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I'm still amazed you can read, now try and comprehend. Go over it several times if you have to.
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If you two are going to verbally 'duke it out' ... at least keep it 'above the waist'.... no low blows.... there are some gentle people watching who don't need, or deserve to see it...
Ther ya Go
Some Answers
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The following has been extracted from the Questions fro Bryan thread. The answers below are all that I can provide at this time due to the investigation and not having access to any data.
PLEASE DO NOT ASK ANY MORE QUESTIONS, I CANNOT AT THIS STAGE ANSWER THEM
1. Kingtvrtko: Why BN don't investigate PIPS Aid? PIPS Aid is one of PIPS companies and BN stated on their site that they investigate PIPS companies.
PIPSAID operates totally outside jurisdiction, unfortunately it got closed down when the datacenter servers got siezed.
2. Kingtvrtko: Have BN gave you permission to start this new program? We don’t want them to start investigate this new program after you launch it.
On speaking with BN officers, it was stated that PIPSAID should be ok.
3. Kingtvrtko: Why you accept e-currencies again with this new program? You are not afraid of hackers anymore? If I remember correctly once upon a time they took about $40 000 from your e-gold account?
The e-currencies like e-gold are transacted directly but through another operation that accepts many e-currencies. We do not have a direct e-gold account.
4. Mrlover: Why would the pipsaid give money to charities? Why wouldn't give it pips members that lost alot over the year?
70% of the revenue generated in the PIPSAID operation does and will be going back to the members in one way or another.
5. Mrlover: Why did pipsaide close when it wasn't being investigated?
It was closed because it was on the servers that BN took.
6. Mrlover: Why can't we get the money we had in it (I had $10,000) transfered when it wasn't under investigation (I know BM said he has to wait for the servers but why were both or all pips companies all in 1 server)?
For those asking the question about why all was on one server, it was not there was more than one server in the datacenter and they took them all and the backups.
We were aiming to setup another datacenter before this happened but at $1.5+ Million a time it is not something you do overnight.
7. Judy for peace: I would like to know if the pick 3 and 4 are played daily.
Yes they are daily programs.
8. Nobody: Will we be able to see where our proceeds go from our charitable contributions? Monthly, semi-annual, annual statements of the condition of the companies? Will there be communication with us? Thanks :)
There is a section on the lotto site which will show the aid revenues, the projects being undertaken, progress and photos etc.
9. Reilfortunes: Don't Lottery sites require a gaming license in their country of operation? In what jurisdiction does PIPSAID have it's gaming license
Not for interent operation, it applies if you sell physical tickets offline and have sales offices tc. in that jurisdiction. I am not prepared at this time to divulge the jurisdiction due to the trolls etc, but the license will be published on the site when it opens.
10. Reilfortunes:Dont Lotteries have to be audited for payout percentages and integrity in selection of winners? Who is the Independent auditor for PIPSAID
The company and operations will be audited, although there is no requirement under offshore jurisdiction. Members will also be able to see online each month what is going on and the financials.
11. Reilfortunes: What does the business plan call for in the % of ticket sales that go to Humanitarian Aid, What percentage to prizes, What percentage to Operating Costs, what percentage to building a reserve for helping to fund any PIPS comeback and what percentage of ticket sales and winnings get distributed to the affiliates? Participants and affiliates should be able to feel good about knowing what percentage goes to Humanitarian projets and feel secure in the other percentages sustaining the ongoing operation.
40% goes to Commissions on Lotto (10% on Pick 3 and Pick 4)
25% goes to prizes on Lotto
30% goes to Reserves on Lotto
5% from sales goes to donations, 95% direct donations.
12. Reilfortunes: There were previous problems with PIPSAID Paying winners, and with the problems in PIPS divisions and and Not paying for a year and its other areas being investigated by BN, even if several PIPSters feel they will do this what can they tell others about an guarantee that affiliate commissions and winnings will be paid? Is it automatically set so that when payment for each ticket is paid that the revenue is split and paid out to the ecurrency account of the affiliate? Does an indpendent auditor monitor and assure determination and payment of winnings?
