Thread: Starting point of new structure

Interesting,

It is always nice to read posts of speculation and assumptions, especially positive ones, but I don't see any relevance in this scenario. First off, there has been no economic disaster, which Bryan had stated over and over must happen before we would get some kind of percentage of what was left, so did I miss the economic meltdown?

As to the speculation on restructured program, again, unless everyone is paid what they were promised short of an economic meltdown, this will be the only true measure of the words of assurance we have all heard from the very beginning.

The only thing left for speculation is whether or not we were all told the truth or not. I sure hope so, but sadly, we will have to wait and see if the billions were ever more than virtual, and again, I sincerely hope so for all our sake. Anything less will say finally tell us the truth unless we all missed the economic meltdown.

Good luck to all, Mike

Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com

Interesting,

It is always nice to read posts of speculation and assumptions, especially positive ones, but I don't see any relevance in this scenario. First off, there has been no economic disaster, which Bryan had stated over and over must happen before we would get some kind of percentage of what was left, so did I miss the economic meltdown?

As to the speculation on restructured program, again, unless everyone is paid what they were promised short of an economic meltdown, this will be the only true measure of the words of assurance we have all heard from the very beginning.

The only thing left for speculation is whether or not we were all told the truth or not. I sure hope so, but sadly, we will have to wait and see if the billions were ever more than virtual, and again, I sincerely hope so for all our sake. Anything less will say finally tell us the truth unless we all missed the economic meltdown.

Good luck to all, Mike

Hey can't you read english?

There is no meltdown, this has been used as an example to show what would happen if the fund would collapse...

In the same reasoning now that Bryan has been unable to trade for the last 2 months... and probably further back, it does mean that the same scenario will apply, but to a lesser degree!

From your response, I suppose you think that trading has been business as usual?

Did you not read the report from the Hawaii convention, that already then Bryan was getting problems with Banks holding on to his funds and preventing him from investing as normal with the subsequent loss of earnings of $100M.
Can you imagine how much more this has happemed from March 2005 to when the site closed down and beyong??

That is why Bryan has to restructure! And that is why he will find the right formula to ensure every member earns in future!

spongebob

Originally Posted by spongebob

Hey can't you read english?

There is no meltdown, this has been used as an example to show what would happen if the fund would collapse...

In the same reasoning now that Bryan has been unable to trade for the last 2 months... and probably further back, it does mean that the same scenario will apply, but to a lesser degree!

From your response, I suppose you think that trading has been business as usual?

Did you not read the report from the Hawaii convention, that already then Bryan was getting problems with Banks holding on to his funds and preventing him from investing as normal with the subsequent loss of earnings of $100M.
Can you imagine how much more this has happemed from March 2005 to when the site closed down and beyong??

That is why Bryan has to restructure! And that is why he will find the right formula to ensure every member earns in future!

spongebob

spongebob,

Mike is not saying this at all. He's just reiterating a perfectly normal and sensible comment that he hopes the billions were there all along and not just virtually.

Don't jump down someone's throat because they have other views, that is the whole idea of forums.

Spongebob, Did Patrick and Squidward give you that scenario?

Mike

Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com

Interesting,

It is always nice to read posts of speculation and assumptions, especially positive ones, but I don't see any relevance in this scenario. First off, there has been no economic disaster, which Bryan had stated over and over must happen before we would get some kind of percentage of what was left, so did I miss the economic meltdown?

As to the speculation on restructured program, again, unless everyone is paid what they were promised short of an economic meltdown, this will be the only true measure of the words of assurance we have all heard from the very beginning.

The only thing left for speculation is whether or not we were all told the truth or not. I sure hope so, but sadly, we will have to wait and see if the billions were ever more than virtual, and again, I sincerely hope so for all our sake. Anything less will say finally tell us the truth unless we all missed the economic meltdown.

Good luck to all, Mike

Very rational and professional assessment!

thanks Mike

OK then I give up!

You will just have to see for yourselves when the time comes!

I am outa here!

spongebob

Sorry, Spongebob - your post is pure speculation. Bryan did make some allusions to the problems with banks, etc., at the Hawaii convention (most of which I have recorded) and he did state that it would take a disaster in the market to stop PIPS. Well, there have been a few 'disasters' in the world and these MAY have had an adverse effect on PIPS, but in reality Bryan probably overreached - as suggested by the 'London consultants.'

Your statement (or mantra?) "MONEY IN, WILL ALWAYS BE EQUAL TO MONEY OUT..." I have never found to be true. Let's not forget expenses, wages, legal and other consultant's fees, theft, embezzlement, etc., etc.

In truth, MONEY OUT IS ALWAYS LESS THAN MONEY IN - in any human endeavor, be it your home, your town (or city), or your country. A reasonable expectation as to our returns in the case of liquidation of PIPS might range anywhere from 5% to 25% of our original 'investment (based on liquidation of similar programs).

Regards -

WallyD2

You agree with "The London consultants" Is that how it is?

Well, these London consultants have names.
They are now involved in almost any so called save-the-pipster program (aka line -my pocket program) that is around.

In my opinion these guys have misused the trust that was put in them and for that matter I do not believe a single word they have posted in the past.

Even if it is true, it is downright immoral to post the information they supposedly received in the course of their activities on behalf of P.

Yes, I think they are part of the rat pack, along with the former PIPS legal "team" and other management. All those fine fellows that have brought us to where we are today.
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