Why PIPS will return

A quick check of "the list" will tell you which side I am on, so it may surprise you that I start this thread.

But I promise: I have no hidden agenda. And, I will not come back to dispute, refute or otherwise disrespect the responses. I am just TRULY CURIOUS -- not at all that so many people believe PIPS will come back -- but as to WHY?

Here is another chance to explain, respectfully, to those of us on the "not" side of the list, why you feel PIPS is not like all the other HYIPs that, once they go down, never come back.

Many say they have a "gut" feeling, a strong belief; go ahead and repeat that if you want. Others have said it's because BM has not "fled" like the heads of other HYIPS
and others have said they met him and believe in his integrity.

Please state any and all reasons why PIPS will come back, if you feel like it. Also, quite a few have said it will come back, but in another form. So, how then?

All answers respected. Please no personal attacks.

SoulSurfer

PIPS will return due to:

1. PIPS was a legitmate business.
2. PIPS had a official office that any member could find.
3. The PIPS program was based on a group of actual businesses..PIPS reality etc....
4. Conventions were held and still in the planning for the future.
5. PIPS had a personal contact in BM.
6. PIPS was down before and came back to life.
7. BM has not run away. He posted recently in the HALotto form.
8. BN is still investigating PIPS. If it was a scam. Why are they still looking at it?
9. Many founders are still posting here with great confidence that PIPS will return. If PIPS was dead they would not waste their time.

Here are just a few reasons.

Brad

It really takes a while to get my fires going.........

We have been asked to be silent for a time. BM himself has said that "when" and "if" there is anything to talk about, he will. Until then, consider it a waiting game.

I, myself, find it very curious as to why those who are sure it is dead and gone want your reasons why it isn't or shouldn't be. Do not feed their appetites of destruction and mayhem! Say nothing, do nothing. He has asked this on at least 8 different occasions in the past months. Let's all do everyone a big favor and drop it for a week or two (or three). All that is being done here is to keep everyone on edge and at each others throat. What can be done (with Pips) is being done. NOTHING you or I can do about it. But THEY can still create problems. Think, friends.

Please, if you have any respect for BM, Pips or yourself, do not dignify -them- with continuing dialogue. Respect his wishes - let it go for now.

SoulSurfer: a question for you.....which is more easily deceived, the eye or the heart?

Arcturus

SoulSurfer,

Let me be the first to respond to your question, unless with my 1 fingered typing, somebody else beats me to it.

I have met Bryan Marsden in person several times. I have asked him questions and looked him straight in the eye when he gave his answers, and I believed him. And I still do!

How many CEO’s of a scam or Ponzi scheme carry out a world tour or are available to ordinary members to meet in their offices. Not very many! How many even post contact details on their websites. Again not very many!

He could have walked away when GWPI failed, but did not. He could have walked away when PIPS and the associated companies were shut down, but did not.

Even though he has not posted for a while I think that is a good move on his part and to paraphrase another poster on this forum “No news is good news” and sometimes “silence is golden”. IMHO, he is still working for the PIPS members even though he is less visible than before.

Obviously time will tell and we will only find out what really happened when the results of the BNM investigation are published, if they ever are.

My name is not on the list as I believe that serves no purpose (only my opinion).

I have answered some of your questions and I would like to ask you respectfully to share your opinions as to why you appear to think that PIPS will not return.

I will respect your answers whether I agree or disagree with them and hopefully all members of this forum will act in the same manner. Then we can have a proper discussion without name calling, back stabbing etc. The beer drinkers and rum drinkers can hopefully sort out their differences without resorting to blackmail about leaving the pub, and even invite wine drinkers to participate in their happy place.

Cheers, from a happy wine drinker,
njbth

I notice that 2 replies have already been made so my first sentence about being the first to reply was out of date as soon as I posted. Never mind, if you still want to discuss it and post your feelings then I for 1 am willing to listen.

Deja Vu !!?? Didn't we have this discussion in another thread !!??

