BM's Update And How It Applies!!!

Once Mother Theresa was asked “Are you against war� and her very wise answer was “I am for Peace�

She knew the spiritual truth/science of it all and was not “resisting war� but agreed with peace. The power of “UNITY� brings “MIRACULOUS RESULTS�

United we stand - Divided we fall, so could we all agree to do what is necessary from our part to help turn this situation around for us all.

We have the power as a “united group�.

Why would you/we kill the “goose that lays our golden eggs� the future is in our hands.
Some people believe that the future is in BM’s hands but in reality it is in our own hands.

Do you think it is possible for the P*ps Members to get behind their own businesses.

It is very important for all P*ps Members to decide now how we are going to apply the news BM gives us in his update. We can all decide now to get into "unity" and behind all that B M has to do to get us all there.............we have it in our power to choose to be "for him" or "against all that he does." And of course, this means we are ultimately against ourselves.

I hear people says on this forum that they will not support P*psAid and what they are really saying is that they are not supporting what is their own business. Pretty amazing!!!

All the P*ps Programs are very cleverly set up to work together and this most certainly includes the P*psA*d as a matter of fact “You can’t have one without the other� so it would be “good� for us to get behind all that P*ps is doing , BM and the P*ps Programs that we are all involved in.

I will say it again - Do you think it is possible for the P*ps Members to get behind their own businesses? (Their own income producing P*ps project….their goose that laid their golden egg) We would think that it should be easy, don’t we? That we could be "for ourselves" as well as others!!!!

There is a “science to getting rich� and one of the laws/codes for becoming rich and to attract good things to yourself is.

“NOT TO RESIST�

For what you “RESIST� will “RESIST YOU�
The Law that applies here is What you resist you will never get!!!

So the truth of the matter is “You are the problem� or collectively “We the members “who resist� at every turn what is happening or what BM is doing are the ones who help to “destroy our own bread and butter�.

Can you/we understand that? You/we are the enemy if we “resist�.

It is really imperative that we get the education; otherwise we will not be able to manage
The money that is coming from your P*ps Program business.

A good site to visit if you haven’t already done so is:-

http://www.thescienceofgettingrich.com/

I would like to think that everyone would seek to know and understand this knowledge as it would mean that their lives would change for the better, but sadly the truth is that some people choose to stay the same by resisting even the knowledge that could give them Miraculous changes and results to their lives.

Funnily enough for most of my life I have said “that it is what you don’t know that hurts you� and this is so, but there is another side to it and that is “It is what you think you know "to be true" and "AIN’T" that really hurts you.�

I wish for you/us all wholeness and great prosperity in all that you/we do.

I am “for� all the P*ps Programs, including P*psA*d, BM and all my fellow members to be successful in everything that they put their hands to.

Challenge can bring changes and it is up to us to rise to the challenges we are facing and choose to become “a better personâ€Â� but, of course we can choose to become a “bitter Personâ€Â� It is all in our hands………………â⠂¬Â¦Ã¢â‚¬Â¦..what is your/our choice going to be?

thank you thank you thank you.. and when you are done reading that go get the science of being well..
wonderful books and websites.. you will greatly enjoy them and hopefully it will bring you peace.

I would rather have this prayer:

"Lord, give me the courage to change what I can change, and the courage to accept those that I cannot change."

8) Very good post Ace88, good timing, hope i can apply it :lol:

greets

Necromancer

ace888............I dig your post.......a lot! 8)

Great post, it says exactly what I've been thinking for a long time... Having a lot of money or attracting a lot of money always requires a certain "wealth consciousness". If unconciously there is a resistance against money or abundance in any way, you will not get it. You will be like many lottery winners, loosing everything very quickly or getting into big trouble. Or be like most other people wanting to be rich but unconciously resisting it, and therefore doing things, without even know it, to stop you from getting what you want. Or not doing things to get what you want.

