I only asked an opinion NOT FACT !!!
Is healthy debate not allowed in this forum ?
To ask if a thought that PIPS has run out of money too hard to swallow and ponder ?
Remember, i didnt say they ran out of money, it was something to think about !!
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I only asked an opinion NOT FACT !!!
Is healthy debate not allowed in this forum ?
To ask if a thought that PIPS has run out of money too hard to swallow and ponder ?
Remember, i didnt say they ran out of money, it was something to think about !!
They've not run out of money, why bother updated the old Pips Page just for the sake of it, something very basic I know but still moving forward, thats without the other programs that have actually started.
I think people fail to understand how much red tape there is with banking regulations etc and what a lengthly process it is.
We have had some really great posts on here by people that have taken the time to understand this process and to share their knowledge with us.
I've been a member for just under a year and don't intend on taking any money out for at least another 9 months, so I'm pretty sure that these conversations will been long forgotten by then
have a good day
Nigel
eels, think about your question.
Who can really answer this (and has enough authority to make you believe him/her)? No one here...
Of sure anybody can give his/her opinion. But I don't think that the added value the arguments raised in such discussion *might* offer you is worth the negativity merely the nature of your question will inevitably produce. Imho this isn't your fault nor the mod's... but of a number of negative 'mood making' people around here... who can't control themselves and just start whining and complaining ... as such drowning any possible reasonable discussion. I'm sure in other circumstances, your question could be discussed rather peacefully... maybe even on this forum, somewhere in the future ;-).
Just to give you some hold:
- other discussions around here, like on banking problems, actually deal already with your question but from another point of view. Jus take your time to look around, search, read, balance opinions and make up your mind. Keep in mind it in the end all comes down to the question whether you you consider P*P*, the way it's supposed to raise 2% and the content of CEO's statements reliable or not. If reliable, money probably isn't the problem. And if not, well... every next second here is a loss of time (as I'm still here, you can guess my opinion ;-);
- the old forum contained a well structured post with a simulation about when P*P* should have 'crashed' if their busniness was just fake, based on some reasonable assumptions on the number of members joining, withdrawal time & size,... I don't remember the details... exept that the result was rather (!) positive but that even this was subject to discussion as whatever you say, minds made up aren't easy to change...
So the best advise I can give is... wait for a while. As your answer will probably be answered by P*P* itself... at the time when they'll conquer the delay... or not.
In the meanwhile, enjoy the time you're given... live your life... or feed your mind with the many arguments, info and references to literature all over the place. There's enough for weeks to learn...
Take care!
Nice post Hasse
It seems everybody can give his own opinion right now (thanks mods!!), so here's mine:
I don't think Pips has run out of money, maybe has run out of cash, but not money. Pips got our money invested in bricks & mortar bussines (bistros, fashion, bible, and maybe real state...) So basically the money IS THERE.
But you guys must realize that we are not those bussines legal owners. BM is the real owner (BM's bistros, BM's fashion, BM's bible, and maybe BM's real state). Any profit from those bussines is BM's profit.
And if he plays fair he should share it with us.
So, it's up to BM. The ball is in his ground... once again.
Yeh but its OUR money he has borrowed !!!!
Right - the money is invested and making more money... but how much cash to pay us back our ROL is there in the bank? That is the billion dollar question.
Let me ask you this.Quote:
Originally Posted by eels
You're asked to make a choice.
A. Invest you money and get 2% per day but you are unable to touch it for 1 year (because it's tied up making more money).
or
B. Invest your money and get 5% per year but can access it within 24 hours.
Which would you choose? Obviously we would all choose A. but we should all only put in money we can afford to live without for that 1 year plus we want to be sure that the person controlling the money in option A. is honest.
I'm not disputing that he has our money but if he gives me back all the money with 2% daily interest as promised, then i'm a happy camper no matter how long it takes.
Where does it say you cant touch your money for a year, and what about us who have been in it for a year. That was not the case with this program.Quote:
Originally Posted by webinvestor
Yeah but no one was told they would have to wait a year to get it.
The agreement says you can access your money in 3 to 5 days.
The rules were changed AFTER we invested the money. Then the lock went into effect. So that is not fair.
So the question of a bank investment or this is not even a contest.
banks usually dont change the rules.
We loaned in good faith, we need a return in good faith.
This would not even be an issue I believe if we has some communication on a regular basis. Still lacking in professionalism.
But we MUST stay positive , We have NO choice.
So carry on with your lives and if he gets it fixed great if not consider your options to do something about it then.
weee !!! :shock:Quote:
Originally Posted by truepipster
I think the time to do something about it has come.
:x
yes webinvestor.
This forum is [edited : sz] a forum.
Isnt a forum suppose to have arguements from both sides of the fence ?
I'm not a troll ! I'm just letting people know what i've found out [ :roll: what your facts ? :edited :sz].
Why post only positive items here when we all know that things arent going well ?
People need to know what is happening or else it is nothing .....edited : sz
and you got a big feedback, eels.
YOU DID agree to LEND your money to P***
BM did NOT FORCED you to do it. :evil:
Stop complaining and whining and do something better with your time :twisted:
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Originally Posted by eels