Silence is Golden .... The Sounds of Silence...........

We don't need to do anything now, but be Still. When a resolution comes, we will hear about it. We will all get the message - - it will be given to everyone.

The more we talk, the more we will stir things up. I know that's not intentional, but it happens.

What can we do? Pray, meditate, send your positive energy flow to Bryan. But as you're doing that, live and enjoy your life.

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Originally Posted by ArcturusI

It really takes a while to get my fires going.........

We have been asked to be silent for a time. BM himself has said that "when" and "if" there is anything to talk about, he will. Until then, consider it a waiting game.

I, myself, find it very curious as to why those who are sure it is dead and gone want your reasons why it isn't or shouldn't be. Do not feed their appetites of destruction and mayhem! Say nothing, do nothing. He has asked this on at least 8 different occasions in the past months. Let's all do everyone a big favor and drop it for a week or two (or three). All that is being done here is to keep everyone on edge and at each others throat. What can be done (with Pips) is being done. NOTHING you or I can do about it. But THEY can still create problems. Think, friends.

Please, if you have any respect for BM, Pips or yourself, do not dignify -them- with continuing dialogue. Respect his wishes - let it go for now.

SoulSurfer: a question for you.....which is more easily deceived, the eye or the heart?

Arcturus

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Arcturus,

I don't remember Bryan asking us to be silent, but I may have missed that post. Did you start the Humble thread before or after that request?

I find it curious that the humble threads have been locked at your request.
What happened to convince you to stop asking questions and searching for the truth? Do you know something we don't, and are scared to tell us?

I am also curious as to why the thread posted by Marek, titled something like breaking the ice, has disappeared totally, especially when he instructed his MODS to keep it open while he was away.

Something about calm waters but dangerous undercurrennt's come to mind.

njbth

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Persephone,

I misread your post and mistakenly read something into it that you did not say. I apologise for my remarks and have now removed them.

Arcturus1,

Thank you for pointing out my error. I agree that there was nothing offensive or foolish in pesephone's post but my reply was both. For that I apologise to all members of this forum, especially persephone.

I am guilty, NB, of not listening........in my hubris, I thought to help, not heeding the requests made of us members. That is something only I can answer for. Yes, it may have helped some, but it may have caused collateral damage as well. For that, I have regrets, but only of the method. I plead guilty as charged.

I cannot speak for the Admin or Mod's and what they do, as I am not one of them, nor am I in any way affiliated with ROLClub, other than as a member. I have made no public or official requests for the locking of any thread or moving of any information. It was not my doing, not my decision.

As for your last post, I believe caution is in order, as your chastisement should be personal as well. I see nothing offensive or foolish in Persephone's post.

Silence, friends, peace and rest. We ALL need it.

Arcturus

Arcturus

IMHO there is absolutely no reason for you to have any regret for creating the Humble Request thread. It was needed and has helped many to have a better understanding of the situation. I am certain that was your primary reason for starting it. You can’t be held responsible if information from the thread were to be used in an attempt to further create problems for Bryan Marsden. However, if you are now having serious concerns in that regard and I can fully appreciate why, then you are justified in modifying your position.
I am certain that I am one of many that is thankful for your efforts in this difficult task you undertook and look on you with respect.

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Originally Posted by persephone

What can we do? Pray, meditate, send your positive energy flow to Bryan. But as you're doing that, live and enjoy your life.

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Exactly. That says it all.:bow:

bburgess, thank you for your response. All good reasons and many stated before, but not so succinctly.

njbth, thank you also for your well thought out and articulate response. however i must decline to respond to your request to give reasons why pips will not come back; that is not what this thread is about, only positive reasons.

ArcturusI, methinks you sometimes see darkness and conspiracy where it doesn't exist. Sorry you have such a dim view of someone you don't know. I feel sorry for you. As to what gets fooled more easily, you know the answer to that and it's part of you MO.

I truly am NOT trying to stir things up or get people at each other, just honestly fascinated at the enduring trust & faith showed here. Obviously, no one need feel compelled to reply.