I have talked to Bryan about this when I met him in Amsterdam last year. He certainly was very aware of this, but seemed to have a plan for this. He said it wouldn't help to put education (like 'The Science Of Getting Rich') on the website because most people wouldn't read it. He said it would require one-on-one coaching to help people change to be able to deal with those amounts of money. How he is going to realise that, I don't know (there was no time at that moment to go into that subject deeper, but I'll talk to him about it further when I meet him in about 1,5 months). I think that's why he wanted to keep the forum alive for as long as possible... he has a vision of a community of people really communicating and helping each other.. on line, and off line, in the pips bistros and coffee houses... I think there's much still to come, many great things - If we stand all behind him and support him in anything that he does. Together we can achieve a lot, he can't do it on his own. And all he needs is our unconditional support. That's not a lot to ask I think. We don't have to deal with banks, authorities etc...

I've got 'The Science Of Getting Rich' downloaded on my computer. I'm going to read it now!

ace888, wim,... may this force be with you :D

We have among us MANY, that seeks the far sightedness of HUGE aspirations and GOALS while fundamentally, when they expose themselves through their exalted revulsions, the truth of their evident short sightedness...gives them away openly!

A sad LOT we can all say about them and lets hope, they can still be saved by our compassion for their lack of patience and deepened guilt they bring along with them...but we have room to accomodate the less fortunate...WE ALWAYS HAVE and WE SHALL ALWAYS... by our belief that PIPSAid is a way and light coming from that beacon...BM himself. :wink:

YB.

Thank you...........

Truepipster
ET
Necromancer
Colsy
Wim
Hasse
YogiBrood

Thank you for your comments to my post, I appreciate your contributions,
all the thoughts and inspirations that you have added. We all hold a little piece of the whole "picture puzzle of life" and when we put those peices together, we can see and know more clearly of the great plan for us all.

Standing with you all in agreement concerning the "brightest of futures" for ourselves and all P*psters everywhere.

ace888

YES.

Just adding my "aye" to the pile cause the main stuff has already been said and I agree.

So good to see such a powerful, deep, connected, full soul expression with regards to the situation. THANK YOU ace888.

I have felt for quite a while BM has really got his work cut out for him... not raising money for Pxpsters, but changing people's money conciousness. He is almost single handedly trying to drag large numbers of money-poor conciousness people over into the money rich conciousness side. It's a real inner battle.

The blocks that have manifested in 3D are easy to spot and I trace them back to every single one of us.

When I do my "hope and pray" that WDs will pick up: I focus on ALL pxpsters having the STRENGTH to handle abundance... that we all conqueror our fear of SUCCESS. That we all collectively each find our own way to SURRENDER to the fact that we are put on this Earth to enjoy and have full financial ABUNDANCE.

It is the way it is suppose to be; drop the guilt. Surrendering to what is suppose to be is one of the best ways I have found to release BLOCKS.

You/we are suppose to succeed... you/we may as well give up and accept it.

Peace

StarGirl

Wonderful addition StarGirl! Couldn't agree more.

another great read is by American author Joe Vitale called The Attractor Factor, you can find it at Amazon

I've ordered it. I've read the previous edition of the book, called 'Spiritual Marketing', which he updated and revised to become 'The Attractor Factor'. It has beaten Harry Potter on the Barnes and Nobles bestselling list (first book to do that since Harry Potter came out!)
http://mrfire.com/WeBeatHarryPotter/index.html

It's selling like crazy... I've got a feeling this book will change a lot of people's consciousness and awaken some real wealth consciousness with millions of people!

Certainly recommended for P*psters, I'd say! Maybe some merchant should offer it on Picpay?!

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We can all decide now to get into "unity" and behind all that B M has to do to get us all there

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Can you sound more like a secte please!! :roll: Yes let's all follow like blind fools!! I'm sorry I cannot share your point of view.

