Thread: Bryan lied from the start

The verdict on PIPS has not been released and everyone here(except for a few) has already decided PIPS fate. This is a great example of overreacting. I agree that BM was a little "shadey" on the 10*5 deal, but think about possible reasons he did so instead of bashing him. Once again it is very important that we let BNM decide PIPS fate and do what we can to keep postitive. I know I am in a small crowd on this belief, but I feel that this is the only option.

Well, how quickly we turn when things don't go exactly as planned. I'm glad I don't live in a country ruled by the majority of the posters in this thread. If so I'd be guilty until proven inocent. Do the Salem Witch Trials ring any bells? Let's just reserve our judgement until we know ALL the facts.

I don't blame Bryan for using an alias to start the 10X5 Cycler. I would've done the same if it meant i'd get that much closer to getting back on track and helping people again. We all saw how quickly HAL was shut down when Bryan had his name attached to it.

Marek, I can't believe how you are reacting to this. So Barry is really Bryan, so what? Does it matter that much in the big picture? I don't think so. What you have done is probably shut down another avenue for Bryan to rework the PIPS program and get it going again should BNM release BM/PIPS without charges. Also i'm sure there were more than a few people who were looking forward to cycling in the 10X5 and receiving their payout. Now that is very unlikely to happen.

Some people have WAYYYYYYY too much time on their hands to worry about every little detail of every little thing in their life. I live by a much simpler mantra, Don't Sweat The Small Stuff! Try it, you'll like it.

Yes way2go you are right.
I want remind only I asked very simple question about 1x5
and Nemo immediately closed thread and said my questions are not needed...

I agree with mistymorning. I still have faith in Bryan.

Originally Posted by mistymorning

We have not heard from the bank yet.
As for using the other name. Look at what happened when he tried to get the lotto up. The clowns who didn't want to see him do anything positive did their best to destroy him. Just as they did with pips. Would you use your own name. People say that he didn't come to the forum. If you read his post, he said he wouldn't say anything until the investigation was over. I stand behind Bryan. I spent 6 hours with him, and he is no scammer. He cares about people. Why do you think he started pips? If he wanted to just scam people, he could have run pips for a few months and pick up a few million and then disappear, never to be heard from again.
People need to just settle down and wait. If not, it will be their loss.

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leftyken - I for one, appreciate what you're trying to do, but IMHO, you'd be better off just slipping away & leave the disgruntled masses to stew in their own juices. After spending quite a few hours in Bryan's company myself, I agree with you totally, but I'm not about to try changing the minds of those who "will NOT see" - especially since they don't want to see!!

Also, I noticed that they've ignored all the pictures & records of the thanks that he, Sharon & the PIPS members received for starting the first of the four 'houses/schools' for the poor street children in the Philippines: the pictures of the Bistros that were started & the people enjoying themselves there - but that's enough - of course, these things were all made up & specially posed, just so he'd look good, of course!!!!! (Extreme sarcasim here!)

Now, the disgruntled masses can start to trash my thoughts too - that's OK - I don't plan on sticking around to read your trash-talk. I'm sorry for you all!

mistymorning

SIMPLY PUT :No one runs a business reutedly worth so much in such an iresponsible, criminally negligent way.

We were sucked in with the idea of "Christian Aid" to the poor. Even those with sick family among us and debts that would have been resolved with PIPS if Marsden or Marcos (president) had not cheated and lied blatantly, gave genorously and backed the plan.

So where is the apology from Bryan and Sharon? You won't get it. A small fortune is offshore or in solid gold and if they are not put in jail which with bribes out there is unlikely, they will indeed "slip away" to live in luxury while those with sick or dead family due to unpaid bills are left to question if there really is a God that could let monsters like that steal and laugh at others misfortunes for trusting them and their "supporters".

Eventually the grand finale will take place and no matter who has said what, the final account will either go down hard or easy.

I'm sure you all are familiar with "style" and the infamous "dogman" and I am hoping that the finale sticks in their throat because they deserve it.

I wonder if Owen Platt will have the guts to write another book telling everyone how wrong and stupid he has been!

Quote: "What Humanitarian Aid, Let me ask any of you, Do you have any proof that any money was donated to any kind of AID."

Now I understand criticak comments made by some strong supportrs of BM when I posted threa about Better World Projcet. We offered 100% transparency - no $1.00 we can move out without notice of members - but some supporters of BM said its not ok and its nothing. Curious, Bryan offered no one proof he donated money to humanitarian aid but it is ok for them because it is holy men BM.
If anybody offer them venture with 100% transparenxcy they don't like that.
Just my 5 cents.

Originally Posted by MrIncredible

I don't blame Bryan for using an alias to start the 10X5 Cycler. I would've done the same if it meant i'd get that much closer to getting back on track and helping people again. We all saw how quickly HAL was shut down when Bryan had his name attached to it.

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If you read carefuly my post you'll notice that my remark was about Bryan starting new programs, not about runing the program under a alias name.He implied he won't start new programs, he did, so he is a liar.

Originally Posted by way2go

If you read carefuly my post you'll notice that my remark was about Bryan starting new programs, not about runing the program under a alias name.He implied he won't start new programs, he did, so he is a liar.

You could be wrong couldn't you?


Consider this:

What if he meant what he said at the time that he said it?

What if conditions changed? Is it not just as possible that he changed his mind?


Have you never been sure about something but then changed your mind later on?

Does that make you a liar? NO!

Should I scream that you are a liar because you changed your mind and made a new decision?

Maybe you should be careful about your accusations. What if you are wrong?

Should I beat you up (verbally) and scream at you then?

What are you doing?

Originally Posted by way2go

If you read carefuly my post you'll notice that my remark was about Bryan starting new programs, not about runing the program under a alias name.He implied he won't start new programs, he did, so he is a liar.

There is a difference between being a liar, and breaking a promise.

A year and a half or so ago I promised my daughter I'd never smoke another cigarette. At the time, I meant it.

A bit later, I was going to be made redundant and was very stressed and smoked again. Was I a liar for doing this? No. At the time I meant what I said. Instead, I broke a promise.

BM was only lying in this instance if he was planning the launch of 10x5 at the time.