Hi YB,
I appreciate all that you are doing on our behalf….keep up the good work
Regards
Bulan
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Hi YB,
I appreciate all that you are doing on our behalf….keep up the good work
Regards
Bulan
Here is another situation for would-be Claimants to consider.
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Hi YB, I registered a few other people from my funds at the time….do you need to know the names of these people and their sign in....
Hi RC Member,
ROLClub username overrides as default and not or any of the PIPS login details as they don't exists (legally speaking). Hence, your ROLClub username is the one to reflect our handling as reference here.
Concerning others, If you so choose to become their proxy in all the claims and they agree to it, why not? Otherwise, any transacted amount showing them as the actual beneficiary to the monies refunded/disbursed, would be considered as a separate claim and only they have the right to the Refund as individual Claimants.
Discuss with them and if you feel less messy down this option, then they had better register first and foremost with ROLClub Forum before anything else can proceed. Your own claim status remains unchanged.
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Full name: RC Member
Rolclub username: RC Member
Method of transfer (PicPay,E-Gold,Bank,CC etc...): No info found
Amount ($0000 USD or yr local currency): No records found, however I am an investor. I lived through all this mess.
Please advise on whether or not you can find my records with my past address and name. I appreciate your help.
Hi RC Member,
Our next attempt will stay in pursuit based similarly on the first attempt which fortunately proved a success.
ROLClub as such, is a forum on the Net and fundamentally is not in the business of getting involved with Legal proceedings.
We can and will pursue a path in assisting and helping manage the initial stages that will eventually be left and taken over by the approve offices of a reliable and dedicated Law Office to represent the cause.
Until such time can be determined, all our efforts are based on Members own evidence and documentation that are readily available for submission to qualify acceptance for approval to a Claim or claims as proxy for others on their behalf.
We are not an "investigative" body nor is in any position to undertake such a task, we are a Forum where all issues are discussed for exploitation. the gathering & collection of physical proof has to be borne by the individuals themselves without any obligation to the forum.
I will list you only if and when I am given the assurance from you that you can substantiate some physical proof like printed documents etc with or through the Bank, pdf etc...
YB.
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Neither nrs. is actually relevant to us during the process. Besides, we did NOT ask about your bank details, just the method of Transfer. It will be verified again (by you at a later stage) when such specific details are needed when the Lawyer (s) Office requires them otherwise you won't ever receive your refund when transfers are executed.Quote:
Originally Posted by RC Member
I agree with you Yogi, there is strength in numbers. I am hitting various forums passing the word about our next attempt. Hopefully people will take me seriously.
That is a great move & initiative contributed.:ro_emote:
For those diligently reading the posts, I hope you all understand that it is my hope and wish that we get a high number possible, touching the 3-nines if you will because, this is going to be slightly different and MUCH MORE challenging than the 1st attempt and raising hopes is one good thing but without true numbers to back the scope & claims, it can become "costly" in whichever way you look at it so, with a HUGE number to represent, so is our bargaining (which is partly involved as always with darn lawyers!!!) strategy strengthened as well...:wigged: so Claimants & numbers!!! is our primary goal at this moment. :wigged:
We worry about the fees and funding for later... I want it to be far less this time round than what the 18 Claimants went through and had to put up with....
YB.
Thanks for the opportunity and information. Count me in.
Staying the course! Thanks YB
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ROLClub as such, is a forum on the Net and fundamentally is not in the business of getting involved with Legal proceedings.
We can and will pursue a path in assisting and helping manage the initial stages that will eventually be left and taken over by the approve officers of a reliable and dedicated Law Office to represent the cause.
Until such time can it be determined, all our efforts are based on Members own evidence and documentation that are readily available for submission to qualify acceptance for approval to a Claim or claims as proxy for others on their behalf.
We, ROLCLub Forum, is not an "investigative" body nor is in any position to undertake such a task, we are a Forum where all issues are discussed for exploitation. The gathering & collection of physical proof has to be borne& presented by the said individuals themselves without any obligation to the forum. It is undoubtedly a voluntary undertaking, if you have any, you DO IT or you DON'T, plain & simple.
