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    Default Well Mister GrahamB...

    Well Mister GrahamB…

    I’ve read all your messages in ROLclub….and it seems to me that you have some explaining to do….
    from the beginning you are very negative about BM’s
    business skills and accuse him of a lot wrong doing…
    Then you CHANGE to become more positive…How Come…?

    I have a question for you in the end….I can only hope that you’ll answer…

    Here is a rundown of your negative remarks against BM and positive Pipsmembers…


    16 july 2005
    you wrote:
    “I am well aware that we are a L-O-N-G way from
    being in a satisfactory position regarding withdrawal!
    My last WT was in November,
    received late December or early Jan (not sure exactly now).
    So in 7 and a half months they have paid out one month's WT!
    How long will it take to catch up? God only knows. But we can
    safely say it will take a lot longer than it should if the 'powers
    that be' don't use their brains a change the way they are
    processing things."

    August 14, 2005
    You wrote,
    “And Hey, I'm not complaining about the cost.
    It was great to get the funds after all this time,
    and it is still a GREAT ROI. I now have a theoretical
    income stream in excess of $1 Million per annum (local currency),
    which is about 16 times the national average income,
    but I cannot afford to go to the dentist
    because God (sorry, I mean Bryan) is too obsessed
    with doing things HIS way, that he will not listen to simple advise.

    Now I will sit back and wait for all that invective
    telling me how negative I am! I wonder if Methane is as
    bad for the brain as sniffing glue? Certainly too many Pipsters
    have their head up their ass!”

    August 19, 2005
    You wrote:

    “Given his inability to make basic decisions
    (like posting out ordinary cheques if he cannot get a
    bank to produce enough Bank Cheques or WTs) and
    cannot keep members updated,
    then I fear for the whole operation!

    I have offered, both on these sites and directly to BM,
    to arrange cheques virtually for free. (Mailing cost,
    printing of Cheques, and a small fixed fee per Cheque
    to pay my staff to output them.) I can do not less
    than 14,000 per week, and all he has to do is send
    me a spreadsheet in Excel!

    But the Great Man (excuse my euphemism) does not
    even deign to reply.”

    September 13, 2005
    You wrote:
    “But if Bryan wants to blame anyone for his present
    problems then he only has to look in the mirror.
    The PICPAY changes where his decisions, as was the
    decision NOT to go back to systems that worked
    (eg e-gold and e-bullion) until his preferred system
    had it's wrinkles ironed out.

    Even paying by company cheque
    (as distinct from Bank Cheques) would have solved the problem.

    Bryan's arrogance is what has put him in ythe pooh!”

    October 14, 2005
    You wrote:
    “Bryan undoubtley has to accept responsibility
    for the fiasco that is/was PICPAY.
    A half-dumb businessman could have done better!
    But business incompetence is not a sure sign
    of dishonesty, nor is it an indicator that his
    investment process is flawed.”


    And here is how you LABEL the guys who stand up for BM:
    November 7; 2005
    You wrote:
    “You give them too much credit. Many wouldn't wait
    for Bryan to tell them - they would jump
    because 'someone' posted that Bryan thought
    the jump was a good idea!”

    Then suddenly YOU CHANGE and talk in a much
    more POSITIVE manner..
    Maybe even YOU think that BM isn’t that bad
    after all as a Manager…
    OR…is THIS what you wants to happen?
    You NEEDED to align more with BM and PIPS
    so you could offer THIS again?



    November 23, You wrote:

    "A relatively inexpensive accounting program
    like MYOB can serve 10 or more computers and
    send out cheques by the hundreds every day for '
    much less than the cost of a Bank Draft, and from
    a practical standpoint, international Bank Drafts
    are still subject to a long clearance delay
    (my bank wanted 21 working days to
    clear a Malaysian Bank Draft!)
    So there is absolutely nothing to gain from
    going through such a laborious process,
    especially when it only serves to increase
    costs and bottlenecks.

    I have made the offer before, and I make it yet again.

    My company is prepared to contract a set price
    per cheque to prepare and post cheques around the world.
    I would use an account (yet to be opened, due to the
    current non-payment of PICPAY funds, but up and running
    within days of receipt of my own $5000 funding) based
    in a 'acceptable' tax haven country, so that there would
    be no problems with taxation etc.

    Set Price. No Hassles. Not less than 10,000 cheques per month!
    And my own health Loan Account as collateral for my honesty!
    What's better than that!"

    SOO…Mister GrahamB….

    What’s your ANSWER to this?

    Just Curious

    Largo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Largo
    Well Mister GrahamB…

    I’ve read all your messages in ROLclub….and it seems to me that you have some explaining to do….
    from the beginning you are very negative about BM’s
    business skills and accuse him of a lot wrong doing…
    Then you CHANGE to become more positive…How Come…?

