About responsible posting....

A few people are complaining on other forums about their posts getting deleted and their threads getting locked, or about being put on read only status or getting banned altogether... and all they did was "ask reasonable and intelligent questions" and/or "state an opinion that is contrary to what most are posting".

I just have to say...oh boo hoo. NOT.
(insert little smiley playing violin)

Listen, there is a HUGE difference between asking reasonable and intelligent questions and BADGERING the entire forum and hijacking every single thread with these questions!!

And even when these questions are responded to, the responses are not even considered before being swat down and the badgering continued ad nauseum.

Now, I saw some of these questions get some very good answers on nair's forum... REALLY well answered by kind patient people and yet, the badgering continues as apparently reasonable and intelligent responses are not enough. Makes one wonder if you are actually looking for answers!

There is no problem with having a different opinion or asking questions, but posting them in a machine-gun like fashion in every single thread, over and over and over again, makes everyone want to rip your faces off and no one can even take you seriously anymore. You become simply an annoyance and are your own worst enemy.

So consider what it is to post responsibly, even if it is an unpopular question or opinion and allow people to respond responsibly as well or don't be so astonished and offended when admin and mods take action.

It is not the questions/opinions that are getting removed, it is the ATTITUDE with which you post them. Lose the attitude, play fair and I imagine you can post your questions and opinions when you like.

Just my humble opinion of course....

:rant:

Thank you Suzanna

Very good post. I hope rough waters will come down in our Forums. We need to act as adults and think before post something that would hurt image of PIPS business.

Very good post Suzanna. You are so right about people being slammed as soon as they post a reply where they might disagree with someone else. We are all allowed to have our opinons and should be able to expresse them in a polite manner. Those that hijack threads, post the same thing in multi-threads are only trying to cause problems. Forum members also need to know how to use the search function as a large part of the time questions are ask that have just recently been ask and answered even it the same thread that they are reading.

suzanna!

....a very nice post and worthwile reading!

however, I decided not to post my own personal views on this forum!....
...instead it seems that blah blah and amen posts and those agreeing with the cheerleaders are ok and accepted!


thanks!

hine

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Originally Posted by hine

suzanna!

....a very nice post and worthwile reading!

however, I decided not to post my own personal views on this forum!....
...instead it seems that blah blah and amen posts and those agreeing with the cheerleaders are ok and accepted!


thanks!

hine

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Agreed ;-)

The members who really and truly believes in the integrity of BM and PIPS, their faith can not be shattered by some opposing views or questions regardless of how critical or persistent they may be. Sorry I don’t see what the problem is here.

I have seen some of these questions several times now.

About deleting the Treads:
1. Sometimes there is so many confusing and negative posts in a Tread, that Admin decide to delete the whole Tread. Unfortunadedly the good posts in the same tread disapears at the same time. But deleting the Tread was to the better for all of us. I have honestly been happy more than once because a certain Tread was deleted or locked. If its'nt to the better for Pips, we don't need it anyway. Rollclub is for the Pips supporters, asking serious questions. Very good post indeed Suzanna, about responsible posting!

About The Kids Bible paying for the defence:
2. The Pips Bible question has been answered before. They are a new company. Do you know any new company wich don't need more money and don't need to take care of the expences? I don't. If the Kids Bible had been an old company, then I'm sure they would have had a lot of money. But today? No. I am sure of that Tom already has been giving all he can.

About posts who tells that the bank says that Pips doesn't need the fund and legal defence. It must be some very big misunderstandings here. Please use your common sense!
3. We all know that the bank will non-freeze the money Bryan need for living and for necessary legal defense. But he is not charged yet! The bank will ONLY give him what's really needed. Remember, the bank is not a "friend", they only do what they have to do. In fact the bank is the "enemy", the other part in this case.

Think about this: If you had a serious case would you sit down and wait until someone maybe or maybe not charged you? And if you weren't charged anyway, but there where still a lot of legal matters to sort out and a lot of money involved (right now it's our money!). Would you sit down and do nothing? Not even help yourself to solve the case faster? Probably not.

If I had a case, I would sure prepare myself. Because if the enemy attacked me, I would be able to defend myself and even win the battle.