Winnings and commissions are paid to member accounts, withdrawals can be made at any time, e-currency withdrawals are instant. Wire take as long as the banking system takes, (generally 3 to 5 days)
13. Style: Will you be keeping any of the money made from the "New" Pipsaid program for yourself Bryan? This one most definitely SHOULD NOT be side stepped!! I mean I understand paying for the servers and such.....but I mean will you be keeping any of it for your own personal use? I would like to know the answer to this.
NO - I will as always just draw a salary, thsi has always been the case with PIPS and it is verifiable.
14. Kalpota:
Im looking at the payouts ,the odds for the pick3 and pick 4 with all the options available,the odds are definitely in a player's favor.I wonder, with the addition of the affiliate program paying for members effort in selling,promoting and recruiting ,with the contribution to charity,will the bonuses requirements be possible.Playing the lotto is not a loan or an ivestment i'll play because of the odds but if I choose to be an affiliate will i be guaranteed to get paid for my efforts.
Is there a contract between affiliates and the new program that both parties should abide as far as compensation goes.
In other words I want to know If I do the work will I get paid without excuses like market crashes,cataclysmic events etc. etc.
ALL is possible, the state lotto's have been using the same system for years (excluding the affiliate side) and have been doing very well with it.
PIC TRUST:
1. Petert: Bryan, when the PICTrust was closed I was promised a refund of the payments that I had made, but these were never received. Will this be corrected as $1500 is a lot of money to lose in one hit?
YES they will all be refunded when we get it all back together.
PIC REALTY:
1. Connectsa: Will the people who were approved and have paid their deposits just carry on from where they left off or will we have to reapply and repay the initial deposit?
When we get realty back up it will be on a continuous basis, you will not need to make deposits again.
2. Wolwes: I would like to know if Pic Reality will carry on and if funds paid into it will still be available or will we have to start again?
SAME AS ABOVE
3. Com2: I thought Pic Reality was a Totally seperate Company from Pips from what the web site said?
ALL was on the servers and without the data we cannot operate.
PIPS:
1. Kingtvrtko: Can you tell us if BN investigate PIPS companies one by one or all together? You mentioned that everything will be back in phases so I have impression that BN is investigating companies one by one.
CANNOT COMMENT
2. Style: Has our ROL continued running or not........this is a yes or no question. I dont need an explanation, just a straight forward answer.....yes or no. This should be VERY easy to answer and I cant see how answering this will effect the investigation in any way.
CANNOT COMMENT except to say members will not lose out.
3. Style: what is the reason that payments were so far behind before the BNM stepped in (I dont think this has ever been answered, to my knowledge...if I am wrong and it has been answered I apologize and could you please point me in the direction of where it was answered).........
Will be explained in the statement after all is over, but the banking institutions had a lot to do with it.
4. Fortunateson: What happened to cambodian bank?
Did not get setup, the representative handling it is basically MIA
5. Mrlover: Whatever happened to the PIPS bank and would you be sending our money from it when all goes well?
AS ABOVE
6. Way2go: When the investigation is finished, will you use e-curency platforms (same as you are using for PipsAid) to pay members the outstanding widrawals?
Similar systems, but payments will be on schedules selected by member at monthly, quarterly, 6 monthly, annually or on maturity.
7. Com2: Can you give us some Idea of how this new Pips Program will work, will it be 2%, how will the payouts work Ect?
CANNOT COMMENT, YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT
8. Hesitatenot: Bryan,
You mentioned in one of your posts that all bank accounts were locked.
Does this mean that all of the PureInvestors Program bank accounts are locked, regardless of where those accounts may reside?
At the moment yes.
PICPAY:
1. Penna: Will picpay merchants be paid for merchant sales in those cases where products have already been sent to customers?
Where products are verified as shipped and received YES, many merchant payments were on my desk for payment when BN came in.
2. Frankusa: If every penny of Pending Withdrawals, Available Funds and Money Left in PicPay is not 100% paid out to Members Bank Accounts would not this eliminate any possibility of a "New PIPS"? The Law Suits and complaints would be almost overwhelming.
NO.
3% PROGRAM:
1. Livefree: What is the status of the millions of dollars invested by the various pools like DBR and others just before the sites went down?
