A $15,000 present for Bryan.

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03-01-2006, 10:47 AM
hassle

A $15,000 present for Bryan.

Hi all.
I'd like to put forward my idea for the new lotto.

Firstly, only allow ROLclub members to become affiliates.
A private club if you like.

Then charge those members $1 to become an affiliate.
There's your present Bryan.

Now, instead of a forced matrix we have a closed matrix system where once filled with the required 2046 members no one else can join.

With each member selling at least 3 tickets, that equals $30,360 income every week for EACH matrix.

ROLclub membership should fill at least SIX matricies.

Using Bryan's own figures I calculate that a full matrix will pay out $10,000 per week in commissions leaving over $20,000 per week for prizes, charity donations and expences etc.

THAT'S ONE MATRIX AND PER WEEK!

So, how do we make it fair for all?

We flip the matrix of course, weekly if possible.
So that level 10 becomes top level in week 2 with top level moving to level 2.

Every week the first six levels would all be in profit even if you had to buy your own tickets.

And rather than have a first come first serve system that determines your matrix position, how about this?

We purchase our affiliate for $1 using e-gold.
Then, using the last four digits of the batch number, fill the matrix with the highest number at the top.

SFIpay has the same system and also embraces mlm's.
click on my homepage for more details.

Just my thoughts.
Good luck to all.
03-01-2006, 10:55 AM
BM

Why restrict it to ROclub members and make a little each month for pips members when we can open to the world and make a lot for pips members. Plus only a small proportion of pips members belong to Rolclub.

Bryan
03-01-2006, 11:08 AM
hassle

hi bryan.
my idea would bring in over $120,000 profit / week.
over $6,000,000 per year.
I guess that must be small change to you.
oh well, I tried.
03-01-2006, 11:16 AM
BM

Before the servers went down Pipsaid was already heading to $500,000 a week and would have reached more than a million a week by March.

I am not knocking your thinking, there are a lot more people outside of ROLclub than in it, they will in time come in. Think about this little bit of trivia Texas Lottery alone turns over about $3 Billion, Missouri does about $900 Million a year.

Does it not make sense to go for the bigger prize to the benefit of pipsters.

Bryan
03-01-2006, 11:23 AM
painterb

Good Morning Bryan, (Just woke up)
I'll be heading off to work in an hour.
Will you be flipping the switch in the next few hours, or waiting till perhaps tomorrow (your time)?

painterb
03-01-2006, 11:24 AM
Wacky

My 2 cents

About Only allowing Rolclub members: It would make sense at the beginning... but it would eventually limit the income. So I would start with
Rolclub members first...
Other Pipsters second...
Rest of the world last

Just as it will happen.

About a closed matrix that reverses: There can be abbuses. I could position myself at top level and at level 10 using different details. Or I could be on top an put my wife (who will hopefully be Kristin Kreuk) at level 10.

I don't remember GoldenWomb but from what I could figure out this was the problem with it.

About charging $1: Bryan wants this to be free. If a $1 would be of any help then we could introduce it over time, say:
Free for the first 50,000
Refundable for the next 100,000
Half of it will be refunded for the next 200,000
You can exchange it for a ticket for the next 400,000
one time payment for the rest.

Or something like that.

Surely $1 is not going to break anyone's bank.

About the whole idea in geneal: Any changes that have to take place will take time to implement and test. Personally I can wait.

I think some suggestions are worth looking into even if they are not implemented... they might just spark a good idea.

My main concern for the success of this new venture is marketing. I guess those involved in the matrices will have to resolt to their resorces & word of mouth.
03-01-2006, 11:43 AM
xxf

Bryan you are entirely WRONG

Quote:

Originally Posted by BM

Plus only a small proportion of pips members belong to Rolclub.

Bryan

You are wrong on that! We are all here for the same common interest, PIPS. People come here daily to get updates on PIPS. I would not say all ROLclub members are PIPSters, but certainly not minority!

Isn't that great Bryan? We have a bunch of people here (PIPSTERS) supporting you, especially your new LOTTO thingy!

ROLclub has become so popular these days and has become a favourite place to be. I come here everyday just to check the latest! Having said that, I come here not because of ROLclub, rather because of you (yeah it's you Bryan Marsden) and PIPS! Should I say PIPS relates me to ROLclub.

