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    Quote Originally Posted by DAREDEVIL69
    Here is the PROOF that the message is untrue..... it is DATED as the 25th on this site... well check the date on this Blog. There is one that was posted back in August with this very same message.

    http://www.thehyipforum.com/message7...ith-pips-.html
    I thought I had seen this or part of this back in August or Sept. Same ol crap from TG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAREDEVIL69
    1) Obviously you are on a witch hunt STYLE...
    DISCLAIMER

    2) In a major market crash or worldwide economic disaster there is a risk that all funds could be lost.
    1) If you call "the truth" a witch hunt, then YES I am!
    2) Nuff said!

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    I WONDER HOW MANY OF YOU GOT GANKED BY PLEXPAY??? THOSE THAT RAN SCARED FROM PIPS BEFORE THEY WENT DOWN ACTUALLY STARTED HAVING NATION WIDE CONFERENCE CALLS STATING THAT PLEXPAY WAS STARTED BY PIPS MEMBERS THAT WANTED TO CORRECT THE ILLS AND SHORTCOMINGS OF PIPS..... BUT SHORTLY THE HEADS OF PLEXPAY WERE ARRESTED AND THROWN IN JAIL AND THE SITE TAKEN DOWN.

    AT LEAST BYRAN'S LEG UP IS THIS WAS ALL OFF SHORE ACTIVITY NOT REGULATTED BY THE SEC SO ANYTHING DONE IS "AT RISK" ANYWAY.

    NO ONE QUESTIONS THE FOREX MARKET (FOREIGN EXCHANGE) WHICH HAS NO CENTRAL LOCATION YET MOVES 24 hr/ day and is a 2 TRILLION/ DAY BUSINESS....YET IS IT TOTALLY LEGAL???? IS IT A SCAM???? IS IT REGULATTED BY THE SEC OR THE FEDERAL RESERVE CARTEL????

    You sir need to go get YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT ROOKIE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Style
    So you are saying that you choose "Hope" over the "truth"...............

    Ok.... well give me your mailing address and I will send you $500,000 in cash.

    See my point SM? Hope is good but the thing is we "live" in reality.
    one does not have to sacrifice hope for the truth, or truth for hope....

    I'd like to know the truth as much as anyone.... is it so necessary that I need it to be happy?.... no. I will happily wait for the truth.
    I will not let the absence of facts steal my joy....


    I do hope for the truth... but don't try to rob me of that HOPE... because I will not despair until it is time to....

    that time is not now.... and so I remain hopeful.

    'What is laid down, ordered, factual is never enough to embrace the whole truth: life always spills over the rim of every cup.'

    ps.... keep your $500,000.... I don't really need it.
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    Default "A message from Arcturus:

    I was asked to post this for a Friend, who can only read this forum, but is unable to post. Arcturus is trying to register, though.
    Here Goes:

    Do you know what Rational Ignorance is? Whether or not you believe that Pips is real or not is no longer the issue. The analogy of casinos and lotteries IS valid, Style, as there are no guarantees in either. Merely by playing the slots does not make one a winner. You need to get the payout.
    If you are playing, and it hasn't paid, then you have 2 choices: play and be patient or walk away. I know many who spend hundreds, if not thousands per year on lottery, and go to the casino's, all chasing after the easy money. YOU, my friend, are only fooling yourself. It does not matter when you get your money back, it is gone.
    There were no promises, no guarantees. I have a copy of both websites. Say what you want about Mr. Bryan Marsden if it makes you feel good. It doesn't change what will be. It doesn't change what is. What are your options? Scream at the heavens? It still rains. The sun still shines. Not a damn thing you can do about it. I suggest you sit back and rest your weary head, or go play somewhere else. Either way, you are not intersted in what is real, what the truth is. I, too, would very much like to know what is happening, but I cannot do anything about it. So I don't. I have just had it with your whining and rock throwing. A MAN admits when he has made a mistake. Either take your pride and swallow, or go away. Either way, all you are doing is spitting in the wind. You, and everyone else that has "facts". Que sara, sara. Being in business as long as I have, being self employed and working for others, there are 3 universal truths : You cannot control the thoughts of another, You cannot fight ignorance, and You cannot escape from yourself. Only Bryan knows if he is being honorable. Only Bryan can answer the tough questions. Why isn't he? Because. It's as good an answer as you will get, until he chooses to answer you. Until then, you are only shouting to the wind. Time will tell if this is real or not; nothing I do, nothing you do, will change that.