    I have a question for you in the end….I can only hope that you’ll answer…

    Here is a rundown of your negative remarks against BM and positive Pipsmembers…


    16 july 2005
    you wrote:
    “I am well aware that we are a L-O-N-G way from
    being in a satisfactory position regarding withdrawal!
    My last WT was in November,
    received late December or early Jan (not sure exactly now).
    So in 7 and a half months they have paid out one month's WT!
    How long will it take to catch up? God only knows. But we can
    safely say it will take a lot longer than it should if the 'powers
    that be' don't use their brains a change the way they are
    processing things."

    August 14, 2005
    You wrote,
    “And Hey, I'm not complaining about the cost.
    It was great to get the funds after all this time,
    and it is still a GREAT ROI. I now have a theoretical
    income stream in excess of $1 Million per annum (local currency),
    which is about 16 times the national average income,
    but I cannot afford to go to the dentist
    because God (sorry, I mean Bryan) is too obsessed
    with doing things HIS way, that he will not listen to simple advise.

    Now I will sit back and wait for all that invective
    telling me how negative I am! I wonder if Methane is as
    bad for the brain as sniffing glue? Certainly too many Pipsters
    have their head up their ass!”

    August 19, 2005
    You wrote:

    “Given his inability to make basic decisions
    (like posting out ordinary cheques if he cannot get a
    bank to produce enough Bank Cheques or WTs) and
    cannot keep members updated,
    then I fear for the whole operation!

    I have offered, both on these sites and directly to BM,
    to arrange cheques virtually for free. (Mailing cost,
    printing of Cheques, and a small fixed fee per Cheque
    to pay my staff to output them.) I can do not less
    than 14,000 per week, and all he has to do is send
    me a spreadsheet in Excel!

    But the Great Man (excuse my euphemism) does not
    even deign to reply.”

    September 13, 2005
    You wrote:
    “But if Bryan wants to blame anyone for his present
    problems then he only has to look in the mirror.
    The PICPAY changes where his decisions, as was the
    decision NOT to go back to systems that worked
    (eg e-gold and e-bullion) until his preferred system
    had it's wrinkles ironed out.

    Even paying by company cheque
    (as distinct from Bank Cheques) would have solved the problem.

    Bryan's arrogance is what has put him in ythe pooh!”

    October 14, 2005
    You wrote:
    “Bryan undoubtley has to accept responsibility
    for the fiasco that is/was PICPAY.
    A half-dumb businessman could have done better!
    But business incompetence is not a sure sign
    of dishonesty, nor is it an indicator that his
    investment process is flawed.”


    And here is how you LABEL the guys who stand up for BM:
    November 7; 2005
    You wrote:
    “You give them too much credit. Many wouldn't wait
    for Bryan to tell them - they would jump
    because 'someone' posted that Bryan thought
    the jump was a good idea!”

    Then suddenly YOU CHANGE and talk in a much
    more POSITIVE manner..
    Maybe even YOU think that BM isn’t that bad
    after all as a Manager…
    OR…is THIS what you wants to happen?
    You NEEDED to align more with BM and PIPS
    so you could offer THIS again?



    November 23, You wrote:

    "A relatively inexpensive accounting program
    like MYOB can serve 10 or more computers and
    send out cheques by the hundreds every day for '
    much less than the cost of a Bank Draft, and from
    a practical standpoint, international Bank Drafts
    are still subject to a long clearance delay
    (my bank wanted 21 working days to
    clear a Malaysian Bank Draft!)
    So there is absolutely nothing to gain from
    going through such a laborious process,
    especially when it only serves to increase
    costs and bottlenecks.

    I have made the offer before, and I make it yet again.

    My company is prepared to contract a set price
    per cheque to prepare and post cheques around the world.
    I would use an account (yet to be opened, due to the
    current non-payment of PICPAY funds, but up and running
    within days of receipt of my own $5000 funding) based
    in a 'acceptable' tax haven country, so that there would
    be no problems with taxation etc.

    Set Price. No Hassles. Not less than 10,000 cheques per month!
    And my own health Loan Account as collateral for my honesty!
    What's better than that!"

    SOO…Mister GrahamB….

    What’s your ANSWER to this?

    Just Curious

    Largo
    Wow Largo,

    You sure are a good Sherlock Holmes. (g) We have all been on a roller coaster ride, and we are entitled to change our minds and opinions when new facts present themselve, so if GrahamB is coming back to the light, welcome him as we need all the help we can muster to stay positive.

    Good luck to all, Mike

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    this is FORUM for gods sake....... no..... its turning into a joke!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com
    Wow Largo,

    You sure are a good Sherlock Holmes. (g) We have all been on a roller coaster ride, and we are entitled to change our minds and opinions when new facts present themselve, so if GrahamB is coming back to the light, welcome him as we need all the help we can muster to stay positive.

    Good luck to all, Mike

    ...And So I DID earlier....
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    Originally Posted by GrahamB
    Now I know how to become a senior member!

    Post totally inconsequential and unnecessary messages that chase themselves like a cat after it's own tail!!

    I think I will happily stay a (conservatively and intellegently) quiet junior member!

    GrahamB



    Hello to you too...:):):)

    All The Best

    Largo

    .................................................. ............................................

