Thread: News not good in Norwegian

lol this is to funny :)

Originally Posted by pips4fun

Hello all!

Here comes my "hand made" translation.
Embassy met Thursday 2. March Mazlan bin Ahmad in Bank Negara’s Special Investigations Unit to discuss Pips Pure Investor.
Ahmad confirmed that the investigation of Pips Pure Investor has been transferred to Bank Negara’s prosecution unit. This unit examines the investigation documents prior they sending them to the Attorney General's Officer who will make a prosecution if necessary.
we knew the "findings" of the bank would be turned over to the prosecution unit at which time they decide if there is anything to prosecute

Special Investigations Unit has investigated whether it has been found breach at a number of laws, among these Illegal deposit taking (illegal banking), breach at Banking and Financial Services Act, Payment Systems Act and Anti Money Laundering Act.
to me this tells me they were looking specifically at these areas for wrong doing
To a question whether these properties was accordant with the loan funds owned by the PIPS investors, the answer was negative.
the properties not associated with our money?
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][FONT=Arial]Ahmad was hinting that Norwegian investors might consider hiring a local lawyer to look at the possibility for a prosecution against Bryan Marsden.

hmmm lawyer fishing for a sucker to hire them ?????
well I just had to give another point of view to consider

Originally Posted by Sportingmike

I think some of us have lost the plot. If the bank of BNM had only seized the funds in Picpay within there own country. The bulk of PIP's funds in the excess $1billion are still being invested in Offshore funds. Which they were unable to seize as they are in "ie Panama" and these funds are still being invested there would be more than enough to go around for all of us, as nobody has received any draw-downs there has been no outgoing business expenses being paid for overheads ie Staff wages and business expenses. Think of all the savings that this has made.

Maybe I did lose the plot... tell me how it is that you know this?? Or is this speculation... would be awesome if its true :)


/shred

Originally Posted by shredder

Maybe I did lose the plot... tell me how it is that you know this?? Or is this speculation... would be awesome if its true :)


/shred

Sportingmike may have more info on this, but, to my recollection, irishbilly of BTI met Bryan in Panama last summer during the annual Sovereign Society investments and asset protection seminar that happened to have been held there the same week that Bryan was to go there. irishbilly knew before the trip that Bryan was to be there at the same time, and they prearranged a meeting for one afternoon. They did meet up and, if my memory serves me correctly, Bryan covered that he was there to open an IBC and related bank account(s) in Panama. This may be significant, of course, to us at some point in the future; but nothing can happen until all of our account data are released back to us via the confiscated servers. It's not like Bryan can do anything much with it right now, especially as he is under the microscope. BNM, like the SEC would, may at some time try to pressure--read, blackmail--him with issues of server access, etc., to transfer alledged funds from bank accounts offshore to them, but, uh, I doubt that would go very far. That, in fact, was one of the reasons irishbilly wanted to talk to Bryan in the first place, to shed some light on issues of asset protection. I haven't thought for a second that some of that intelligence was lost on Bryan. I think he's smartly playing the waiting game...really, what else can he do? At some time, though, IF all is good within Panamanian holdings, then WE may have a shot at recovery. Time will tell; meanwhile, let Bryan play his cards craftily.

Regards,

thelema

Originally Posted by Thelema

Sportingmike may have more info on this, but, to my recollection, irishbilly of BTI met Bryan in Panama last summer during the annual Sovereign Society investments and asset protection seminar that happened to have been held there the same week that Bryan was to go there. irishbilly knew before the trip that Bryan was to be there at the same time, and they prearranged a meeting for one afternoon. They did meet up and, if my memory serves me correctly, Bryan covered that he was there to open an IBC and related bank account(s) in Panama. This may be significant, of course, to us at some point in the future; but nothing can happen until all of our account data are released back to us via the confiscated servers. It's not like Bryan can do anything much with it right now, especially as he is under the microscope. BNM, like the SEC would, may at some time try to pressure--read, blackmail--him with issues of server access, etc., to transfer alledged funds from bank accounts offshore to them, but, uh, I doubt that would go very far. That, in fact, was one of the reasons irishbilly wanted to talk to Bryan in the first place, to shed some light on issues of asset protection. I haven't thought for a second that some of that intelligence was lost on Bryan. I think he's smartly playing the waiting game...really, what else can he do? At some time, though, IF all is good within Panamanian holdings, then WE may have a shot at recovery. Time will tell; meanwhile, let Bryan play his cards craftily.

Regards,

thelema

You are right thelema. Everything will fall in right place in right time. Nothing is lost.

Originally Posted by Largo

Bburgess wrote:
"just like the Swwdish embassy connection is unconfirmed and probably unreliable."

It is the ONLY one Embassy contact confirmed...

Largo

I have no idea why you happend to be negative concerning this mail Largo. But I do have the name of the Norwegian person at the Norwegian Embassy.

We also know that there are some people working hard to destroy Pips, trying to influence BN. When BN says we should go to court against Bryan, that's a very clear signal about someone trying to "trick" us, because they want to destroy Pips. Someone is playing a game behind the scenes.

So don't loose your focus, and don't let the bad guys fool you.

Bryan are maybe naiv and a bit blind now and then. We know he in the past has trusted the wrong people giving him some wrong advices. And now and then he has made some wrong choces himself too. (It wasn't too wise of him to try to start HA Lotto, when everything still was a mess.) And as a Leader he is not the best one I have met to communicate either.

But a bad guy? No, not on this planet!

So we just have to watch this story closely and know that there are "forces" (bad and very ego people) trying hard to destroy this.

I hope someone in Malaysia want the real truth to come forward.

Be happy for the answer we got (the mail is true, largo and you other non-believers). Because now BN told us what they are TRYING to do. It's always best to know your enemy. Far worse if we believed everything was happy sunshine. Because then they could really managed to destroy Pips, because we wasn't prepared.

This also explains why we have got different answers now and then. Someone is not acting right at BN. Someone in that bank don't want the real truth to be realeased! Someone in BN cooperate or believes in the bad guys trying to destroy Pips.

Our "pain" is that we don't know what is happening, because Bryan is holding his cards (the information concerning this case) close to his chest.

But we do know in our hearts that someone seriously tries to make Pips not rise again.

Last chapter in this Book not written yet. But at least we need to be strong. And Bryan do need our support in this. When the story is over we can look back and learn what we did wrong, and what we didn't understand at that time. But right now we need to focus on the same goal: Getting Pips and our money back!