You will be listed only if and when you can give the assurance that you still have or can substantiate some physical proof like printed documents etc with or through the Bank, pdf etc... You don't have to prove it to YogiBrood, it is for the Lawyers when they inevitably need to file it in preparation for presenting YOURS and others with the claim.
We don't nor plan to head-start without any funds, and assign someone, plucked out of the blue and assign him/her to some authorities making claims (with/without Legal representation) and demanding that they (those suspected of having YOUR money albeit impounded or not from Bryan Marsden) should start the ball rolling etc... WHO's going to fund this for a start and how do you plan to go about with this undertaking with an empty budget?
You are right to a certain point in perceiving it that way, nothing out of the ordinary. However, Malaysia and the circumstances there which took place was just an unusual situation where only the Authorities there can give and stand by with their argument in carrying out the way THEY see fit and we have no say nor influence to change their minds.Quote:
Hi RC Member,
This is an interesting mail from you which I shall address it but within the Forum so others will gain from knowing it.
Please look it up at the forum thread instead.
YB.
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:18 PM, <RC Member> wrote:
YB,
Usually when these issues go to legal, the legal and bookeeping is able to ascertain who is involved and the records will show each investors (suckers) involvement. What I'm saying is that if you are going through the process, my records will show up. I don't remember how much I put in, why would I? Its been years and I can't keep all records. All we heard was BM was charged, jailed and he should still be there. It sounded like it was done.
Please tell me why you think my records can't be found. Legally the records will show up, if the BM books are being looked at. I'll have to wait for that and I trust you can accommodate me on this.
Thanks
I. M.
In any country, one always face the good, bad and much more ugly side of things and this may be one of them .
Your records MAY BE there and archived or destroyed.... its anyone's guess but the other thing is, the case and trial of BM and his imprisonment, however short than deserving, is a CLOSED case and by that, whoever and whatever other means is needed to undo the trial and delve deeper into the Bank's controversial history involving the impounding of all assets & properties related to BM and his company, was carried out under their Laws they have & execute over there.
After experiencing the process that confronted the first attempt, I can safely add that it is NOT the way you thought should have worked out where the public can allege and the Authorities have to prove they are themselves guilty and so should be the ones to disprove the guilt by presenting whatever they have, to prove they are not.... I'm afraid, it didn't work that way and that is not likely to change either.
It's a Muslim country, and that is one BIG factor to bear in mind and what they want or say and think.... goes according to how they see it fit & proper with their final ruling on any matters. Even the Lawyers and the Justice system is governed by this manner which runs through the veins of that country.
I am sure your proof is somewhere there but due to your membership with RC and probable distancing or staying away from the developments that took place concerning the Trial Coverage, you made that choice and defaulted yourself with any possibility you were given to get on board, when we launched it end of 2006 until the final months in 2010 and culminating with the refund payouts in early Spring 2011.
Now that it is over and done with, we have to move forward and those that missed the boat the first time round, still have a good chance again but it will be on another turf, somewhere else i.e. outside Malaysia.
I can't answer WHERE that might be as it is too early now to predict or speculate but then again, ROLClub is not going down that lane to stir up out of nothing or without any strong movement building up first & foremost.
This needs time and good, careful consolidation among the strength and size of members wanting to be part of it and someday, we might just get to see it being fought out through a reliable Court in a country where BM can be legally indicted again and be charged for scamming all of you.
YB.
thank you so much for your help i hope we will get our money back thanks again chicken salad
:cheer: U R welcome and that depends on how "many" claimants make up the sauce for the appetizing salad of yours!!! LoL....
Yes, lets hope we will by end July get to see a significant list compiled and I will have Stage TWO set in and hopefully, many can throw in their warm towels with interaction as we begin a strategy, so be prepared and pen down your thoughts, suggestions, tips and whatever else YOU may have in the meantime from last week to end July, have done for your part to accumulate any helpful contributions to share with the rest as we discuss the Next Attempt.
