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Originally Posted by morrispark
Funny, to be sure. So we all know for a fact HA Lotto is licensed by the Anjouan authorities? I didn't see a citation of the registered agent? ....Sorry, thinking out loud again..... :cheers:
I can't see what problems would be caused by simply
stating that the money is there and safe.
I agree with this statement very much. And who is to say that once the lotto is up that the same servers that drive the lotto will not drive Pips like the old Pipsaid.com????? Remember that side menu? Every time Bryan says something positive about Pips coming back, he is attacked about the time. If something out of his immediate control goes wrong, he is bashed for it. If I were Bryan, I wouldn't be saying to much at the moment about Pips either. First things first. Bryan has elected to take matters in his own hands and not rely on others. So what if it takes longer? At least he is still in there working for all of us members. Give the man some credit and get off his back.Quote:
Originally Posted by everwiser
Yes I noticed that.There are postings on other forums asking the same question.Quote:
Originally Posted by whatever
Right on Everwiser! Mmm got to love them Prozac. :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by everwiser
It seems every now and then, 7 months worth. We comeback to the same roundabout. Like a lost hiker that keeps on going in circles. Round and round and round....etc until he plops down and dies of exhaustion.
I'm like you. I WANT to know, I NEED the money. Where is my MONEY! The crux of it is this right? 5 letter word that starts with "M".
But unless BM chooses to post, we have nothing. I do not want to know anything from anybody unless it is from BM, BN or Admin.
So before any of you pipsters want to ask again. Remember my post. Been there, done that. Still nothing. Don't waste your breath.
BM says we'll get everything back, I am holding on to that promise.
You all with me? I know this will not go down well with some members and I truly am sorry if you feel differently but I respect your views.
So lets just sit on it for a little longer. What no news means to me is :-
1. BN is still out on the PIPS verdict
2. BM is still trying to sort things out
3. If everything is truly gone, why no news in the local papers!
4. We waited this long, 7 months or so, what is another few months.
5. Must not interfere with things we cannot see or understand.
Face it, it aint over until its over. We will know one way or the other.
theBat$ is optimistic of a solution, my hope rest in PIPS. :woohoo:
I have maintained an aura of patience and goodwill. I have endeavored to not cast stones, nor aspersions. However, there are so many of you who wish to act like spoiled children, that it is nearly impossible to keep my composure, or to have any sense of peace.
BAT: It is NOT about the money. If that is your feeling, I suggest you move on to something else. If all it was about was money, BM would have cut and run. He has stated over and over that he is not interested in your greed. (Not to pick on you specifically, Bat, just "the money" portion - you seem to be coming along nicely)
WEBFOOT (and others): I suggest you listen to Everwiser today. Every single time BM has come forward, many (including some lurking around here appearing to be friends) have been waiting to beat the living snot out of him.
TO ALL OTHERS WISHING TO BASH: I KNOW that you must have better things to do with your time. Jump on the "George W = Satan" bandwagon if you want to rant and rave. While I do not deny your right to speak your mind, I suggest that the next time you have a new negative insight on what is wrong with everyone but yourself, let the thought go. Write it down, fold it up, and let it sit on the nightstand for 3 days. If you still have to ****, THEN go ahead and post. Remember one thing, though: YOU are mainly responsible for your life. YOU made the decision to act (on Pips). BM did nothing to you but offer you something special, something different. If YOU do not have the patience to wait, or do not have the fortitude to take the good with the bad, YOU have problems that go deeper than Pips. Take them elsewhere. We have grown tired of your tantrums.
TO ALL OF THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND: Life is just a game. HOW you play is more important than where you are at any given time. Every now and then, life reminds us that we aren't in charge of everything; how we deal with adversity is just as important as how we deal with success. Anyone that will sell themselves for $1MM is no better and no worse than a $1 hooker. The result is the same. SO many clues have been given to you over the past 7 months. SO many trolls have rolled over (and shut up because they finally realized how big the truck was that was heading their way). We still have some trolls here, and they are actively seeking the demise of Pips and BM. WHY? WHY? WHY? THEY say there is no money. THEY say BM is a thief and a liar. THEY scream "Prove It!" Yet they have no proof, no base, no motivation but greed and envy. I have never seen so many fight for "an empty shell" in my life. Friends, there is something, and it is real. Whether or not it can be realized is out of OUR hands. All that those who are sending queries and demands are doing is slowing up the process. I would kindly ask you to stop. Take 1 month off. Just 1. Then, if May comes along and we still don't hear anything, I'LL ask for an answer or two (but I won't make any promises as to the outcome).
Reflect on the last few months. Look for the clues. It is all there in front of you. The grass isn't greener over there. Think, look, listen.
Arcturus
[QUOTE=ArcturusI]I have maintained an aura of patience and goodwill. I have endeavored to not cast stones, nor aspersions. However, there are so many of you who wish to act like spoiled children, that it is nearly impossible to keep my composure, or to have any sense of peace.
BAT: It is NOT about the money. If that is your feeling, I suggest you move on to something else. If all it was about was money, BM would have cut and run. He has stated over and over that he is not interested in your greed. (Not to pick on you specifically, Bat, just "the money" portion - you seem to be coming along nicely
As pips members at this point the only thing we should be concerned about, as far as im concerned is our money and whether we will get it back, Lets not forget this was an investment no matter how you look at it.
None of members (believers or trolls) have the proof.
Believer’s optimism is based mostly on faith, and troll’s skepticism is based mostly on intuition. Why are the trolls so vehement? Because their intuitions same strong as the believers faith.
Only BN investigation will reveal the truth.
Believe me, OICU812, I understand your point. In fact, I am waiting as are others. But I do not look at this as "my money". No matter what your investment, one MUST assume that the money is gone. For all practical purposes, it is. You miss my point. It isn't about the money. If it is, you were wrong to "invest". Your loan was ill-advised. To give (charity) from want is noble and divine. To "invest" from want is foolish. I have given the analogy of the lottery ticket. This is no different (at this point).
Way2Go: What do you mean "no proof"? You have what you need, if only you would see. I will not spell it out for you, as it would give unfair notice and advantage to those who would bring this down. Do not blame BM for the delay, blame those who demand "their millions", in cash, right now. Blame those who would see themselves proven correct at the cost of the world. You are correct in your assumption of zeal. The passion exhibited by both sides is real, and strong. However, the earth is not flat, the moon is not made of cheese, no matter how loudly you proclaim it.
All that will keep this from being realized is simple: Those who want this to stay out of member hands at all costs - and/or - BM withdraws due to circumstances and pressure. Considering that he is still doing what he does best, it is in the hands of those who will not be satisfied even if it comes back and they get all their millions!
OIC and Way - your arguments are intriquing, but they lack substance. I applaud your "outside in" method of viewing, but look in all the windows before you make your assumptions. If you wish to debate the circumstance, I am open to it. I would ask the Mod's to open a new room for the debate of the theory, as well as the cause and effect, but not to bash BM, Pips, or anyone in particular. At this point, many are simply looking for justification. But what are YOU trying to justify? Your "loan", or your lack of "independent wealth"?
I am not satisfied with the present situation, but I understand it, and I accept it. I have read, I have pieced together the puzzle, I have listened. The proof is there, you just don't see it.
BTW: Thanks for your input. I learned something from it. I got to see this from another angle, and that is always good.
Arcturus