Want more? Just take a look at the number of views on every thread created by you in your exclusive BM folder. Just look at those numbers? Are they not Pipsters? People come more often to ROLclub since your existence here!
People tend to like it a lot when you post, even a small post of telling what’s happening will keep them high on spirit. It looks like you are getting more and more aggressive here, with many daily posts! Lotto or not, people don't care, what they care is that their PIPS CEO, is posting haha!!!

Anyway, long story's short, I conclude that most ROLclub members are PIPSTERS, and not the other way round as Bryan stated!!

Bye!!
03-01-2006, 11:47 AM
BM

xxf,

I am not saying that the minority of rolclub members are pipsters. Rolclub has 16,000 members which is a minority of the overall membership of pips.

Bryan
03-01-2006, 11:51 AM
xxf

Oh well

Quote:

Originally Posted by hassle

hi bryan.
my idea would bring in over $120,000 profit / week.
over $6,000,000 per year.
I guess that must be small change to you.
oh well, I tried.

The figure Bryan is aiming or looking for is hundreds of millions if not billions of profit, so your idea of little $6 millions is out of his picture. :-)

Bryan, I said you have a great vision! You are simply a genius!
03-01-2006, 12:04 PM
hassle

I had the word loyalty in mind.

Bryan.
Without Marek/ROLclub there would be no lottery!
And whether you believe it or not,
YOUR MOST LOYAL MEMBERS ARE HERE.
Many 'pipsters' as you call them want you in jail!
Please think again, thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BM

Before the servers went down Pipsaid was already heading to $500,000 a week and would have reached more than a million a week by March.

I am not knocking your thinking, there are a lot more people outside of ROLclub than in it, they will in time come in. Think about this little bit of trivia Texas Lottery alone turns over about $3 Billion, Missouri does about $900 Million a year.

Does it not make sense to go for the bigger prize to the benefit of pipsters.

Bryan
03-01-2006, 12:22 PM
catja2

I don't know where you're coming from Hassle, but you are way out in left field on this one.

There are many loyal Pipsters who are not a member of this forum, either by choice or because they have been banned. There are small forums around where loyal members are discussing and exchanging news without commercialism or yelling matches between each other. (Not saying that that is all that happens here). There are also a great number of members who do not speak English and would not be a member here for that reason alone.

I also have my doubts about the exact number of members of ROL. I know many members who receive more than 1 e-mail from the admin, so I would assume that the number of members is the number of e-mail addresses in the system instead.

What do you base your statement on that without Marek or ROL there would be no lottery? Marek set up this forum against the express wishes of Bryan when the old Pips forum closed. Nevertheless they have built up a large membership (no matter what the numbers are, it is substantial), but, if I remmember correctly, the number of Pips members would run betwee 250.000 and 300.000 (not sure about the exact numbers, Bryan can correct me on this). There are many, many members who have never been on any forum but who are suppoters nevertheless. Forum dwellers are also not always posters. Only a very small amount of people keep all the forums going for varies reasons. Some like to vent their frustrations, other like to be cheerleaders.

Back to my questions above ... why would there not be a lotto with Marek? What contributions did this forum make to Bryan's effort, except for allowing a discussion on the size of the matrix? The intentions have always been based on making this a better world for all, not just for a happy few. Their are enough of those kind of ideas.

Cheers

Jan
03-01-2006, 12:25 PM
mezzy

Hassle,

Hate to tell you this, but there are many, many loyal Pipsters that belong to other forums, who for various reasons are not members of RolClub.

Marek, together with his moderators, has done an excellent job with this forum. I think though, it would be naive to believe that the "most loyal Pipsters are here". What about those on the forums where English is a second language and they use their country's forums to stay in contact and tofind out what is going on. It is where they feel more comfortable. I can assure you they would be monitoring closely all that is happening through their own means without visiting RolClub. These people, other loyal Pipsters, need to be considered as well.

(And no! the Aussie forum is not an ESL forum... just in case some of you were wondering; we do manage to speak some form of English there! :))

warm regards
mez
03-01-2006, 12:26 PM
mezzy

lol... and what Jan said too! :)
03-01-2006, 12:30 PM
catja2

....... and don't forget to read the addition by Mezzy....... never knew that there are still people downunder who consider that they speak English .....
03-01-2006, 12:54 PM
4profit

Hassle,

I think your reasoning is flawed. The silent majority of members may very well be as loyals as the members that are here.