In the meantime, enjoy the sun or rain wherever ALL of YOU may be at...:leader: the summertime is also needed to be enjoyed as a holiday break!!!:beer:
YB.
Hi Everyone,
I am one of the pioneer who join the Pureinvestor when it was $25 investment, but it gone far away from the original scheme. My point is, there's nothing I can prove my payment except for Picpay transaction notifications received from the system.
One more I have to point out and to consider.... there are members who paid in bank but already recoup there initial investment in PIPS, how will the bank knows if they will not dig the records, who are eligible to receive refunds. In the other hand, Picpay is like a bank of PIPS same like paypal, e-gold, etc.... In my personal thought, monies in our account should be return to the owner or depositors. There are withdrawals in my account until the company close down.
Hope it will be considered in our claims.. and more power to the group esp. to YB.
thx
Hi all, It's been a long time. I plan to read all the posts to get up to speed and dust off my pips records. Hopefully there is enough data for a claim.
GTA
stepy
Edit: Only you can decide whether its worth the effort to take on that extra mile with the rest on this next attempt. - YB.
Well I for one had given up hope in recovering any money from PIPS have since moved on to other things, I'm not even sure I have all the paper work. I did not invest more then I could afford to loose, however a lot of people lost their shirt, and it would be nice to get the money back regardless. I want to thank the rolclub in keeping us informed, and if there is any way to get the money back that would be sweet
rk
Edit: Many have decided, including myself, to move on as well. Nonetheless, MANY MORE wishes to hold on esp with regards to the injustice that someone else took off with the monies and being scammed, its a heavy toll to put up with and not many have the energy left to pursue but my hats off to those who find this saga is far from over!!! - YB.
The one big fortunate advantage is when you have transferred using PayPal or the Bank or an institution that is known to outlasts or stayed as long as Lloyds Bank. With them, your proof and records are traceable.
For those who have withdrawn, smallish or ALOT, I am of the opinion that they will not be making any attempts to try recover for themselves, perhaps out of principle and equally, feeling devastated for those under their sign-ins, they will do and help out whichever way they are able to.
I sincerely hope they do their best when the moment arrives whereby the facts and docs are needed to be verified & validated... but that will come, in good time.
YB.
I just find about this refund page.I hope we can find way to get some money back.
alca
Edit: Great to note you found it and lets hope, many join you likewise and roll in for we need as many as you all can count when we start the process. - YB.
YB, when you say that "you are moving" on, does that mean you are not putting in a claim?
Yes indeed but this I made and stood by it back in 2006 and since the very 1st claim attempt which is why, I am NOT involved at ALL in submitting any claim which also presented a favorable oversight and handling much more effective and objectively from this position as Co-Admin and coordinating in a way that EVERYONE committed with wanting to claim a refund is better served and be rid off from troublemakers/trollers and unwanted undesirables from disrupting any process put up or structured to serve ex-Pipsters the way it should be and that's what this next attempt as a second Refund Claim process is all about. - YB.
Yogi,
I am also a 2005 investor in PIPS and have sent you a confirmation PM on what I had invested in PIPS. Let me know if there is anything else I need to do or do correctly.
Edit: Another Tport? No punt intended but there are now more Claimants wanting to share through one username, quite understandable, NAP. I will sort it out so let me check... - YB.
101 listed!!!:ro_emote:
Listed as of today, since the start on May, we have made good optimistic progress and this is also due to several among the listed claimants who went out of their way to inform others about this Next Attempt which they missed out with the first, that was successfully wrapped up and prior to the case in Malaysia being closed, a refund payout was executed by the Court Authorities with the Lawyers helping out with the disbursement to the 23 ROLClub individuals** and their partners/spouses submitted under 18 Claims originally listed for the Refund Claim, which was approved by the Court.
We have easily passed the $1-million total from among these 101 listed ROLCLub whose combine sum are currently added up from the listed ex-Pipsters, are there more we left out with theirs???