But well written though :wink:

Well there will always be selfish greedy people in the world. Alot of them were attracted to pips because of what it would do for them. Sad to see that with the money they would just spend all of it probably on meaningless items that would just make them feel rich for that moment. The second the money stream is cut off they ***** like a girl on her period. Thats why most of the lotto winners end up broke after awhile. Most dont have a damn clue how money works or how to handle it. They just know how to spend as much as they get and thats why there's always people working for others making others rich. Rich stay rich, poor stay poor. To bad huh, don't try to pretend to be rich because you gotta earn it, not let someone else earn that success for you. Most of the people who have recieved their money back, and are just *****ing just because they cant live the lifestyle that someone else was earning for them, dont deserve it at all. I can atleast understand some of the people who've not gotten what they put in. I don't know why some people even leveraged their house, or took out loans for this. I guess greed is the greatest sin.

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Well there will always be selfish greedy people in the world. Alot of them were attracted to pips because of what it would do for them. Sad to see that with the money they would just spend all of it probably on meaningless items that would just make them feel rich for that moment. The second the money stream is cut off they ***** like a girl on her period. Thats why most of the lotto winners end up broke after awhile. Most dont have a damn clue how money works or how to handle it. They just know how to spend as much as they get and thats why there's always people working for others making others rich. Rich stay rich, poor stay poor. To bad huh, don't try to pretend to be rich because you gotta earn it, not let someone else earn that success for you. Most of the people who have recieved their money back, and are just *****ing just because they cant live the lifestyle that someone else was earning for them, dont deserve it at all. I can atleast understand some of the people who've not gotten what they put in. I don't know why some people even leveraged their house, or took out loans for this. I guess greed is the greatest sin.

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I joined PIPS after watching it for six months through the PIPS forum. I joined because I was led to believe by the postings on the forum and the information on the website, that I would get 2% per trading day returned to me, if I was prepared to loan PIPS some money.

As far as I was concerned that was a deal between me and PIPS. I have honored my part of the deal by loaning PIPS my money. PIPS have failed to deliver on their side of the bargain, so far.

It is not a case of greed. It was purely a case of economics that made me loan PIPS the money. Just like with the high street banks, I will place my money with the bank that provides the highest return.

If the banks can't or won't repay me my money, then I have a legitimate right to be told why - truthfully, what is being done to correct the problem and when I can expect the problem to be resolved. The same applies here, with PIPS.

What people spend their money on, is entirely their own business. It may be frivolous "meaningless items" to the likes of you, but the money spent provides profit, which pays someones wages, which puts food on the table for a family.

So please don't try and stand on the moral high ground and feed me with a load of claptrap about greed. It doesn't wash because it doesn't apply.

Who DaMan,

Speak for yourself!!!


I had a list of people whom I wanted to help when I did well myself, That should and would have been one of the joys of PIPS,the giving to others less well off, it made me feel very good at the time, but that was a while ago when I like many was dreaming about all those whom I could help.

I was not looking for jewels, furs, fast cars etc but maybe helping our local hospice, buying a holiday home for underpriviligeded kids and teachng them to ride horses and have animals and along the way Iwould have had a better purpose in life I like many of us do not have the funds to pay for charitiable projects but had PIPS paid off then we would have.

So don't accuse me and others of being greedy if you don't mind. I have met many British members who are very altruistic ,PIPS Uk has six charities that are supported by the funding and have done loads to help others so stop talking such unmitigated tripe.

I am sick of those in denial always flaming the others who just want answers to reasonable questions. Those who read my posts know that I am always very reasonable with my language and thoughts but this posting has really angered me because it simply is not true of the folk whom I have met in the UK.

Galadriel

Well said, Galadriel! Couldn't agree more - but then I'm a Brit too!

Well said galadriel... Many of us wanted to do more for others not just ourselves. I for one was looking forward to putting a lot of money in the hands of the "little guys" for once. I believe that would create a unique dynamic in the world of finance... and since "money is power"... we might be able to get a few good changes happening throughout the world.

I may be on the U.S. side of the pond... but I still understand the word "altruistic" :lol: (although I must admit - I'm glad you spelled it first)

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Who DaMan,

Speak for yourself!!!


I had a list of people whom I wanted to help when I did well myself, That should and would have been one of the joys of PIPS,the giving to others less well off, it made me feel very good at the time, but that was a while ago when I like many was dreaming about all those whom I could help.