Wrong, again SS. I made an assumption once before with you, not again.

You know not of what you speak. Nor do you understand. Pity.

Vaya con Dios.

Arcturus

Persephone stated:

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What can we do? Pray, meditate, send your positive energy flow to Bryan. But as you're doing that, live and enjoy your life.

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As most of you have read in prior posts, I am now a "Cancer Survivor".
One of the factors in my victory is my ability to turn within and allow
for all things to be placed in divine order. This I have done with the
cancer & with PIPS. I am moving on with other things as I await word
from Bryan.

If whether or not PIPS will return has be come such a controling factor
in your life, that you are missing out on the rest of your life, then, turn
inward in "silence" and let everything be made right.

Send all that energy that is spent on debate be used as love & light
sent to Bryan & Sharon to strengthen them as they seek to restore to
all of us a grander version of PIPS.

Never desert your friends by engaging the detractors. It is just wasted energy.

Primeone

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Originally Posted by primeone

Never desert your friends by engaging the detractors. It is just wasted energy.

Primeone

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Well said, my friend, and god bless!

jjm

God bless you, PrimeOne!

And thank you for your words of wisdom!

Letting go of a fixation, whether it's about PIPS returning or your dislike of your daughter's boyfriend, or getting a job, or anything really, is sometimes exactly what's needed in order to have some good and dynamic energy flow into the situation. I have had this demonstrated to me more than once. The trick is really letting go....knowing that it's okay..
you won't be punished for letting go! Sometimes it's hard..we feel that if we don't hold onto tightly, then somehow we aren't being responsible. But that's not really the truth. We really need to let go.

Well, I'm preaching to myself right now since I've got my own money problems, but will try now to go put it into practice...once more.

Caroline

Unfortunately,the accountants at BNM will not be looking at pips with fond memories.They will be evaluating pips as a business.Either it is viable, or it is not.

Their decision alone will decide pips fate.:waiting:

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Originally Posted by primeone

Persephone stated:


As most of you have read in prior posts, I am now a "Cancer Survivor".
One of the factors in my victory is my ability to turn within and allow
for all things to be placed in divine order. This I have done with the
cancer & with PIPS. I am moving on with other things as I await word
from Bryan.

If whether or not PIPS will return has be come such a controling factor
in your life, that you are missing out on the rest of your life, then, turn
inward in "silence" and let everything be made right.

Send all that energy that is spent on debate be used as love & light
sent to Bryan & Sharon to strengthen them as they seek to restore to
all of us a grander version of PIPS.

Never desert your friends by engaging the detractors. It is just wasted energy.

Primeone

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THANK YOU FOR THAT WONDERFUL POST. I AM IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH YOU. AND AM SO HAPPY AND GLAD FOR YOUR BEATING CANCER. HOW SONDERFUL AND AWESOME IS OUR GOD.
IF ALL OF US WHO BELIEVE AS YOU DO BAND TOGETHER AND PROJECT OUR ENERGIES FOR THE GOOD OF ALL - HOW CAN WE LOS? POSITIVE THINKING AND POSITIVE ATTITUDES WORK WONDERS AND YOU HAVE PROVED THAT.
GOD BLESS YOU AND ALL PIPSTERS.
ANN

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It's no use asking why PIPS will be back or why it will not be back. At this moment we can only wait and it's no use to speculate. People choose to believe wether PIPS will be back or not. They simply believe, nobody can tell for sure what is going to happen at this moment, we are all in the same boat, positive minded and negative minded persons.
Questions like this are just asking for another debate which we have had enough already. Just wait and see, there really is nothing else you can do, oh yeah, there is something else you can do... go on with your live.

take care

jakvp

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Originally Posted by bburgess

PIPS will return due to:

1. PIPS was a legitmate business.
2. PIPS had a official office that any member could find.
3. The PIPS program was based on a group of actual businesses..PIPS reality etc....
4. Conventions were held and still in the planning for the future.
5. PIPS had a personal contact in BM.
6. PIPS was down before and came back to life.
7. BM has not run away. He posted recently in the HALotto form.
8. BN is still investigating PIPS. If it was a scam. Why are they still looking at it?
9. Many founders are still posting here with great confidence that PIPS will return. If PIPS was dead they would not waste their time.