So hurry for we still have time to pursue the signing up /response for being listed. Its vacation time now so many will be out of town and probably or temporarily is unreachable. However, many has their smart cellphones, notebooks and iPads taken along as well and what is holidaying without staying close to the front line with browsing the Net for a thousand and one reasons... even while U R on a relax holiday?. :noserious
If you know others who are still having their proof of transfers saved and /or unaware of our next attempt, text message to them with this thread link and urge them to join in and also adhere the simple requirements to get listed. >>>:
http://www.rolclub.com/pips-program-...your-pips.html
When I returned from mine, I will see if by end July we have enough to close the listing and move on from there with Stage 2. So please spread the word & get the message out to everyone you know who deserves it.
You can also copy the link and send it to them>>>: http://www.rolclub.com/pips-program-...your-pips.html
We need a whole lot more ex-Pipsters onto this next attempt!!!
**23 = individual / couple / partners as Claimants (TPC).
YB.
Thank you YB for stepping up and taking charge!
Thanks YB for the mountain of work that you are doing for us,
We all really appreciate the way you are putting all this together.
When the moment arrives at a later stage, there will among you, either one or more being involved to take charge too and further the cause on the "field" but by that time, the consensus will have approved of the candidate(s) who are viewed as responsible and in a highly capable manner, pursue on behalf of all, continue with the approved Lawyers that we can all agree on, to seriously set forth the Claim process.
Quite similar to what was experienced & conducted to execute smoothly and hopefully, gain as high a refund percentage as well. All these developments will be for later when the time is right and appropriately carried out.
YB.
Its hard to believe after all this time , 20K lighter, and a past attempt to generate some type of intrest in a class action years ago among pipsters, that it has come back to life. I was one of the few that actually met Brian in Hawaii at the Big Get Together. He was a good pool player. seemed to work hard to pull it off. was a well organized event . To this day I would say that a particular Government was the the real Villan-N-Thief. PiPs was too complex to be a scam. Well that is my opinion anyway. I would be glad to participate. I might even sign with my PiPs laser pen. Well at least I will get to see if this is a friendly croud. I will look at you guys more than once every four months. Hey yogi I cant believe you are still scratching at this. Thanks though. :ro_emote:
GOLDCOAST
Whatever reasons anyone among you may have, albeit U being a supporter, great friends at the pool table or swinging once with Bryan on the turf or simply by the bar with his favorite whiskey or just plain goofed or bedeviled in feeling scammed from his "complex" scheme, all are welcome to make it this time round with ROLClub's Next Attempt provided U R registered and logged in on the forum to confirm your listing when needed from you.
@goldcoast, am I to view that quip as a friendly sarcasm or simply a compliment with an open mind? Let me assume optimistically the latter....:biggrin:
If I had not seen how successful it went with the first coverage and attempt with the refund payout as a result, I wouldn't bother to pursue further but the bigger picture is the case here for all the others, besides the only successful 23 ex-Pipsters who made it, there is HOPE for the rest of the many more thousands on this next attempt and they deserve having a crack at this for a satisfied closure... including you Goldcoast unless this reply to your quip is just not withstanding to bear even with a smiling grin?:noserious
YB.
Thanks Yb for this opportunity.
hafa
I have just gotten into blogging and will be incorporating the above link into my blogs. This is a great way of passing the word around about the next attempt for ex-pips members.
I was referring to this thread link that Yogi posted http://www.rolclub.com/pips-program-...-my-money.html to be added to my blog.
Edit: Thats a splendid idea there, a helpful initiative too. - YB.
Here is a particular mail received which in my opinion, reflects the many among you about how ALL if not, MOST of YOU were treated for a scathing ride on BM's scamming vision.
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Dear YB,
Thank you for all that you are doing for the people that believed in Pips.
Yes, we meet some wonderful people while involved with the group from Florida. We have since moved from there and are living in VA. We never, never thought there would be a chance on getting our money back, and I am sure many others did not either.
How could t(he)y have fooled so many of us?
I did go back into the site, and did just what you told me to do. I have other friends that were involved in Pips, so I will tell them to get going and we will keep thinking that good things will happen.
You and the time you have put into this is very much appreciated by myself and also J. my husband.