    Arcturus
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    I dont care about Plexpay, Forex, The Federal Reserve Cartel, The Colombian Drug Cartel, I dont care if it is Regulated by the SEC, FBI, PTA, DEA, ATF or the MDA............I dont care if it is legal or illegal, young or old, day or night, 24 hours a day or 24 hours a year, 2 trillion or 900 trillion per day, I dont care if it is offshore on shore or Pauly Shore..............NONE of that means a damn to me...................I care about my money that Bryan Marsden has and the fact that he is playing us like a damn drum. Thats what I CARE ABOUT!

    Quote Originally Posted by DAREDEVIL69
    I WONDER HOW MANY OF YOU GOT GANKED BY PLEXPAY??? THOSE THAT RAN SCARED FROM PIPS BEFORE THEY WENT DOWN ACTUALLY STARTED HAVING NATION WIDE CONFERENCE CALLS STATING THAT PLEXPAY WAS STARTED BY PIPS MEMBERS THAT WANTED TO CORRECT THE ILLS AND SHORTCOMINGS OF PIPS..... BUT SHORTLY THE HEADS OF PLEXPAY WERE ARRESTED AND THROWN IN JAIL AND THE SITE TAKEN DOWN.

    AT LEAST BYRAN'S LEG UP IS THIS WAS ALL OFF SHORE ACTIVITY NOT REGULATTED BY THE SEC SO ANYTHING DONE IS "AT RISK" ANYWAY.

    NO ONE QUESTIONS THE FOREX MARKET (FOREIGN EXCHANGE) WHICH HAS NO CENTRAL LOCATION YET MOVES 24 hr/ day and is a 2 TRILLION/ DAY BUSINESS....YET IS IT TOTALLY LEGAL???? IS IT A SCAM???? IS IT REGULATTED BY THE SEC OR THE FEDERAL RESERVE CARTEL????

    You sir need to go get YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT ROOKIE!

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    Red face

    I just feel sorry for those people that used there credit card's to fund their PIPS accounts. That's really sad now that all this is happening. Hopefully Bryan will show up soon.

    Is there any good reason to believe Bryan really is in Panama?

    I'm going give Bryan some time and if PIPS is not back up in the middle of 2006! It's over as all sue the man but hopefully no.

    As for me I'm still an investor and will always be a Pipster.
    Jon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Style
    Absolutely not even the same thing here. Casino's do not promise anything. Everybody knows when you walk in a casino it is a game of luck.
    Bryan Marsden (Pips) PROMISED 2% per day return on our loans.
    The 2 (casino's and Pips) cant even be compared.

    NOW.........if you walked into a casino, played the slots and won $200,000 and the owner said there would be a delay in the payment and then a year later you still hadnt been paid and you went to the casino to find they had shut down and then later the owner kept calling you every once in awhile saying "soon" "very soon". And then you find out he had started up another business but you still had not been paid what was owed to you and then he just stopped calling.................then we could compare the 2.

    Now that's not the same either!

    Actually if you want to compare it would have to be like this:

    You walk into a casino that runs a number of businesses, play the slots and win $200,000. You make arrangements to have the money transferred to your bank account. Then the bank they use closes their account because they fear that the casino might is laundering money and the owner says there's a delay in the payment and then later you go to the casino and find that the authorities have seized everything including your money because they want to investigate the business. Then the owner keeps calling you every once in a while saying "once we get everything back from the authorities". And then you find out he is starting up again one of the businesses the casino owned because the authorities allows it.
    To pay you your money he still has to wait to get everything else back from the authorities. Then he doesn't call for a week or two.................

    Now you can compare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Style
    You obviously dont read very well. The risks warned about on the PIPSInc website were in case of an "economic meltdown"................well from where I sit that hasnt happend. And according to my stock broker that hasnt happend either....so you really should do some more "investigating" yourself because you are in fact clueless.
    For the SIMPLE FACT THAT YOU SAID YOU HAVE A STOCK BROKER let's me FURTHER know the real education you have and are relying on STYLE!

    The Stockbroker

    To buy stock it's necessary to have a stockbroker, since you cannot buy stock directly from the company that issues the stock. The stockbroker is an account executive (AE), or registered representation, at a brokerage firm. The firm may be a member of the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE), which will sometimes mean that the broker has completed a training course and passed NYSE and National Association of Securities Dealers tests before being approved by the Securities and Exchange Commission.

    Account executives, according to the Wall Street mythology, are supposed to follow a strict code of ethics and obey a number of SEC and NYSE rules. For example, a broker is not supposed to guarantee a client against a loss. The AE is not supposed to share in the profit from a client's account. And the broker is not supposed to rebate any of their compensation to clients. All these rules are honored much more in the breach.

    The brokerage firm charges a commission each time stock is bought or sold, the broker receiving a percentage of that fee. Brokerage fees have been negotiable since May, 1975. A stockbroker's income, then, increases if stock is bought and sold as frequently as possible, which often is not to the investor's advantage.