Here are just a few reasons.

Brad

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Very well said Brad. my points are exact same. and above all i fully belive in BM that he will bring PIPS back.

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Originally Posted by Caroline

God bless you, PrimeOne!

And thank you for your words of wisdom!

Letting go of a fixation, whether it's about PIPS returning or your dislike of your daughter's boyfriend, or getting a job, or anything really, is sometimes exactly what's needed in order to have some good and dynamic energy flow into the situation. I have had this demonstrated to me more than once. The trick is really letting go....knowing that it's okay..
you won't be punished for letting go! Sometimes it's hard..we feel that if we don't hold onto tightly, then somehow we aren't being responsible. But that's not really the truth. We really need to let go.

Well, I'm preaching to myself right now since I've got my own money problems, but will try now to go put it into practice...once more.

Caroline

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Caroline, these are inspiring words which can be applied to many varied situations.

Thanks for making me think. (It had to happen some time):thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by ArcturusI

I am guilty, NB, of not listening........in my hubris, I thought to help, not heeding the requests made of us members. That is something only I can answer for. Yes, it may have helped some, but it may have caused collateral damage as well. For that, I have regrets, but only of the method. I plead guilty as charged.

I cannot speak for the Admin or Mod's and what they do, as I am not one of them, nor am I in any way affiliated with ROLClub, other than as a member. I have made no public or official requests for the locking of any thread or moving of any information. It was not my doing, not my decision.

As for your last post, I believe caution is in order, as your chastisement should be personal as well. I see nothing offensive or foolish in Persephone's post.

Silence, friends, peace and rest. We ALL need it.

Arcturus

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Arcturus1,

The intent of my post was not to charge you with any wrongdoing and make you plead guilty to anything. I enjoyed the "humble threads" and I am sad to see that they have been locked. I believe that I, and many other members, learned a lot or remembered why they joined PIPS due to the many postings, particularily from you.

I am not as eloquent as some people who post and what I try to say does not always come across as I intend it to. For that, I will plead guilty.

I was trying to get an answer to the following posted by Yogi:

"This show has ended and I will close this thrread after a short consultation with Arc a few minutes ago...I shall respect his humble departure on this subject."

No disrespect was intended and I hope none was taken. I do hope that you do not leave this forum and continue to post your words of wisdom.

Respectfully yours,
njbth

Okay. Not much point in continuing this thread. Seems that some are determined to make it about themselves, for reasons that are evident, or turn it into a “will return vs. will not” or “good vs. evil” debate. All I was asking for was a respectful “will return, because…” elaboration or discussion, without personal recriminations.

I appreciate the “reasons” already given, and will take them under advisement, as well as the sentiment that enough is enough already. Letting go of fixation, going within to greet the “other” sun and create a brighter “reality” is also great advice. Thank you for pointing that out, Primeone and Caroline, if you will forgive my paraphrasing.

Please return to calm waters and go in peace.

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Originally Posted by SoulSurfer

Okay. Not much point in continuing this thread. Seems that some are determined to make it about themselves, for reasons that are evident, or turn it into a “will return vs. will not” or “good vs. evil” debate. All I was asking for was a respectful “will return, because…” elaboration or discussion, without personal recriminations.

I appreciate the “reasons” already given, and will take them under advisement, as well as the sentiment that enough is enough already. Letting go of fixation, going within to greet the “other” sun and create a brighter “reality” is also great advice. Thank you for pointing that out, Primeone and Caroline, if you will forgive my paraphrasing.

Please return to calm waters and go in peace.

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What does it matter to you, how folks think? If the members of this forum have an internal belief, why do you feel the need to press on?