Warmly,
S.
i know that many of you have interesting exchanges with others since BM started his Golden Womb enterprise... or so it seem back then for an opening into a complicated Ponzi scheme.
Please share the interesting ones, while we have time to rest this moment to allow many more, the time to catch up and join you all.
This is also the moment to become interactive with each other and learn from each other on how things have turned out albeit a learning curve or a dream that went terribly bad to severe. Share with your fellow Claimants, it helps the healing too and increases the motivation in being united this time round for the next attempt to recover somehow, YOUR monies.
YB.
I will be adding more ex-Pipsters to the List after this. To those concerned, thanks for your patience waiting since you emailed me and you will be receiving confirmation about your request soon after.
YB.
Thought this was dead and money lost. Am totally into trying to get some back.
Hej Jag är glad och tacksam att det finns eldsjälar som tar sådana här initiativ. Jag är pensionär och kan nästan ingenting angående datormöjligheter. Jag gick med i PIPS för att få ett tillskott till min dåliga pension. Tyvärr så gick det som det gick. Jag är glad för att Brian har klarat av allt besvär med Malaysia domstol. Jag träffade Brian när han var i Sverige och jag fick ett förtroende för honom, kommer han att finnas bakom detta projekt så kommer det att gå bra. Finns det något jag kan hjälpa till med, så lovar jag att försöka. Lycka till
Sorry I send a quick reply in swedish but I hope you have the program so you can translate it. Regards Chica
Hi Chica,
I was interested in what you had said in Swedish in your. So, I cut it out and pasted into the online 'Google Translate' program. The program returned the following translation: [Jag var intresserad av vad du hade sagt på svenska i din. Så jag skar ut och klistras in i online "Google Translate"-programmet. Programmet gav följande översättning:]
"Hi I am happy and grateful that there are enthusiasts who are taking these kinds of initiatives. I am retired and can almost nothing about computer capabilities. I joined PIPS to get a new addition to my poor pension. Unfortunately it went as it went. I'm glad that Brian has managed all the trouble with the Malaysian courts. I met Brian when he was in Sweden and I had confidence in him, he will be behind this project so it will go well. Is there anything I can help with, so I promise to try. Good luck"
I hope this translation capture exactly what you wanted to say. I also hope you don't mind me posting this so that others members in this community can read. [Jag hoppas att denna översättning fånga exakt vad du ville säga. Jag hoppas också att du inte misstycker mig att informera om detta så att andra medlemmar i denna gemenskap kan läsa]
EF
Hi Chica,
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Hej Jag är glad och tacksam att det finns eldsjälar som tar sådana här initiativ. Jag är pensionär och kan nästan ingenting angående datormöjligheter. Jag gick med i PIPS för att få ett tillskott till min dåliga pension. Tyvärr så gick det som det gick. Jag är glad för att Brian har klarat av allt besvär med Malaysia domstol. Jag träffade Brian när han var i Sverige och jag fick ett förtroende för honom, kommer han att finnas bakom detta projekt så kommer det att gå bra. Finns det något jag kan hjälpa till med, så lovar jag att försöka. Lycka till
Translated from Google:
Hi I am happy and grateful that there are enthusiasts who are taking these kinds of initiatives. I am retired and can almost nothing about computer capabilities. I joined PIPS to get a new addition to my poor pension. Unfortunately it went as it went. I'm glad that Brian has managed all the trouble with the Malaysian courts. I met Brian when he was in Sweden and I had confidence in him, he will be behind this project so it will go well. Is there anything I can help with, so I promise to try. Good luck
It was good of 'Efinger' to translate using the Translator tool from Google.:ro_emote:
From the translation, it is obvious at what you are perceiving that can be interpreted to think along the lines at how you still believe about BM and any involvement he is in with our next attempt.
I am afraid, it is not as you thought it to be, I'm very sorry should this truth hurt but it is the fact and can be proven without much effort however, I will not go into that to prove it to you, I will recommend you to spend some good reading time on this forum and gather all the developments and posts that will eventually reveal itself about your wrong perception all these while and years about Bryan Marsden.
