life itself are our teacher.

[rknair]

Hi,
Maybe HE was a CON from the beginning?Remember once you had this site called www.biztrix.com.au from Australia ,asking people to invest saying it is run by BM but that was quickly taken off when people mentioned it in PI Forum?
Maybe , just Maybe, So MAny were taken for a ride.
Halotto and 10by 5 and many more will be there , in that case, to follow. Maybe for a change TG was right? Other sites mentioned by them with the same IP ad
maybe his. And He is living in a 12/12 room?
Hope this also is wrong.

[addhesive]

This saga is likely to drag on for a long while yet.

Maybe he is a con artist, maybe he isn't but until the authorities do something constructve then we will never be sure.
I found a link (in my signature line) that makes me think that Bryan was legit and was doing his very best to help many people achieve their aims.
If I am right I hope he will be able to continue the good work he has put in up to now.

[berner19]

Thanks Nanny,
I totally agree with you. Bryan is a good man, with a compassionate soul.
Anyone else would have given up a long time ago!
God Bless,
Berner 19