Legal defence and legal advice is important to anyone who have a case. Also to Pips. It maybe not be “needed” but it will sure help!

If the BMP Helpfund can help Bryan to raise Pips faster, that’s great. If legal defense wasn’t helpful, I am sure Bryan would already have told us about that long time ago. But we all know that preperation and seeking legal defence is always wise, when you have a serious case with a lot of money involved too. It’s COMMON SENSE!

And you can’t listen to the bank or those who tell: Do nothing! Because the bank is not a Pipsfriend! The bank is the other part of this case, the “enemy”. Do you seriously listen to your enemies and seeking legal advice from your enemy? I don’t. And I wouldn’t recommend Bryan to do it either.

No. Better to be prepared and seek good legal advice to help Pips running again, as soon as possible.

Just remember what Bryan told you. “I would like to tell you more, but I can’t.” But even if he cannot say too much. We can still help of our own good and free will.

I know we can trust Tom and the other faithful Pipsters who are running the BMP Helpfund. I am sure the money will be used the right way to the better for all of us.

If you don’t think so: Leave this Forum. Rollclub is not for everybody. It is for the Pips Supporters. And if you don’t like that. Make a choice. Support or help or go away. We, nor Pips and Bryan need your confusing and negative posts who tells us not to help, that Pips don’t need any legal advice etc. etc. Everybody who have a serious case needs legal help, support and advice!!!!

As soon as I get my wages later in October, I will send money to the Pipstes BMP Helpfund. I suggest you do the same. We are doing this for ourselves, remember! If you only have $10-25, send what you can! No amount is too little. A lots of little, makes a lot! Let’s get Pips back!

That's very encouraging and with such "common sense" hindsight you uphold, I do hope it sends a clear message for some who are "torns" while sitting & deciding why sitting on the fence isn't helpful either.... one is either FOR IT or back away with silence and leave those who have and feel committed, to do what is necessary ....in peace and harmony here....

Those who want to cry foul.... go take your crocodile sympathies to the wailing wall instead.... and get pelted by the Orthodox Jews there....

What is undertaken and pursued by thse feeling responsible, should be left to do their part without these so-called "supporters that barks with no teeth" handed out, only bad breath full of BS and anti-Pips underlying within their negative posts.

YB.

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Originally Posted by YogiBrood

That's very encouraging and with such "common sense" hindsight you uphold, I do hope it sends a clear message for some who are "torns" while sitting & deciding why sitting on the fence isn't helpful either.... one is either FOR IT or back away with silence and leave those who have and feel committed, to do what is necessary ....in peace and harmony here....

Those who want to cry foul.... go take your crocodile sympathies to the wailing wall instead.... and get pelted by the Orthodox Jews there....

What is undertaken and pursued by thse feeling responsible, should be left to do their part without these so-called "supporters that barks with no teeth" handed out, only bad breath full of BS and anti-Pips underlying within their negative posts.

YB.

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I find this absolutely astonishing that the "Anti-P*PS"
group would resort to this kind of BS!
Yes, that's what it is, BS!

I also find it hilarious that this same group is so
mortaly afraid of a few folks donating to BMs' Fund.
My question would be; "What's the harm?"
If folks want to donate, what's that to you?
Why do you care one way or another?

Dear P*psters, if you haven't figured this out by now:
WE ARE AT WAR! These, oh so helpful folks, that are so
concerned about OUR money, ARE THE ENEMY AND ARE
SCARED SPITLESS THAT BM WILL COME AFTER THEM
WHEN P*PS IS UP AND RUNNING AGAIN.

These are the same crooks that caused this entire mess
to begin with and now we're supposed to listen to them?

I DON'T THINK SO!

The Brass Balls of these people is just beyond
comprehension.

Warmest regards to all,
Flyfishing

We all hope Bryan has the last laugh here and brings them all down the way they tried to bring him down.

I think we all need help with responsible posting...you too grey

Grey!
Where's The Proof ?
You Don't Have It, Do You? If You Do, Then Bring It On !!! Otherwise!!! Just Go Away!!!

do you see the light?

I would appreciate if a moderate would delete this trash (all his posts) and ban this user.
We have a TG troll on the forum (again).

No place for this garbage.