I was not looking for jewels, furs, fast cars etc but maybe helping our local hospice, buying a holiday home for underpriviligeded kids and teachng them to ride horses and have animals and along the way Iwould have had a better purpose in life I like many of us do not have the funds to pay for charitiable projects but had PIPS paid off then we would have.

So don't accuse me and others of being greedy if you don't mind. I have met many British members who are very altruistic ,PIPS Uk has six charities that are supported by the funding and have done loads to help others so stop talking such unmitigated tripe.

I am sick of those in denial always flaming the others who just want answers to reasonable questions. Those who read my posts know that I am always very reasonable with my language and thoughts but this posting has really angered me because it simply is not true of the folk whom I have met in the UK.

Galadriel

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hahaha, yeah ok sure there. I don't know about you, but I didnt see your name in my post or do you think that from me saying there will always be greedy people in the world, that it attributes to you and your little group of people who are running charities. And those sick in denial of WHAT? I could care less if you get angry, I didnt direct it at you or your group. You know, a little here and there to charity helps. Not waiting for large lump sums to do all those things. Most people always say and dream of doing what you said, but the thing is they always wait on someone else to help them achieve their dream or goal and usually it doesnt happen and they keep postponing what they plan to do and its because something else or someone else didnt make THEIR dream come true. Your intentions are good, but I never directed the post at you, so dont try to claim that i did, unless you're in denial and fit what I said about greedy people.

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Well there will always be selfish greedy people in the world. Alot of them were attracted to pips because of what it would do for them. Sad to see that with the money they would just spend all of it probably on meaningless items that would just make them feel rich for that moment. The second the money stream is cut off they ***** like a girl on her period. Thats why most of the lotto winners end up broke after awhile. Most dont have a damn clue how money works or how to handle it. They just know how to spend as much as they get and thats why there's always people working for others making others rich. Rich stay rich, poor stay poor. To bad huh, don't try to pretend to be rich because you gotta earn it, not let someone else earn that success for you. Most of the people who have recieved their money back, and are just *****ing just because they cant live the lifestyle that someone else was earning for them, dont deserve it at all. I can atleast understand some of the people who've not gotten what they put in. I don't know why some people even leveraged their house, or took out loans for this. I guess greed is the greatest sin.

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I joined PIPS after watching it for six months through the PIPS forum. I joined because I was led to believe by the postings on the forum and the information on the website, that I would get 2% per trading day returned to me, if I was prepared to loan PIPS some money.

As far as I was concerned that was a deal between me and PIPS. I have honored my part of the deal by loaning PIPS my money. PIPS have failed to deliver on their side of the bargain, so far.

It is not a case of greed. It was purely a case of economics that made me loan PIPS the money. Just like with the high street banks, I will place my money with the bank that provides the highest return.

If the banks can't or won't repay me my money, then I have a legitimate right to be told why - truthfully, what is being done to correct the problem and when I can expect the problem to be resolved. The same applies here, with PIPS.

What people spend their money on, is entirely their own business. It may be frivolous "meaningless items" to the likes of you, but the money spent provides profit, which pays someones wages, which puts food on the table for a family.

So please don't try and stand on the moral high ground and feed me with a load of claptrap about greed. It doesn't wash because it doesn't apply.

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6 months of watching and you thought there was a guarantee? I'd have thought you would have picked up on more things during that 6 months. A case of economics? ok..... how so? Kinda seems like you don't know much on the financial sector. I don't care what people spend their money on, I was simply stating that a high number of people joining pips, joined out of greed. Its common sense. People leverage larger amounts to get more because putting in what they can afford will only give alittle bit. Since they want the most for doing the least, they will try to leverage because they believed that they will recieve so much after this period of time, than after their loan is done, its just large amounts of cash for them. Feed you with a load of claptrap? ha, more like reality.

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You haven't comprehended what you've read as I made no mention of guarantees. You are fantasising, significantly weakening your "reality" claim.

