Thread: Bmdf Pips Update 4/10/05(discussion here)

Dear Nelson Lee,
I am confused. Bryan is sending messages now and seems to be all for the defense fund which is being established. Some have reported that he is needing funds to pay the defense team badly. Why do you say we would be hindering things by doing this? What on earth can it hurt? Even if he doesn't use it all, he has such integrity he would return it, probably with interest when he is free to do so.
Could you please explain why?

hzchoice

go away superman5

thankyou for this thread for clarification purposes....I am waiting to see the outcome because I have $ ready to send to the defense fund.
jbux

sorry superman. go away nelsonlee

Just who is collecting this money for the "defense fund"?

PIPS Pioneers that know Bryan personally are managing the funds and getting them where they need to go.

Nelsonlee is trying to help, but in this case I think he is being misled by his source (at the bank). I do not think the bank is on our side given things I have heard about some of the interviews.

In any case, we now have DIRECT CONTACT with Bryan, so I would think that the Boss would take precedent over Nelsonlee, no matter how much we appreciate Nelson's posts in general.

What does it take to get through to you Pipsters??
Bryan has pointed out in his recent posts that he is disappointed that members are trying to stop the collection of the fund to aid in PIPS defence.

The TG folks are claiming that they will go to Paypal and have any funds collected for PIPS frozen by Paypal.

Still there are members who -- say -- I am pledging my support to PIPS and Bryan --but Bryan has to ask personally for these funds before I will give anything. ( the only problem is if he does --then they will claim it's not Bryan).

Can you the real PIPS members not see that there are 2 sides to this -- either you give what you can give or just be quiet if you cannot give anything--- or you are joining the TG folks to stir up turmoil and cause some who would give to not do so.

You can post all you want that you are a loyal member and you need to know etc -- it does not make no never mind -- you either give or not ---- Just don't join the TG folks in trying to stop this from happening.

The collection will be made regardless of the TG folks or the misguided members and PIPS will survive. Let's just hope you will be able to say you were one that helped and that when you are cashing that check you will feel like you deserve it and nnot have to say you wished you would have done something to help like some others who are digging deep to help.

You might be the most deserving person in all of PIPS, that deserves to be sat down and have answers to all your questions -- you will not get any answers here, and you know it -- so ask yourself -- just why do you continue to post asking for answers??? THose of you responding to these poeple who have this god given right to get answers -- did it ever occur to you that you do not have the answer, and they know that you do not have the answer -- so you can ask yourself. Why do they keep asking you these questione if they know that you do not have the answer and that you have no way of getting these answers ????

THe answers will come after PIPS is released and Bryan is free to discuss these topics -- He has pointed out in his recent posts -- that he cannot say any more. This means no more so why is anyone asking questions ????

What purpose will it serve for Bryan to keep saying he cannot say any more if this is just ignored and these questions keep getting posted ????????

Robert.

Good Post Weseeall

Great post Robert

Mods....I think its time to lock this thread.

Jerry

I agree Mo !! I will lock it........