3% program was NOT implemented PIPS, these were independent operations.
GENERAL:
1. Smoke: Will he agree to answer OUR questions upon the completion of the BNM investigation?
There will be a very long and comprehensive statement available when all is over.
2. Robinrex: Bryan, do you practice your golfswing and do you practice at the pooltable so you are ready for the next convention, hehe.....
I WISH!!!
3. Way2go: Sometime in October you said “We are still working on the BN situation, although it is slow going and we are not sure of seeing any progress before November”. Now you believe that the investigation may take even more that one year. Was there any progresse made since the investigation started? Are you and your legal team actively involved in the investigation and are you in position to do anything to speed up the process?
CANNOT COMMENT
4. Samuk: You seem to be friends with King of Malaysia as he came to the party at the PIPs restaurant, are you able to give him a call and ask him if he can pull a few strings with BN?
CANNOT COMMENT
5. Mrlover: When is it going to be over and we'll get our money?
CANNOT COMMENT
6. Stillhere: Dear Bryan, May we have a program like --12 Daily Pro--An internet surfing program to help PIPS AND IT MEMBERS?
This is not what pips is about.
7. Stillhere: Also, is it permissable for you to recommend to us a forex or commodity firm that will trade in the market for the smaller investor WITH A SUCCESS RECORD. YOU MAY pm US IF THIS IS POSSIBLE.
NO, We are not licensed advisors and cannot do that.
8. SCRUFF: could you please ask bryan if he is giving his full co operation to the bank.
YES, no reason not to.
As I stated at the top of this post please do not ask anymore questions because I am not in a position to answer them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by second mouse
Sorry Mouse...there's no helping some people.
Marek, you need to get hands on this Forum. Your Mods are sleeping, and things getting out of control.
If you do not start acting right away, you will loose every single normal person out of this forum.
This is total chaos.
Your Mods are sleeping or what?
I need to get out of this place till gets in order.
All I can say it's old news and answers othing for us as far as PIPS now you two have different opinions about PIPS just site and wait another month and if nothing happens then we can go to malyasia and meet BM and ask for answers.
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I think it's just a 'condensed' version of normal forum disagreement (using the word loosely)
apparently some of our bullies have been let back out on the playground after a few days in detention....
:wigged:
I recommend the brass type undies for everyone.... until things calm down...
nothing new here.... we've all heard it before..... unfortunately.:redface:
I see the mentality around here is the same. I will now go back in my hole and just and watch and laugh.
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oh yeah.... I'd like to apologize for the disrespect and bad manners you are having to witness.... so many of you are very kind and compassionate, and you do not deserve to see it....Quote:
Originally Posted by second mouse
someone needs to show regret... could just as well be me.. :sads:
style.... we've leaned to understand you and the frustration that motivates you (most of us have anyway, imho)....Quote:
Originally Posted by Style
but there are some whose posts genuinely look like they are motivated by hate....
please... don't fan that flame!
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I don't know what's worse/better - the deafening silence in "that other forum" or the discussions between the boys in this forum.
At least these boys are honest which is more than can be said about many others.
A new time out is probably not going to make it, but how about keeping it down a little from now on.....? :biggrin:
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I never said it was intentional.... but there are some people on here who have a bad case of 'optical rectitus' ... bad attitude, and they are encouraged by some of your vented frustration... and then things escalate....
some of those same people that we discussed, that are afraid to post because they are afraid their post will be misunderstood? well, they'll read some of this stuff... and the negativitiy may make them unecessarily fearful...
truely, we MUST leave people their hope.... without it there is despair.
I believe 'honest' is one thing.... but 'offensive' is unacceptable...Quote:
Originally Posted by Shell
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Originally Posted by Style
Thats a Load of BS as usual. See post #3. If you want to start it, I'm going to finish it.