    Discount brokerage firms offer low commissions and "no-frills" services. They sometimes require a modest deposit or a minimum annual commission.

    Your stockbroker acts as an agent on your behalf and does not actually buy or sell the stocks you select. The broker's firm will be a member of various stock exchanges or have a working relationship with a member firm. When you give your order to the stockbroker it is sent to the trading department of the broker's firm and from there to the firm's represesntative, known as a floor broker, at a specific stock exchange.

    Traders do the actual buying and selling of stocks and deal only with traders at other brokerage firms. Brokers work only with investors. Traders often use the NASDAQ system to find buyers and sellers of stocks. The broker types in the name of the stocks the investor wants to buy and finds a list of brokerage firms willing to sell the stocks and a specific price. The trader then contacts one of those brokerage firms and places an order for the stocks.

    The trader informs the broker that the stocks have been purchased. The investor is informed of the purchase and the commission fee is charged to the investor's account.

    The most hidden aspect of the Wall Street Con Game is the specialist. In most books on the stock market, the specialist is not even mentioned or is written off as "an expert in several stocks." There is even a story which is supposed to convince the unwary investor that the specialist system actually arose by accident in 1875 when James Boyd, an exchange member, broke his leg and was unable to move about the floor, being forced to "specialize" in a certain stock.

    If you want to avoid being taken in by the Wall Street Con Game, I would suggest you read the books of Richard Ney: Making It in the Market, The Wall Street Jungle, and The Wall Street Gang. Ney also provides an investment newsletter which is one of the few to offer honest advice based on a thorough understanding of how Wall Street actually operates. In a recent telephone conversation with Mr. Ney I learned that he is currently working on a new book on the stock market. The genius of Ney's system is that he is one of the few persons to understand how the stock market is actually rigged by the specialist cartel.

    "The specialist system is like a cartel whose members have divided among themselves the proprietary ownership of the stocks of the American corporate complex along with the exclusive right to determine the upward and downward movements of these stocks in the interests of their own merchandising objectives."

    The specialist is supposed to serve two contradictory functions, part of the Wall Street myth:
    As a fiduciary agent to make sure that stocks are traded fairly
    As a trader serving his and his investment banker confederates' interests

    The horrible losses incurred by unwary investors are the direct result of this specialist system, as Ney describes.

    "Those in government charged with the administration of the securities industry and who conduct these investigations are fully aware that since the turn of the century the findings of such investigations have centered on the fact that the deep and inexorable crises of the stock market are caused by the failure of specialists to operate the market in a fair and orderly manner when acting as dealers for themselves while in competition with the public."

    NEED I SHOW YOU THE REAL SCAM STYLE???????? PLEASE DON'TTRY TO MATCH WITS WITH ME SIR...I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A WHILE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolbuddy
    Now that's not the same either!

    Actually if you want to compare it would have to be like this:

    You walk into a casino that runs a number of businesses, play the slots and win $200,000. You make arrangements to have the money transferred to you bank account. Then the bank they use closes their account because they fear that the casino might is laundering money and the owner says there's a delay in the payment and then later you go to the casino and find that the authorities have seized everything including your money because they want to investigate the business. Then the owner keeps calling you every once in a while saying "once we get everything back form the authorities". And then you find out he is starting up again one of the businesses the casino owned because the authorities allows it.
    To pay you your money he still has to wait to get everything else back from the authorities. Then he doesn't call for a week or two.................

    Now you can compare.
    I TEND TO AGREE WITH THIS ACCOUNT because this is the ACTUAL "M.O." of the UNITED STATES FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES tactics!

    Hell even the FDA (Food and Drug Administration) use these same tactics if you go saying anything natural can CURE a DISEAS that isn't a FDA approved DRUG! UDER DURREST OF BEING SHOT (oh yeah... they have armed FDA agents) So this is no fantasy.... here again I draw on my original statement....NO ONE EVER QUESTIONS WHO MAY BE THE REAL CULPRIT behind the scare tactics and the bigger witch hunt.

    If you place your faith in the US GOV Corporation then you are the REAL ONE THAT IS LOST! FORGET what you think Bryan has done to you.....

    One question .. HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE YOU TO MAKE just a measly $100 from return interest payments from a US Federal Reserve Backed bank on a simple $100 deposit?

    Any clue........??? (that is just simply stated "HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE YOU TO JUST DOUBLE YOUR DEPOSIT)..... Do you have the answer yet?

    TRY 28 YEARS (and that is a very CONSERVATIVE FIGURE)

    You know anything about the Rule of 72 ...STYLE???? And you come here red hot and angry at the supposed fraud that you think Bryan has committed against you? LOL

    You should go check this out with your stock broker for validity!

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