    Notice the FRIENDLY welcome above from HIM to Me...
    when answering my FIRST thread to say hello to all...
    ...and my FRINDLY Answer...

    All The Best

    Largo

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    **chuckling from under the snooker table**
    ****What the &^*% is a snooker table anyway???****


    I didnt know that cats chased their own tails..I thought only dogs did that :)

    Cheers
    Roo


    Quote Originally Posted by Largo
    ...And So I DID earlier....
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GrahamB
    Now I know how to become a senior member!

    Post totally inconsequential and unnecessary messages that chase themselves like a cat after it's own tail!!

    I think I will happily stay a (conservatively and intellegently) quiet junior member!

    GrahamB



    Hello to you too...:):):)

    All The Best

    Largo

    .................................................. ............................................

    Notice the FRIENDLY welcome above from HIM to Me...
    when answering my FIRST thread to say hello to all...
    ...and my FRINDLY Answer...

    All The Best

    Largo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Underroo
    **chuckling from under the snooker table**
    ****What the &^*% is a snooker table anyway???****
    Roo
    It's a funky pool table with small rounded pockets and has entirely too many balls on top if it...But we digress...LOL

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    Default Get a life Largo!

    The answers to your (implicit) questions:
    1. No you cannot be the leader of my fan club - my wife claims that position.
    2. No, I don't give a rip if there are minor inconsistencies between my posts, because life changes, the facts as we know them change, and my appreciation of the best way to deal with them develops.
    3. No I am not changing my mind - I have consistently said that:
    a. Bryan has screwed up in the management of the funds transfer from PICPAY. Sad but true.
    b. Bryan is not scamming us - the logical development of a scam is not present, and there are clear indicators as to his honesty.
    c. The 2% program is conceptually brilliant and we should be thankful for Bryan's vision in that regard. (Yes you can critise Bryan in one area and still admire aspects of his performance/achievement).
    d. A viable alternative to electronic payment systems that clearly are not presently working, lies in either a return to e-gold/e-bullion; a joint-venture with londongoldexchange.com; or 'company'' (as distinct from 'Bank') cheques. And
    e. I am prepared to undertake the preparation and distribution of those cheques on a 'not for profit' or 'cover my costs' basis.

    Now go find something useful to do: personally I have three companies to run, and much better things to do with my time and my life than 'listen' to you blathering on without benefit of logical thought!

    Regards
    GrahamB
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamB
    The answers to your (implicit) questions:
    1. No you cannot be the leader of my fan club - my wife claims that position.
    2. No, I don't give a rip if there are minor inconsistencies between my posts, because life changes, the facts as we know them change, and my appreciation of the best way to deal with them develops.
    3. No I am not changing my mind - I have consistently said that:
    a. Bryan has screwed up in the management of the funds transfer from PICPAY. Sad but true.
    b. Bryan is not scamming us - the logical development of a scam is not present, and there are clear indicators as to his honesty.
    c. The 2% program is conceptually brilliant and we should be thankful for Bryan's vision in that regard. (Yes you can critise Bryan in one area and still admire aspects of his performance/achievement).
    d. A viable alternative to electronic payment systems that clearly are not presently working, lies in either a return to e-gold/e-bullion; a joint-venture with londongoldexchange.com; or 'company'' (as distinct from 'Bank') cheques. And
    e. I am prepared to undertake the preparation and distribution of those cheques on a 'not for profit' or 'cover my costs' basis.

    Now go find something useful to do: personally I have three companies to run, and much better things to do with my time and my life than 'listen' to you blathering on without benefit of logical thought!

    Regards
    GrahamB
    Thank you for your OPINIONS...
    I do still have mine...though...

    Regards

    Largo

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    I was trying not to say anything, but I don't think that was very nice of you to attack GrahamB.... Why Largo? :(

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    Hi Largo,
    Bless you. I don't think its fair to put GrahamB on a conspiracy list or others that want answers and to suggest/offer a little help (GrahamB, thank you). Bryan has already thanked all for the support and has stated that there is not a thing that can be done until servers etc. are back. We know this. We All want to help but, our hands are tied. So are our Bryan's. Lets just keep positive and if its meant to be, its meant to be,. Ok? Each of us is an entity unto our ourselves in this life and we all want what's best. We all have questions and, we all want answers in and out throughout our lives. It is not wrong to question. That's how most of us learn. I know that Bryan reads this forum and has taken some of the member's suggestions to heart. We can all get along respecting each other's view. No need to pick someone apart due to their uncertainties or what have you. We are human after all and as you know, being as spiritual as you like to show in your posts, then you would know it is unhealthy to hold any questions (greivances or the lot,) that are close to your heart. I too have followed your posts and was quite pleased with what your beliefs are. Yet you seem to forget that there are other entities such as youself, that have as much right to "question" and "suggest" as you do. Let the light fill you again and be happy Largo. We are all souls in this life. We are all learning and experiencing and that also includes human emotion. Bless us all in this school that we call earth. We Deserve it!

    Love, Light, and Togetherness,

    Loki

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