WOW, this sure is a heated thread! Nice to be back from being banned!!! All I can say is opinions are like a**ho**s, every one has one, but FACTS are FACTS and they speak for themselves. Ever heard ACTIONS speak louder than words, or you ARE what you DO, not say. The FACTS are that there are NO facts, just a lot of UNKEPT promises. I won't suggest any solutions ever again cause I hate being banned. Deep down inside, even though the cheerleaders want us to think their faith never waivers, they have their doubts. They fight it off by picking up yet another pom-pom, or belittling anyone with questions or doubt. If they don't have those moments of doubt, I have some swamp land for sale cheap in Fla!!!!!!!!! Man, I would love to tuck my tail and say I was sorry for doubting and get my $3500/day now!! Maybe we can all be on the same side whichever way this turns out. Once we were all buddies, when things "appeared" to be going well. We had our little number of units owned clubs and we would progress ever so quickly to the next. Maybe we could now meet somewhere in the middle now. I will say we do need to find out the truth and leave it at that.
I Agree 100% With You
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:ro_emote: :sads: :sads:Quote:
Originally Posted by Style
TELL EM STYLE i AGREE 100% WITH YOU THE PROBLEM WILL BE HERE AS LONG AS WE ARE NOT GETTING PAID AND WE'LL NOT FORGET BM
You're WELCOME style! I have said this before and I will say it again! I do enjoy reading your comments and opinions! As well as many other PIPSTERS!
I know you're a true PIPSTER as are many of us! So, I will Cheer and when the time comes to either YELL or CHEER louder...I will do that and I know you'll be there with all of us PIPSTERS!
But, I must say to all the newbies that ask those darn "same" questions...please give it a rest! hee hee smile! I am as I type this. I will finally add, that when BM posted by Christmas time this year 2005 will be forgotten, I not hope and pray that that is true...I am crossing my fingers too! (-;
Have the very best day of your life and remember the phrase...krisark is buying the first round of PINTS...I survived PIPS in 2005 and PIPS (will) made me rich in 2006!
krisark
Grace, mercy and forgiveness will help a man walk tall - JCM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Style
If you cant say it - cry it!
If you cant cry it - buy it!
If you cant buy it - hire it!
If you cant hire it - desire it!
If you cant .............................
If....................................... LOL
Pls write me a Poem!
Wow, getting back to the original title of this thread, "Why Hasn't Brian Started his Own Web site," the answer is very simple.
His own website which includes his own forum is the PIPS website and being that PIPS is still under investigation, I reason that the PIPS website will be unavailable until after the investigation is completed.
From reading Bryan's responses posted in this forum, he has stated that an explanation would be given after the investigation is over.
champ
My Point is, Brian could at Least Put up a web page on his Pips site on remote server with a little information, just something, even if it's to say
we'll be back, stay tuned, but he hasn't even done that
Quote:
Originally Posted by Style
Are you talking to me you little boy? I do not understand how you can change you character so fast. May be you should stay away for a while, and cool of. You definitely need to analyze you expose to this and other forums. Every single Forum you step in, you create storm. It looks to me that you are playing double face game.
First, I did all my best to protect your a** every place you showed up even in some cases when you went way overboard. Now you turn against me which is very bad choice, for no reason.
Second, you claim that you are for Pips and Bryan support, but 90% of time you call him names and spreading propaganda that is way out of any intelligence. I do not know your personal mission but it is for sure bad for this community. It is shame that many members here are afraid of your attack so they are playing nice puppy behaving toward you.
What ever some good points you through here and there, to get attention, you turn around and slam door to everybody's face.
You need to grow up and first you need to start respect people before you you can get one.
Bryan did not deserve to be attacked and demand from you, because ask yourself who are you so special to request something different than us.
I do not want go in debate, because I am sick to read all this garbage of few rebels that effected this forum. It is very sad to see some people turn evil and create chaos just because Bryan did not say enough to satisfy their ears.
From now on I do not want you to respond to my posts and I will not respond to yours. I would suggest you go to church on Sunday and ask God to give you guidances.
Yes he has...read his posts for the information you seek.Quote:
Originally Posted by ne469
Bryan has stated that he cannot give any details until the investigation is over. Again, feel free to read over all of his posts to see exactly what he has already said about PIPS...
As mentioned previously, he has stated that an explanation would be given after the investigation.
So once the investigation is over then will Bryan be able to give "a little information" about PIPS. Hopefully this explanation is crystal clear...
champ
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Hmmmm. Your opinions are fine, but your personal attacks are not.
