I will tell you all right here that this will not be a "normal" post for me. Here, we will discuss Honor and Integrity. Here, we will call into question the Honor and Integrity of many RolClub members and guests. Here, we will demonstrate the difference between Honor and Integrity, and Predjudice and Cowardice.
[A personal note: It is too bad that the Mod's have seen fit to delete smile555's / dogman / whatever else he wants to go by before I could read it. I would very much like to see what and how he would answer, considering that none of his arguments are based in any kind of logic and reason, and have more to do with his ego than reality. But, I digress.......]
I do not need to name anyone specifically, since we all know who I am speaking about, but there are those who have stepped up their collective attacks on the gentle members of Pips, as well as BM and others. Recently, they have even gone so far as to question those who signed up as moderators on the new platform. Now, I have some differences of opinion with some of those named, but that has nothing to do with my own personal position.
Many of you are looking for conspiracy. Many think that they have found it. Let me remind you of a couple of points. WW was highly critical of BM when he was "told to go play in his own sandbox", and he lamented the fact that money was being spent on certain programs with what he insinuated was recless abandon. If you will recall, he thanked BM and Sharon for being such good people and presenting him with this opportunity, then he lambasted them for squandering the business and making poor decisions. He also said that he offered suggestions and corrective actions and was effectively turned away by BM. Now, after August, you all know what came out of that mouth. Who hired WW, and to whom did he report? Think on that.
Then, you had some programming issues. You also had a bank deal which was initially funded that went away. It just disappeared. Who was supposed to be guarding that gate? BM? Guess again. Every corporation has a defined hierarchy, and, when you put individuals in positions to accomplish certain things, you have an expectation of performance. When that performance turns out to be less than what was presented, or expected, there are issues that go beyond 'doing ones job'. While the work of global coordination and support was being accomplished, what was really happening back at the ranch? Just what was being done about daily activities? Where are the fingers being pointed, and where should they be pointed (if at all?) The point being is that very few know what REALLY happened, and the ones who are busy here (and other places) screaming the loudest are doing so for no apparant purpose except to stroke their own Ego.
Can you truly say, Mr/Ms Conspiracy Theorist, that your careful thought and reason has led you to a defendable conclusion? That you have some insight into Pips and the Human Condition that all others lack? Try as I might, I cannot draw your conclusions. Trust? If you don't trust Pips or BM, that is your perrogative. I, for one, didn't get involved because I "trusted". I got involved because it seemed like a good thing to do. My Honor will not allow me to immediately see the bad in a person, or brand them unconditionally, and my Integrity will not allow me to jump on any bandwagon or strike when ones back is turned. There are those, on the other hand, who have no such restriction. They have no such discipline. That is TRUE predjudice, and the epitomy of cowardice. There are those who rant and rave from the shadows because they fear the light of day. There are those who will NEVER be satisfied until ALL goes their way. Let me enlighten you before it's too late. It will NEVER go your way. YOU (nor I) is in a position to run the show. Do not tell me what is best for me when you are blinded by your own ignorance and predjudice. Do not presume to be better than another here. Whether you want to be called a 'cheerleader' or a 'naysayer' is your own choice. I call no one either.
Then, you actually deem yourself righteous in your demands that BM communicate with you, and, when ANY communication is forthcoming, your dare to criticize the method, and the message. Why don't you say what you really want? BM, PROVE to me that I will get what I WANT. It has nothing to do with reality. It is what you WANT. Try as you might, by cloaking this in arguments of "invested in...." and "just want the truth....", you are not so much interested in wanting as getting. As ye sow........ You will get what you deserve. That I truly BELIEVE. And I have FAITH it will happen.
Anyone can take shots from the outside. There is no Honor in that. You have already decided that BM has no Honor, that he is somehow reveling in misleading you and blowing all "your" money. How sad you are. I am not cheering, nor am I complaining. I am simply waiting. I am taking each day, one at a time, as a gift. For the individual who went away for a bit, and is now back and as bitter as ever, I suggest you either find peace somewhere or cork it. You are creating enemies and hardship for yourself, and they are ALL in your own mind. I have nothing but pity for you.
