I'm staggered

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31-10-2005, 08:14 AM
jolasers

I'm staggered

I'm staggered why anybody would believe what is posted, that contradicts what Bryan is telling us. The question I keep asking myself is WHY would Bryan continue to post if he had something to hide. WHY wouldn't he just go to ground and ignore everybody if he was guilty of criminal activity. What would he have to gain if he was guilty of something, by coming and posting in this forum. It doesn't make sense does it? And for those who don't believe that it is Bryan posting, I suggest that they look pessimist up in the dictionary

I'm sorry if I am covering old ground and this has been discussed before. We seem to cover the same old ground again and again. Its like the wagon wheel going around and around.

I also feel that the larger wagon wheel has almost turned a full circle. A few rotten spokes have been replaced. Now the wagon will gain momentum again and lets hope its forward progress is unhindered.

Wagons Forward Ho.
31-10-2005, 04:19 PM
Offshore-Wealth.com

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jolasers

I'm staggered why anybody would believe what is posted, that contradicts what Bryan is telling us. The question I keep asking myself is WHY would Bryan continue to post if he had something to hide. WHY wouldn't he just go to ground and ignore everybody if he was guilty of criminal activity. What would he have to gain if he was guilty of something, by coming and posting in this forum. It doesn't make sense does it? And for those who don't believe that it is Bryan posting, I suggest that they look pessimist up in the dictionary

I'm sorry if I am covering old ground and this has been discussed before. We seem to cover the same old ground again and again. Its like the wagon wheel going around and around.

I also feel that the larger wagon wheel has almost turned a full circle. A few rotten spokes have been replaced. Now the wagon will gain momentum again and lets hope its forward progress is unhindered.

Wagons Forward Ho.

Interesting,

I agree, it would make no sense at all to even be heard, never mind seen if he was a scammer. Heck, in the dangerous world we live in, a scammer of this magnitude would end up you know where if found, so again, I agree, it would not make no sense at all to post here.

Good luck to all, Mike
31-10-2005, 04:25 PM
joecap

I completely agree. Bryan would have absolutely nothing to gain by posting this info if he had dishonest intentions. So, the only real question is can we be sure that this is really Bryan doing the posting?

I am not saying I don't believe it is him, I AM saying that if it IS him, then we should have absolutley nothing to worry about, everything will be fine.

I truly hope it works out, because while I really need the money to help my family, I will return my blessings to those in need as well.

Joe Cap.
31-10-2005, 04:43 PM
itzme

One has to remember the biggest problem was with PICPAY.....

Bryan being the CEO is responsible for all activities in all the companies...

There was a lot of money entering PICPAY, in very large amount, most of those
deposits were from questionable sources, some smart people had found a way to
use PICPAY to carry on their money laundering business. PIPS management were not
paying attention and not doing any checking about the money entering PICPAY.

Bryan is responsible because he is the CEO, he is responsible for his employees,
even if he was not directly involved with those large funds entering PICPAY.
As seen by the BoN, there was some problems with the movement of funds with PIPS.
Hopefully BoN will not terminate PIPS, there will be some serious recommendations as
to how PIPS will do business in the future to block those trying to use PIPS as a money
laundering machine.

The worst outcome will be that Bryan will have to pay a fine because he is the CEO
and responsible for what was going in his companies.

i
31-10-2005, 04:52 PM
mrlover

I would like to say to you this way and you give your thoughts on that
If I was a scammer and all I want is get the and run this is what I would do.
1. Get everybody to send me money and make them feel great about the program.
2. Wouldn't show my face to anyone so when I run no one would find me.
3. Wouldn't open a resturant and a bistro and a movie company that is money I could keep.
4. Wouldn't spen $ millions on a convention when my company is not paying anyone that's money I would keep.
SO ON SO ON

That is how I look at it and that's what give's me faith and hope that PIPS would be back and BM in not a scammer and it a real company and it would be back.
01-11-2005, 01:29 PM
4profit

itzme wrote:

Quote:

There was a lot of money entering PICPAY, in very large amount, most of those
deposits were from questionable sources, some smart people had found a way to
use PICPAY to carry on their money laundering business. PIPS management were not
paying attention and not doing any checking about the money entering PICPAY.

You should be careful. You are posting assumptions as facts. How would you know this for sure?
There may have been questionable funds in picpay, but we do not know this.
Most problems with picpay stemmed from creditcard fraud as far as we know.
01-11-2005, 07:06 PM
Tradewinds

I thought that's what he meant by 'questionable sources.'
02-11-2005, 11:10 PM
4profit

Well, if that is what he meant, his statement is certainly untrue as that would not have been the majority of the deposits (thank god)
02-11-2005, 11:47 PM
benzboy

Mrlover

I totally agree, with you and your post. Didn't several hundred if not thousands of people put the kind of almost god like worship in a man named Xavier of Freeland opp and you never saw him did not know if that was his real name, did not know where he lived or how to reach him and he took off with millions of dollars never to be found? What you are saying makes real sense, Byran is way to visible on many levels and would never try a stunt like that! Thanks for your well thought out post
Benzboy
03-11-2005, 02:24 AM
skylark58

Quote:

Originally Posted by itzme

One has to remember the biggest problem was with PICPAY.....

Bryan being the CEO is responsible for all activities in all the companies...

There was a lot of money entering PICPAY, in very large amount, most of those
deposits were from questionable sources, some smart people had found a way to
use PICPAY to carry on their money laundering business. PIPS management were not
paying attention and not doing any checking about the money entering PICPAY.

Bryan is responsible because he is the CEO, he is responsible for his employees,
even if he was not directly involved with those large funds entering PICPAY.
As seen by the BoN, there was some problems with the movement of funds with PIPS.
Hopefully BoN will not terminate PIPS, there will be some serious recommendations as
to how PIPS will do business in the future to block those trying to use PIPS as a money
laundering machine.

The worst outcome will be that Bryan will have to pay a fine because he is the CEO
and responsible for what was going in his companies.

i

I might be wrong but according to what I read in the old PIP forum, the
largest individual loan was $300,000 and the source of this fund and the other
large loans could be from liquidated pensions, 401ks, mutual funds and stocks, bank savings, and even cashouts from home equity loans of members of which can be considered as clean funds and for this matter must have increased in ROL amount to 1 mil or more if left to grow for a year or so.

I don't know but I was not motivated to participate with any of the 3%
pooled funds that were collected by some groups. The thing is-members have questioned about it of what happened to those pooled funds collected together into one or more as large account(s) and if by any chance those
large amount were move out of pip/picpay not once but several times to trigger for any money laundering activity.