It seems you have a hidden agenda.. Searching for more data are you? :eek:

4D :party:

Well... think about the facts! How have the other HYIP's gone down? Most of them by the owner running off, or by some evil doings by the company, destoying all finacial accounts and being gone for ever. How long did their investigations take? Look it up! An investigation on a comapny that has some evil agenda is normally found out in days or weeks, or at most two months! (rare occasions)... How long has PIPS been down? It's been a year! If PIPS was wrong, it would have been publicized about 6 months ago, while the Investigation company and others (supposed RESPECTED AUTHORITIES) keep the millions of dollars for themselves. But his case is different...

So it's been a year... Some people may say it's been a bad year for PIPS... maybe financially for it's members, and it's founder... yes... But for PIPS it has been a great year! It's being tested, and so far nothing is wrong! (Otherwise we would have known long ago!) And if you don't believe me, ask your local finacial institution how long it would take to find out if a company is finacially corrupt... they will say days... and a Finacial Inquiry Institution like BNM, it would probably take hours (if there was evil in a company)...

But, after talking to lawyers and finacial advisors about this... they tell me that THE ONLY WAY it would take THIS long is if they are just holding the money for finacial gain... It's like arresting someone, the police can hold them for only a short period of time before letting them go (if no charges are filed against them)... The same thing is with money... They hold on to it until they can't hold on anymore... this could be 6 months - 3 years (depending on the country and the finacial laws in that part of the world)... All the time the money is sitting in account(s) yeilding interest to pay it's keepers...

Some of you may say this sounds like a conspiracy theory... so be it... all I say is look at the facts and ask the people that know about money and laws... But... if PIPS was wrong, we would have known long ago... and PIPS did not fail nor fall nor "go under"... it was stolen from Bryan and all of us!... and Bryan is still around doing his best in these dire circumstances...

PIPS WILL RETURN!

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Well... think about the facts! How have the other HYIP's gone down? Most of them by the owner running off, or by some evil doings by the company, destoying all finacial accounts and being gone for ever. How long did their investigations take? Look it up! An investigation on a comapny that has some evil agenda is normally found out in days or weeks, or at most two months! (rare occasions)... How long has PIPS been down? It's been a year! If PIPS was wrong, it would have been publicized about 6 months ago, while the Investigation company and others (supposed RESPECTED AUTHORITIES) keep the millions of dollars for themselves. But his case is different...

So it's been a year... Some people may say it's been a bad year for PIPS... maybe financially for it's members, and it's founder... yes... But for PIPS it has been a great year! It's being tested, and so far nothing is wrong! (Otherwise we would have known long ago!) And if you don't believe me, ask your local finacial institution how long it would take to find out if a company is finacially corrupt... they will say days... and a Finacial Inquiry Institution like BNM, it would probably take hours (if there was evil in a company)...

But, after talking to lawyers and finacial advisors about this... they tell me that THE ONLY WAY it would take THIS long is if they are just holding the money for finacial gain... It's like arresting someone, the police can hold them for only a short period of time before letting them go (if no charges are filed against them)... The same thing is with money... They hold on to it until they can't hold on anymore... this could be 6 months - 3 years (depending on the country and the finacial laws in that part of the world)... All the time the money is sitting in account(s) yeilding interest to pay it's keepers...

Some of you may say this sounds like a conspiracy theory... so be it... all I say is look at the facts and ask the people that know about money and laws... But... if PIPS was wrong, we would have known long ago... and PIPS did not fail nor fall nor "go under"... it was stolen from Bryan and all of us!... and Bryan is still around doing his best in these dire circumstances...

PIPS WILL RETURN!

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No Wonder you're a "Happy Guy" ! You're absolutely RIGHT !
Mike SHADES ON !