Some people are smarter than other :wink:

Dear ace888,
Thank you for your post. I would advise you to ignore those who have apparently already written PIPS off. I, for one, have not, and will not. I have been in this for almost two years now (from inception) and I have observed Bryan and crew through some very heavy waters. They have ALWAYS come through with flying colors. I am sure if they cannot do it this time it will NOT be their fault. Bryan has said repeatedly that there are many factors in the pie and he has to work through all of them to get to his goal-a secure financial future for all of us.
Also, I wanted to point out something. There is the power of agreement. It is a spiritual term from the Bible, but works very well in the temporal and business world. Jesus said, "If two or three are gathered together in My name believing, it shall be done." A friend and I just yesterday applied this principle when agreeing for the success of PIPs and we adamantly believe that our prayers will be heard and answered.
If you are not a Christian believer, this will still work for you by agreeing together that something will be. It's a principle, not a religion.

Thanks again.

HURRAH FOR BRYAN!!

hzchoice

You have a good heart there Hzchoice and it is already rewarded by your faith and strong belief, I share & relate your convictions too... :D :wink:

YB.

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6 months of watching and you thought there was a guarantee?

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You haven't comprehended what you've read as I made no mention of guarantees. You are fantasising, significantly weakening your "reality" claim.

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Maybe you haven't even comprehended what you've wrote. You don't need to mention the guarantees in word in what you wrote. Fantasizing about what? You seem to be in some wacko reality where you try to come off as somewhat intelligent. No offense.

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6 months of watching and you thought there was a guarantee?

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You haven't comprehended what you've read as I made no mention of guarantees. You are fantasising, significantly weakening your "reality" claim.

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Maybe you haven't even comprehended what you've wrote. You don't need to mention the guarantees in word in what you wrote. Fantasizing about what? You seem to be in some wacko reality where you try to come off as somewhat intelligent. No offense.

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Fantasising that I was expecting guarantees. I wasn't and that is still the case, so please, read it as it is written.

If no offense is meant, writing it in the first place is unintelligent.

Come on guys, calm down.

We are all getting a little edgy, and it is not helped by having no communication from BM or his team.

I am from the UK and joined for the same reason as many of you - I need a hand with my financial security having been forced to take early ill health retirement from work, and the thought of having to rely on the Government for support fills me with horror.

I have invested in a number of things, P*Ps being just one, but I did think that this would be the honest program as it seemed to have 000's of good, honest members working together as a team to generate an income for whatever the motive.

However, over the last six months, this program, like so many in the past, has shown very clear indications of going bad on its members. The problem is this turn of events is not helped by the sudden disappearance of the CEO and the many rumours that seem to abound.

Whatever you think and hope for, the only real truth that we have is that nobody has been paid any significant amount for over 6 months now, and those of us who withdrew funds from P*PIS into P*ICPAY, thus losing all future interest and no longer being a part of any loan, are still not receiving their interest payments, inspite of our loan being accepted by P*PS, and payment being made to us for the benefit of it.

All we can do is sit and wait - Sending abuse across the forum is certainly not helpful and will not persuade BM to change his attitude towards us.

So come on, wash your hands, and let's start again.

Peter

From what I have seen recently everyone wants to hold Bryan to it if he says he is hoping for good news by the end of the week. I even saw a "countdown" going on somewhere arguing about the number of hours until the end of the week for crying out loud!

Maybe he had a promise from someone that they would let him have some good news by the end of the week and in the end they needed a bit more time? There is as they say "many a slip 'twixt cup and lip!"

All I know is that Bryan is no quitter and he will overcome all the problems that have been thrown in his way by the Banks who have to comply with all sorts of new legislation as a result of terrorism, money laundering and other International crime.

From what I have heard some of these compliance regulations are not even that well understood by the Banks themselves so small wonder if they take a cautious view on something as radical as Pips especially when the volumes are so big.

After all they don't need the fees for doing the transfers, but equally they don't need their knuckles rapped for non-compliance either.

There are some new faces in the office now and I suspect that some have the task of correcting errors that may have been made in the past and this may involve rolling back to a point where it was all "clean" beyond doubt, a bit like doing a Windows System Restore maybe.