Now, to all of those who do really want to hear what went on, to hear the truth.....you may have to wait a bit. I don't think that even if BMN was finished and had their report you would get "the truth." It will be a long time coming, in several forms, I am sure. Suffice it to say that we all will learn, eventually, what took place. 'Eventually' has yet to be defined. As members, we have the right to know. But only BM has the right and knowledge to tell us. Continue to ask your questions, but do not lose heart if the answers are not yet forthcoming. All in good time.
I will not even dignify the "billions of dollars" and "billion dollar corporation" posts with an answer. Use your brains! You sound like a 5 year old. This has led to the statements of the banking industry, and similar conspiracies wrapped around governments and money. IF you would do some homework, and IF you would take the time to understand the political issues, you would UNDERSTAND that banks are no longer interested in selling money or supporting those business activities that built the world system. Banks are only interested in holding and making money. They have a REAL interest in making sure that as few as possible are able to "make it." If you don't believe me, just read about the Federal Reserve system and why the world monetary policies are in turmoil right now. Read about the "logic" behind the Euro. THEN come and debate with my your banking conspiracies. Do you think for one minute that those that have (a LOT) want to open the doors to all of those who have not? Get real. BM offered (and still is) an opportunity to open a door that 99% of you will never even find, let alone have opened to you. He has offered you a chance to share. There are those forces that don't want this to happen. And then there are those who just want BM and Pips to fail. For what purpose, I'll never know since I don't understand that type of predjudice, that type of hatred and evil.
You wonder loudly why some of the Pioneers and "older" Pipsters are hanging on. The math is pretty simple on this one. They have seen hardships in the program, and they have seen the fixes. This particular hardship has been protracted due to a small minority who do not want the program to come back, and will stop at nothing to see it shut down. IF there were definite crimes committed, it would have been over long ago. This has been so close to restart it would make your head spin. But, once it gets close, those who should really be the target of your cynacism, of your ire, get busy and shut it down due to: Their own Greed, their own Ego's, and their own Enmity. Look at the recent example of the HALotto. Just because you couldn't log on, you assume it's broken, inept, and corrupt. Sometimes, it just amazes me......
So, if you wish to spend your time criticizing and throwing stones, that is your right. Find yourself a new place or room in this forum to do so. I'm sure the Mod's would be happy to open a new playground for you to ****. In fact, I believe they already have. Of course, those to whom I speak don't care about what we are discussing, and would rather spend their time abusing others rather that discussing in a rational manner.
Present your arguments for and against. I am open to your logic. But I don't answer to "Because". You don't know. I don't know. But I'll bet you I know more than you think. AND I'll bet you I'm closer than you are to what is. Why? Because I have an inside track? No. It's because I read, pay attention, and I think for myself. I don't pick on those who don't agree with me, I present my argument. What you do with it, is your business. Just don't bore me with this continued ignorance and nonsensical writings based on emotion and conjecture. Provide support for your arguments. If you think that it won't come back, demonstrate why. If you think that BM is dishonorable, present your evidence. Unless or until you can do this, all you are doing is wasting valuable time and space, and being unnecessarily cruel for purposes I don't want to know.
Will Pips come back? My answer is yes. Reason? So many are fighting against it, the money didn't just disappear, BM is still actively working the system, and BNM hasn't found credible, actual fraud or willful, malicious activities on the part of BM. Also, I know Pioneers who know BM personally who vouch for his character. To date, BM has done nothing to me personally. I do not know the man myself, therefore I will not judge his character. I WOULD have done some things differently, but that is from the outside looking in. When I do something in business, it makes sense at the time. Hindsight is 20/20. I don't do things deliberately to p*ss people off, or to confuse. I don't see BM as being the kind to do this either.
So, question your own Honor and Integrity before you attack mine, and question that of one Bryan Marsden. Look to your own house before criticizing the neighbors. All is not as it seems in your life, mine, and with Pips.
It is true that every time we get close, every time a forward step is taken, the voices of derision and negativity, not to mention envy and abuse, start speaking louder. Seems the only time that you guys go off on your tangents is when things are looking good.......... Hmmmmmmmm...... I challenge you to put THAT in your Conspiracy Pipe and smoke it.
Arcturus