A good call ! HAPPY GUY ![B][/B]

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Originally Posted by Happy Guy

Well... think about the facts! How have the other HYIP's gone down? Most of them by the owner running off, or by some evil doings by the company, destoying all finacial accounts and being gone for ever. How long did their investigations take? Look it up! An investigation on a comapny that has some evil agenda is normally found out in days or weeks, or at most two months! (rare occasions)... How long has PIPS been down? It's been a year! If PIPS was wrong, it would have been publicized about 6 months ago, while the Investigation company and others (supposed RESPECTED AUTHORITIES) keep the millions of dollars for themselves. But his case is different...

So it's been a year... Some people may say it's been a bad year for PIPS... maybe financially for it's members, and it's founder... yes... But for PIPS it has been a great year! It's being tested, and so far nothing is wrong! (Otherwise we would have known long ago!) And if you don't believe me, ask your local finacial institution how long it would take to find out if a company is finacially corrupt... they will say days... and a Finacial Inquiry Institution like BNM, it would probably take hours (if there was evil in a company)...

But, after talking to lawyers and finacial advisors about this... they tell me that THE ONLY WAY it would take THIS long is if they are just holding the money for finacial gain... It's like arresting someone, the police can hold them for only a short period of time before letting them go (if no charges are filed against them)... The same thing is with money... They hold on to it until they can't hold on anymore... this could be 6 months - 3 years (depending on the country and the finacial laws in that part of the world)... All the time the money is sitting in account(s) yeilding interest to pay it's keepers...

Some of you may say this sounds like a conspiracy theory... so be it... all I say is look at the facts and ask the people that know about money and laws... But... if PIPS was wrong, we would have known long ago... and PIPS did not fail nor fall nor "go under"... it was stolen from Bryan and all of us!... and Bryan is still around doing his best in these dire circumstances...

PIPS WILL RETURN!

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Though i do not have much knowledge in this field but your post was a very good one. Hope Everything will work out for BM and he will bring PIPS back at the time of Xmas.

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Originally Posted by Happy Guy

Well... think about the facts! How have the other HYIP's gone down? Most of them by the owner running off, or by some evil doings by the company, destoying all finacial accounts and being gone for ever. How long did their investigations take? Look it up! An investigation on a comapny that has some evil agenda is normally found out in days or weeks, or at most two months! (rare occasions)... How long has PIPS been down? It's been a year! If PIPS was wrong, it would have been publicized about 6 months ago, while the Investigation company and others (supposed RESPECTED AUTHORITIES) keep the millions of dollars for themselves. But his case is different...

So it's been a year... Some people may say it's been a bad year for PIPS... maybe financially for it's members, and it's founder... yes... But for PIPS it has been a great year! It's being tested, and so far nothing is wrong! (Otherwise we would have known long ago!) And if you don't believe me, ask your local finacial institution how long it would take to find out if a company is finacially corrupt... they will say days... and a Finacial Inquiry Institution like BNM, it would probably take hours (if there was evil in a company)...

But, after talking to lawyers and finacial advisors about this... they tell me that THE ONLY WAY it would take THIS long is if they are just holding the money for finacial gain... It's like arresting someone, the police can hold them for only a short period of time before letting them go (if no charges are filed against them)... The same thing is with money... They hold on to it until they can't hold on anymore... this could be 6 months - 3 years (depending on the country and the finacial laws in that part of the world)... All the time the money is sitting in account(s) yeilding interest to pay it's keepers...

Some of you may say this sounds like a conspiracy theory... so be it... all I say is look at the facts and ask the people that know about money and laws... But... if PIPS was wrong, we would have known long ago... and PIPS did not fail nor fall nor "go under"... it was stolen from Bryan and all of us!... and Bryan is still around doing his best in these dire circumstances...

PIPS WILL RETURN!

