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    Offshore-Wealth.
    A couple of months ago I went through a process similar to what you describe and recommend. Much to my surprise I later found myself back. However, looking at PIPS and it’s current situation from a fresh and admittedly somewhat less biased perspective I find I am now more convinced than I ever was in the legitimacy of PIPS, its CEO and his objectives. Ditto in his chance of launching the restructured program. I do not feel any emotional pain from this situation although I continue to feel somewhat frustrated – who doesn’t!?
    If as you say some are being tortured by this situation that is indeed unfortunate and quite unnecessary, perhaps what you recommend would hopefully help.
    I too looked at other programs but found myself being overcome with feelings of DéjÃ* Vu to the point of nausea.
    I have no doubt that what you say is genuinely felt and offered with the best of intention.
    My prediction though is that sooner or later you’ll find what I described as happening to me also happening to you. You see once one has tasted PIPS and it’s dream its in the blood forever. So with that, I’ll say that I’m sure we’ll have the pleasure of seeing you around here again before too long.
    Farewell and good luck to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chester
    I find I am now more convinced than I ever was in the legitimacy of PIPS, its CEO and his objectives. Ditto in his chance of launching the restructured program.



    What was it that really convinced you, Chester?? I'm curious. Hope you don't mind responding?
    Brenda

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    Hello Brenda.
    No of course I don’t mind you responding : - )
    Well basically when BNM launched the investigation I began to have serious doubts about PIPS. I think what perhaps pushed me over the edge was reading some of the very negative opinions by people that I had seen on the PIPS forum since I first joined and who I always considered to be staunch PIPS supporters. These are members that claimed to have close contact with Bryan and apparently had the inside scoop as to what was going on. I’ve since learned some things about some of these people but not getting into that!
    All this of course was happening after several months of non-payments. All in all not looking good. One night after a particularly depressing session of reading various forums I went to bed and after some serious thinking told myself to give it up, to stop kidding myself and deal with the fact that it’s over. Well I didn’t burst into tears or anything like that but when I considered how much I had financially over extended myself I did break out into a cold sweat! Financially 2005 was a disaster for me, even without the PIPS problem.
    It took me about a month to emotionally detach myself from dealing with what I accepted as no more money coming from PIPS. Well to answer your question of what really convinced me? It wasn’t some outstanding discovery that got me turned back on to PIPS but rather a gradual process of reevaluation. As I said in my original post here, I was now looking at PIPS without any bias. As far as I was concerned at that time PIPS was finished. There was no reason to shy away from any awkward questions in my mind as I might have done before. I guess the one thing that I could never quite accept was that this had all been a big scam. The more I thought about it the more unlikely it became, there were just too many things that in my estimation pointed away from that. I briefly met Bryan once. He joined a group of us outside the convention center for a quick smoke. It was there that I also briefly chatted with Sharon as she poured herself a cup of tea at the buffet. I thought back to that encounter. Could this couple be guilty of putting together a huge scam? The same couple that attended a ceremony in the Philippines with a United Nations official commemorating a Pipsaid project in that country? Well I suppose anything is possible in this crazy world and I realize you can’t usually tell much about people in a one time brief encounter but I rejected the scam notion as even being a remote possibility. I thought delusional possibly but definitely not crooks.
    Since that time just about everything I’ve bee able to reconsider as stood up. However, what has been instrumental in my regained optimism probably more than anything has been the communications between a member that has close ties with some of the original PIPS members (Pioneer’s) that I know have some contact with Bryan. I am now totally convinced that everything Bryan has told us about the current situation and his prognostic for the future is truthful. Look, I accept the possibility that the final outcome of the investigation just might be too devastating to give Bryan an opportunity to carry on, but other than that happening I’m confident things will be up and running and running again. No idea when though.

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    Yes Chester, I agree, we have a lot to look forward too. We need to keep the
    faith. Keep The Faith, was my logo in the original PIPS forum. I still stand by it.

    Brenda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chester
    Well I didn’t burst into tears or anything like that but when I considered how much I had financially over extended myself I did break out into a cold sweat! Financially 2005 was a disaster for me, even without the PIPS problem.

    Chester

    I dont mean to get personal. BUT arent you the one that mortgaged your house and took the proceeds and joined Pips? That had to be huge ($100K+??). If this is you, you must be a very strong person to have that type of pressure. We all took risk BUT you took the ultimate. The sad thing is that surely some governmental authorities have to know of your huge participation in regards to your fundsl, and none of them have contacted you? Strange. But I sure do hope your right Chester that Pips will be back. Because I just dont have the same feelings anymore. Especially after Bryan giving us the "cold shoulder".

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    No Pippyman, that wasn't me.

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    it was on the 8th of this month the last time BM posted is there any new news or are we just going to let pips go down the hill and forget about our money.
    I'm not telling anyone to take legal actions against pips/bm/bon but I'm hoping someone in malaysia would post and tell us what the hell is going on there.

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    Good one Chester....

    A BIG BUMP!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chester
    Hello Brenda.
    No of course I don’t mind you responding : - )
    Well basically when BNM launched the investigation I began to have serious doubts about PIPS. I think what perhaps pushed me over the edge was reading some of the very negative opinions by people that I had seen on the PIPS forum since I first joined and who I always considered to be staunch PIPS supporters. These are members that claimed to have close contact with Bryan and apparently had the inside scoop as to what was going on. I’ve since learned some things about some of these people but not getting into that!
    All this of course was happening after several months of non-payments. All in all not looking good. One night after a particularly depressing session of reading various forums I went to bed and after some serious thinking told myself to give it up, to stop kidding myself and deal with the fact that it’s over. Well I didn’t burst into tears or anything like that but when I considered how much I had financially over extended myself I did break out into a cold sweat! Financially 2005 was a disaster for me, even without the PIPS problem.
    It took me about a month to emotionally detach myself from dealing with what I accepted as no more money coming from PIPS. Well to answer your question of what really convinced me? It wasn’t some outstanding discovery that got me turned back on to PIPS but rather a gradual process of reevaluation. As I said in my original post here, I was now looking at PIPS without any bias. As far as I was concerned at that time PIPS was finished. There was no reason to shy away from any awkward questions in my mind as I might have done before. I guess the one thing that I could never quite accept was that this had all been a big scam. The more I thought about it the more unlikely it became, there were just too many things that in my estimation pointed away from that. I briefly met Bryan once. He joined a group of us outside the convention center for a quick smoke. It was there that I also briefly chatted with Sharon as she poured herself a cup of tea at the buffet. I thought back to that encounter. Could this couple be guilty of putting together a huge scam? The same couple that attended a ceremony in the Philippines with a United Nations official commemorating a Pipsaid project in that country? Well I suppose anything is possible in this crazy world and I realize you can’t usually tell much about people in a one time brief encounter but I rejected the scam notion as even being a remote possibility. I thought delusional possibly but definitely not crooks.
    Since that time just about everything I’ve bee able to reconsider as stood up. However, what has been instrumental in my regained optimism probably more than anything has been the communications between a member that has close ties with some of the original PIPS members (Pioneer’s) that I know have some contact with Bryan. I am now totally convinced that everything Bryan has told us about the current situation and his prognostic for the future is truthful. Look, I accept the possibility that the final outcome of the investigation just might be too devastating to give Bryan an opportunity to carry on, but other than that happening I’m confident things will be up and running and running again. No idea when though.

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