I feel this whole thing has taken a wrong turn.
It is we, who have loaned a company money, not the reverse. I don't feel an obligation to fulfill a dream for a company who has not fulfilled their obligations to me.
Am I the only one on this forum that feels this way?
I gave this company > $$$$.$$
My brother gave this company > $$$$$.$$
One of my friends gave this company > $$$$.$$
With all due respect, I think it is the investors who deserve to know, "What is the company going to do for me?"
IMHO, I think it is time for just a modicom of perspective, as to what has occurred during the past year.
No paybacks, no apologies, yet a suggestion to contribute more.
Are you really ready to write off an entire year of a company using your money, on the hopes that maybe 2006 will return you something?
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23-12-2005, 10:14 PM #1
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How can Bryan help our dream?
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23-12-2005, 10:34 PM #2
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Actually, it is the spirit of compassion and generosity which drew me to this particular investment, drgibble -- so yes, as an investor I am indeed desirous of obtaining a significant return on my investment; however, as an individual I am drawn to the humanitarian aspect of this program... which is why I would be delighted, when this program is moving forward again, to "gift" some of my ROI back...
In the interim, I have been blessed to make other investments which more than take care of living expenses -- this has, I know, allowed me to take a "back seat", as it were, and watch the unfolding of PIPS' progress.. It has also shown the diligence, hard work and integrity of Bryan under extremely adverse circumstances, which would have had most of the rest of us running for cover!!
Bryan has earned my respect, and I am delighted to participate in giving back.. 2005 has been a learning experience for many of us -- may 2006 shower us with prosperity!!
Happy holidays to all --
Cameron
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23-12-2005, 10:44 PM #3
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May I ask, exactly how your respect was earned?
I never went to any conventions, nor have I met any company officials.
But what I have seen, since giving this company my money, is nothing. Plain and simple.
I watched the PIPS forums for months. Noone ever offered an explanation of what was going on about withdrawals. It was always, hey, we're starting a new bank, or well, some of the company officers were not doing things right, or, the banks just can't handle our volume.
And now after a year of no money returned, what we are offered, is a chance to contribute to a lottery, with no explanation as to how it is to be run, or who will watch who picks the numbers, or who will be overseeing the distribution of money, or who will even verify that anyone actually won anything.
I think we, as investors, deserve alot more than this.
Of course, as accepted policy on this forum, it is IMHO.
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23-12-2005, 11:05 PM #4
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Of course ... and it is my belief that all will unfold with this lotto program as it becomes ready -- it's not right now, so all the information you're looking for isn't available, I assume ...
I think perhaps we all have different things that we look for when we invest. Certainly the bottom line is that we make money on our investment. But there's always more -- and although all of what you've said is true, what I see at this point is that Bryan is still here, working on our behalf, putting together yet another program to aid us on our (hopeful) path to financial freedom while assisting those that don't have the ability to participate at the same level as we do.
I'm not a Pollyanna, and taking your "$X"'s literally, it looks like I've invested more than you have, so we both want a positive outcome to PIPS. I did go into this with my eyes wide open, knowing some history and people from GW days, and met many in Hawaii, and have lost as well as gained with investments over the years.. this one, for all its 'warts' on the surface, still holds out the potential for doing more globally than any other I have participated in ... so I'm willing to wait, and keep my faith in someone who keeps working on our behalf.
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23-12-2005, 11:16 PM #5
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24-12-2005, 12:09 AM #6Originally Posted by cmquinn
Usually when searching for "Business Opportunities" or " Investment Programs"...
I try to find out "WHO is running this Business ?"...."What's HIS/HER VISION?"
" DO they have a stated Overall Purpose?"...
"Are They MOVING in that direction as a business?"
This is what I did with Pips...I Liked what I saw...and LOANED them a 5 figure amount...
MOSTLY...because of the Leaders Ambition to help the very needy...and that he not only had the ambition...he also had the COURAGE to move things in that direction....
THIS is what I see when looking back...
PART ONE
WHO is WHO?
WHO had a vision to HELP the needy and the little guy?
WHO started a company to accomplish this?
WHO made the company into a Huge WORLDWIDE membership?
WHO started a LOT of humanitarian aid projects?
WHO helped a lot of people to see a brighter future?
WHO made this into a huge success?
One don't have to guess who's who here...or..
WHO was HIRED to help CONTINUE the success?
WHO was responsible for getting more banks on the line?
WHO was responsible for getting debitcard platforms operational?
WHO was responsible for MANAGING the daily operations?
Did this WHO succeed in his work?
WHO of the above wanted to HELP others?
WHO of the above wanted first and foremost to earn a big profit as fast as possible?
Could there be conflicting interests here?
HOW can one divert the intention of one who first and foremost just want to help as many people in need as possible OVER to the intention of earning a big profit as fast as possible?
THE ANSWER.....YOU CAN'T!!!!!
THEN...what to do?
IS there maybe a way to TAKE OVER the operation????
Maybe if one IN A SECRET way started to sabotage the MONEYFLOW and then blame this on ...you know WHO...don't you!
Just MY OWN thoughts.
All The Best
Largo
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PART TWO
HOW can "the greedy ONE" get more help to sabotage?
( the greedy plotting)
HOW about hiring MY PEOPLE as employees?
HOW can I convince "the generous ONE" to agree on this action?
Well, we ARE expanding, we NEED more people AND we need NEW SERVERS...let's hire some of MY people.
Lets also recommend some of MY people to the CAPITAL COMPANY!!!
Let's see now....
HOW do we proceed?
1.Find some GREEDY people in the BANKS to work with...
2. Have a server crash so we can manipulate the MONEYFLOWS....and then blame it all on "the generous ONE"... he's the one who approves and
signs all transfers anyhow...does'nt he?
3.FIND some supporters to help with the BLAMING.
3.Start a forum for PAYING members only...by MY PEOPLE Outside.
4. Give EXCLUSIVE briefings to this people ONLY.
5.Create havoc in the payment system by implementing FRAUD in volume.
6.With the help of OUR greedy bankpeople, start freezing funds, and compile A SIGNIFICANT 8 FIGURE SUM.
7. Initiate an Investigation of "the generous ONE"....and have him removed from post.
8. In the mean time...start a NEW INVESTMENT SCHEME with the "LOYAL GREEDY PEOPLE" of ours with the help of ...A SIGNIFICANT 8 FIGURE SUM..HE HE HE.
THE OUTCOME
WHAT.....THEY DID'nt ARREST HIM?????
WHAT....ARE THE BANK INVESTIGATING US?????
BBUT...BBUT...BUT....
to be continued....
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It's only MY thoughts...
All The Best
Largo
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SO....DrGibble....WHO's Side are YOU ON?
Just Curious...
Largo
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As usual Largo........right on top of things*******
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YEESSS, Largo!!!
I'm giving you a standing ovation - what a neat way to tie it all together. Your perceptions are right on target (IMHO), & fit right in with all the different things I've also heard & read.
I'm so glad you've managed to present the 'anonymous' items in a very good, thought-provoking post! . .
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24-12-2005, 03:16 AM #9
I'll Drink to that, Largo ! Well Stated ! OH ! I'm Sure, Yogibrood will drink to that too !
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Largo ..
I like your thoughts as always ... I can hardly wait for the
REST of the STORY.
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