Another flaw is you flipping mechanism.
When you flip the matrix, the levels 1 to 9 will be populated by those who were on level 10. That means that half of those who were in level 10, will end up in level 9, 25% will end up in level 8.
03-01-2006, 12:56 PM
mahoneyman

Quote:

Originally Posted by catja2

....... and don't forget to read the addition by Mezzy....... never knew that there are still people downunder who consider that they speak English .....

Please, their are still some of us Aussies, who consider that they speak English, even if they can't spell or type it properly.

The Mahoney Man
03-01-2006, 12:59 PM
catja2

I was hoping to get some reaction ...... and you're right, I wasn't serious about that part. For the rest I was ......
03-01-2006, 01:09 PM
hassle

fair enough.

4profit, you are right on both counts.
my apologies to the silent majority and for the silly flip idea.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4profit

Hassle,

I think your reasoning is flawed. The silent majority of members may very well be as loyals as the members that are here.

Another flaw is you flipping mechanism.
When you flip the matrix, the levels 1 to 9 will be populated by those who were on level 10. That means that half of those who were in level 10, will end up in level 9, 25% will end up in level 8.
03-01-2006, 03:55 PM
metanforlife

hassle,

stop being such a "hassle" go to sleep, or go back over to your other forum...
03-01-2006, 05:06 PM
omcelveen

Just my thoughts or 2 cents worth

Dear Bryan
Just want to say thanks for hanging in there for the good of us all.
I know there are many Pipsters out there that would love to hear some news from you and I realize you probably don't have access all their email adresses at this time.
I've been in network marketing for a long time so I know how fast word of mouth advertising can spread. So I would like to suggest instead of ????? Lottery
how about ????? Aid or ????? Humanitarian Aid. I think that could include and touch more people in the long run. I love the matrice and also love the ticket idea I'am just a little iffy on the lotto part.
I believe this could gain world wide support and more people will good about buying tickets and the compensation plan.
I apreciate every thing you are doing for us.

Can't hardly wait till all comes back together

omcelveen
03-01-2006, 05:20 PM
OICU812

It will be interesting to see how many people actually participate, it could be a lot less then you might think.
03-01-2006, 05:31 PM
almye

Quote:

Originally Posted by BM

Before the servers went down Pipsaid was already heading to $500,000 a week and would have reached more than a million a week by March.

I am not knocking your thinking, there are a lot more people outside of ROLclub than in it, they will in time come in. Think about this little bit of trivia Texas Lottery alone turns over about $3 Billion, Missouri does about $900 Million a year.

Does it not make sense to go for the bigger prize to the benefit of pipsters.

Bryan

I've been thinking about this.
I would think most of the money that was put in Pipsaid was from Picpay. That would seem, IMO, that some form of PIPS payment processor, and money sent to lenders, would have to be implemented to get up to where Pipsaid was before.
Al
03-01-2006, 05:51 PM
paddyfield

I represent 6 accounts, some of them multiple, on this forum, so the "member" count must be way higher than a head count.
Perm one from the other, multiply by x, add a banana, and the lotto should get off to a flying start :)
Cheers
paddy
03-01-2006, 07:14 PM
Fly

I also represent many accounts ...minimum of 14, this being another example of how many PIPSters do not frequent the forums. :smile:

I keep them informed and they want the links from me when they are available. We WANT the Matrix to grow under us ! It's a BIG WORLD out there ! ...And LOTS of people are going to want to be a part of this program ...even ones who have NEVER HEARD of PIPS before ! This is what we want for SUCCESS for ALL. :cheers:

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spudkicker
03-01-2006, 11:37 PM
chicosan

Quote:

Originally Posted by BM

Before the servers went down Pipsaid was already heading to $500,000 a week and would have reached more than a million a week by March.

I am not knocking your thinking, there are a lot more people outside of ROLclub than in it, they will in time come in. Think about this little bit of trivia Texas Lottery alone turns over about $3 Billion, Missouri does about $900 Million a year.

Does it not make sense to go for the bigger prize to the benefit of pipsters.

Bryan

Good morning Bryan. Nice hearing from you again. I agree with everything you are saying.

The unfortunate part is that there are more than PIPS members and PIPS sympathizers here. A good example is "dogman" from TG. Every day he comes in here and does what he does best....namely "cut and paste". He has over 5600 posts in TG and still hasn't said anything of value.

Others over there like notjo, dirty-bird, prophet, and a host of other malcontents continue to fuel TG with their garbage and others like dogman gobble it up and **** it out.

We ALL hope that very soon you will be able to come back with the restructured programs....proving the trolls of TG wrong again.