I think we should just stop all the speculation and give Bryan and his team the time he needs to repair the problems properly and not just with gaffer tape to please us:)

After all if you believe in Bryan then you don't have a problem except maybe in the short run, but if you don't believe then you do have a problem and maybe its best to move on and just look at the site once in a while to see how it is all going?

All of us made our decisions to "loan or not to loan" as a bit of a leap of faith and presumably were all prudent enough to only speculate what we would happily lose on a horse race so why the big hurry?

Or is it perhaps those members who ignored that advice who are making all the wild talk?

Grace has given the best advice. Faith will achieve the right result, worrying will achieve nothing.

Time will tell :)


MichaelR

Thank you MichaelR for your insight and calm over the few frenzied clubbers we have here too. :D

YB.

Michaelr,

I agree with you for the most part, however, many members including myself have been waiting patiently for months now to see some sort of progress moving forward. Unfortunetly the events that have happened in the last couple of months have lead so many to be concerned with the promises that have not been kept, whether they are in Bryans control or not.
So many lights of hope are slowly being squashed out by the lack of communication from BM.
I must be one of those rare individuals that expect when someone says they will do something, they do it.
How hard would it be for BM to post SOMETHING!
Even if the message wasn't what we all wanted to hear, a courtesy message from him would have gone a long way.

Lack of Communication causes speculation. What on earth do you expect from members when they hear nothing??

Having said that, I hope that BM comes through. I still stand behind him and hope that we hear something this week!

After all we all have come this far!!!!!

I very much enjoyed this entire post.

I have to admit most likly why I joined PIP's could have been and could have very likly been greed. I don't like to say that buy yet just like the good book say's the trueth shall set you free.

My attitude has taken a extensive large turn around since I have been a PIP's member beginnin in OCT 04. I've became much more spiritual. I've became alot more willing to help others. While also, I've always had the dream and ambition to create and develop a community of people and wealth group of non selfish individuals that put others infront of their own needs. While also this community would have the ability to live in content and happy fullfilled lives. Honestly, I have to say some of the happiest people on this earth are not rich they live their complete life without ever owning a brand new car or even anything new. I've been lucky enough in my life to buy 1 new car years ago. I took accounting in school so I could learn how to manage money yet their is alot more to it other then proper book keeping. I realize that.

Even though my own life has changed dramaticly it has changed some but not much. I'm still having problems getting all the bills paid. Yet, thanks to Gods will at least my wife is doing better. My kids still don't have much but thanks to the PIP's community of members that have helped me. At least they have a bed and a roof over their head. In reality, that is all I can ask for. I'm just hoping in Gods will that it is in my destiny to keep that roof. In addition, to fullfill my dream to helping others and revamping the banking, morgage and lending industry. Stop bank greed. I wrote a 15 page paper on finance and loans in colege. My professor loved it. In addition, their was not one single student out of the 30 in my class that did not enjoy my presentation. Each student asked me 1 question. When are you going to get started. Honestly, my lending plan is so technical and ethical that it requires alot of capital to start. Yet, if I started small I would lose out to the big guys. If the Big guys did not start revamping their own lending policies into mine then they would go out of business.

Main and ethical point to my business plan. Consumers respond to incentives. So base a lending system upon that concept that gives consumers and incentive to pay their morgage. I'm talking a greater incentive other then just actually owning somthing after the balance has been paid.
Other ethical point to my business plan. The amount of bankrupties filed each year is increasing and the banks U.S banks really do not care because they have enough in reserves to keep themselves safe. Even if every exsisting loan turned bad they would still be financially strong. My business plan takes the concept and does care.
Mayby that is asking to much I do not know. Yet, any and I mean any consumer no matter what their credit rating is they could get a loan. Just the consumers with a credit rating lower then 500 would need a greater incentive then the consumer with a 800 credit rating.

If someone would like to talk to me about this without taking my plan from me let me know. I was planing on financing this endevor with my PIP's profits. Then distrubute the profits out to a community of members just in the same as PIP's is trying to do.

Yet one thing. I have realized I have to be able to help myself before I can help others.

Good luck to all and my God guide you all in all your endevors.