From here on, if i see any personal attcak on anyone, i will simply have t..............., you know what i mean.
What i can say myself is this. You can talk, we wont ban you. Just dont attack other, and this goes for all! I will not give special treatment to anyone here. I would ask some here to lookup their posts, edit them for bad language.
Sad to see this development, but all people are different, and all have their opinions. I dont wish to ban any pips member at all. But if you dont follow RC rules, i will remove you. Please calm down, and do NOT attack each other!
regards
Marek
Wonder why I was banned for 6 days by Shell when I never did attack anyone, I only stated my opinion and she did not like my post and banned me. I would like to clarify the reason why she banned me as I am positive that I did not attack anyone!
You stated that you do not ban anyone for giving their opinion and that's exactly what I did and I got banned.
Badger05
Your still here, and not banned. I think this is the answer to your question mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by badger05
marek
It seems many like the opportunity to write things that go over and over the same points time and time again.
The way some dictate what Bryan should or should not do is arrogant to the extreme.
I may be a newbie on this forum but I go back a long way with Bryan.
I am leaving this forum to all the ego hunters and I will wait patiently for the info that the new set up is ready.
Bye
Wow...
This shows more than other things, how the need to imagine is stronger than the need for information.
This shows more than other things, the need to interpret than to ask; "What do you realy mean?"
This also goes to show and prove the very need for everyone with a concern, to stay in dialogue and exchange a rational mind with practical debate. Challenging is great but kept to a minimum if not, completely avoid belittling the opposite, one's views and strong opinions must be respected and the dialogue continues and a;l can place judgement from the wise solutions or suggestions that may appear from it... it is always a learning process and it helps all sides to calm their nerves too.
Style is very outspoken and he HAS the right to be for the interests he vested in like we all have to a vareity of degree but questioning his plight is turning a blind eye to factual occurances and patience has a place but tolerance has it's limits too. We are all too human here, don't forget that fact.:ro_emote:
Staying away is a choice too, feeling complacent on leaving it to the rest to talk it out is a choice too but to consider those in strong debate and "roughing" it out as not your scenario and wave goodbye...is a choice too but it makes you no better than your occasional "sneak" back to catch the latest news.... and wave goodbye again and leave the dialogue when you can contribute some positive mindset to it.
YB.:beer:
Yogi!...Quote:
Originally Posted by YogiBrood
This is your best post ever, thank you for your understanding!
To Style I would say: I can understand your anger or you being upset because of the attacks that keep creeping up now and then, especially from the cheerleaders that start attacking members that have a different view and opinion. (including namecalling and referring to trolls, this TG forum etc etc).
I have been a member of PI, and later PIPS since October 2003 and I will still argue, and I did argue on the original PIPS forum that I was not impressed with PIPS business practise and their management. Gary was a big joke!...unfortunately Bryan realised that too late I assume?....and guess what?....all the cult members and cheerleaders came forward and started their guriella warfare or quick ambush attack.
I knew I was right even at that time!....who told me that?....the answer was MY EXPERIENCE!...nothing more nothing less, smile!
I knew that the risk was high, and during my DD I found that the management was not willing to explain or open about their business model or business concept. (especially the security of AV and picpay). I never got an answer and decided to play my little investment and withdrawal game;..."money in and money out very quickly"...not even letting the funds remain in Available funds or picpay!...too high risk!...and to me it was a wise decision and good news!
It is interesting to observe the cheerleaders responses and their attitude towards PIPS, definitions like "brilliance", "out-of-box", "trust", "PIPS will be back".....the closest I get to a "dream world" and religious cult behavour.
To me PIPS is and was a total fiasco (when things go wrong. Really wrong. When you leave the normal realm of human error, fumble, mishap and mistake and enter the territory of really huge breakdowns) and failure!...
Healty debates and different mindset is actually bringing the world forward! ..and I am the first to admit it is not easy to remain balanced and keep the discussions on a straight line!
I do respect all members, their views and opinions including the cult members, and cheerleaders that gospel the PIPS music. However I do not respect those members that start throwing names as "troll and TG cult" at members that have different views. Who is right and who is wrong?....smile
hine