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I FULLY AGREE WITH YOU.
An Excellent View.

pinetree

Just for the record Happy Guy its not a year yet.Pips was closed in August 2005.The 16th I think.:mad:

HAPPY GUY,

NICE ...... <"{{><

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Originally Posted by Dreamer

Just for the record Happy Guy its not a year yet.Pips was closed in August 2005.The 16th I think.:mad:

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Yeah I know... it was my birthday... but your right... I did round things out a little... but I guess if someone has to be critical about something, it can be about the time... lol

Thank you all for your kind respects to my post! Lord willing we will all make it through this with a new improved PIPS program with all our funds growing as freely as they were before (if not, more).

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Originally Posted by 4dataxman

What does it matter to you, how folks think? If the members of this forum have an internal belief, why do you feel the need to press on?

It seems you have a hidden agenda.. Searching for more data are you? :eek:

4D :party:

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SS:cool:
Even if you STATE that you don't intend to STIR up things...
The REASON given by you for starting this thread is just like stating:

"I'm SOOOO FACINATED to see the water pouring out of the TAP everytime I turn it on.....WOOOOWWW"
And when living in a modern apartment of today...
One would think of such a statement as SOO Facinating in itself that one...as 4D did ...start to WONDER...
If this person has been living here in this place for SOOO long...
seing all the WATER = "PRO statements.. WHY Believing in BM and PIPS"
that has been pouring OUT of the TAP...for YEARS...and still wants to
KNOW...why the water STILL comes out of the TAP...

I'll AGREE 4D

Something SMELLS here...:rolleyes:

SOO as sugessted by MANY...go out and have some FUN...
there 's even MORE WATERS Out there...in LIFE..:wink:

Just a Thought...

:cool: :smiley: Largo:smiley: :cool:

Pips...

As a member of it, splashing out thousands of dollars (that i didnt have - what money can a student make?) to become filthy rich after a certain amount of time, i think i have the right to state my opinion just like the rest have.

I trully think we have all been taken for a ride, a long one, then being taken out of the car and shot in the back of the head. Last time i checked, i still have $18 to my name. If BM really gave two shits about us, this would have been delt with months ago. Reality check BM, your full of crap and us poor bustards are still picking up the pieces.

If your reading this, your either thinking two things.

1) Damn, i think she's onto to something. Let me pour me another scotch so i dont have to think about her and overlook the views of blah blah blah.

or

2) I will get PIPS back online asap, spend thousands if not millions of dollars of top lawyers fees and prove to her and the rest that i wasn't lying to begin with and that they're dreams will come true in 1 month.

Stop giving us lies. We have had enough. Either be man enough to tell us you duped us or come up with our money in 1 month. Forget your new ventures and concentrate on the crap you forgot to flush.

A Stasia and its money are soon parted. JMO

Stasia, what if your option 2) would indeed be happening but
(i) needs more time than you apparently would like/want to believe
(ii) not visible for your eyes because it would be too vulnarable in the plain wide open?
I don't know this... but to me this is just as much an open option as the negative one... (and... Soulsurfer... this is still one of many reasons why i still believe pips not will (wrong question) but can come back ;)) ...
Meaning... although you may have enough, which I can understand, this still leaves as open the possibility that
BM doesn't need to stop giving us lies (as he wouldn't be lying)...
BM doesn't need to be man enough to tell us what you expect to be the truth (because there would be more important work to be done that could make what you ask of Bryan significantly less relevant)
BM really needs time (and then asking a solution in one month based on zero knowledge of what's happening... is kind of funny)
BM's new ventures might carry your very own solution in them (so be careful flushing them).
I understand that the current situation is hard to handle, but than maybe it's better to 'let it be'... move on and wait for... nobody knows when... an update mail from admin who'll sure will keep his rolclub members informed.
Take care,
Hasse

Well, one thing Bryan can’t complain about is time, he has it since December 2004. After one year and half of him “diligently doing his work” (as one of the members described), we should soon expect an explosion of perfection and abundance. Can’t wait to finally see Bryan’s frutition.

Well I for one ... Do believe that Pips will be back .. Never had any dote in my mind at all ... It takes time to rebuild something that was tainted with so many rotten apples ..
We all want to have something solid and I do believe this is what Bryan is doing ...