BM was arrested in late 2006 and while in custody for the next 3 over years, he was subsequently charged in court by the Malaysian Authorities for Fraud and other related offenses and after serving a short sentence, was released and became a FREE man since early 2010.
Nevertheless, without adequate information or DD made on your part, you will have continued difficulty in knowing the exact truth or nature behind Bryan Marsden we all thought we knew him to be through the Conventions we were at like you did too.... it is a choice you have to make & decide once it is pointed out that you were actually scammed in someway of your monies, regardless of how little it may have been for your situation, ALL if not most ex-Pipsters were scammed by him and the operations he created to make you and most everyone believe he had a humble solution for making you a better person through your purse which actually was all he was actually after and interested in.
YB.
On one plain and simple understanding, abide & adhere what is required with the necessary adequate details to be on the Claimants List and everyone has an equal share & chance to claim one's individual refund to the sum left in the hands or holding of Bryan Marsden somewhere out there albeit in one location or several, spread across various places or countries.
We are now in the third week of May and many have responded. Some are through friends and concern persons who are unselfish to let others know of this next attempt. While others are also on the bandwagon in whichever way they came to know and are making their way among your genuine submission with the details you have transparently disclosed through the email you sent to YogiBrood.
Others, and this is what this post is about, have also been included but are somehow NOT forthcoming with what was expected of them regarding the required details.
They are on a separate "HOLD" listing although they are included among you on the thread but with one distinction, they have up to 31st July to clarify with their details as was requested of them.
This is a fair approach, where no one is discriminated nor marginalized for what or who they are... they have all been given equal opportunity but they got to be transparent too like most of you have without hesitation and that is a welcome development to acknowledge.
Here below, is the short notification mailed out to those concerned. If you had not received it, YOU are doing alright and the deadline in July is not for you.
You can see on the Claimant List, post#3, just WHICH username is involved, which is bolded in red.
After July, only those who are on the list and NOT bolded in red, will be further involved and we move on from there. Another email will be sent out to notify all involved of this crucial stage before it is determined, just who will eventually be involved for the next attempt and in proceeding with Stage 2 of the process. Those that are left out, it is, as a result of their own choice & decision in not fulfilling what is simply required from them and whatever their reasons are, it will be respected in not pursuing any further to have them clarify their stance and/or status. There will be no further time spent on them. If you can do it, why can't they?
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Hi ,
I have out of curiosity and to be fair for all involved with an extra check whenever time permits me, to carry out a routine check on just to be sure as it should, for your submitted RC username is not in our data / details is incomplete for the Data Listing.
I leave the option to you to come clear or clarify this discrepancy asap, but you have till 31 July 2011 to do so. As a result, I will adjust your listing on the thread to this effect.
Regards,
YB.
thank you, YB, for your continual persistence in helping us. I am not good at combing the internet for Bryan but am very prepared to contribute financially whenever that becomes needed. I just really wanted to extend my appreciation, again.
Edit: Thats very kind and humble of you to extend your help like you did before. Great to have you back. :) - YB.
I have just mailed out to respective ex-Pipsters listed on the current Claimant List. They have now the time to respond and adhere as requested with their missing details to be included with the rest of the TPCs.
Any other person(s) mailing me with their request to be included while I'm away on holidays can do so but the dateline applies for them as well meaning, not abiding or wasting the precious time left, will be their own concern & fault.
I won't waste more time spending back & forth with questions and answers by email on their oversight.
Which is why I insist and recommend the advise to be heeded... READ the Forum postings and thoroughly to understand carefully the situation and the status we are presently in. The process has NOT begun yet but when we do, only those who are in the>>> Claimant List thread will be updated in close confidence, others need not know further of the privilege-details, just the general on-goings coming related to the process but NO PRIVILEGE information will be shared on the forum. Only those involved will know and stay updated at every step of the way.
YB.
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To ALL concerned in the "On Hold" List - Group A
This mail notification my have crossed with a handful among you who YB is assisting with your ROLClub login registration at time of this being sent out. once that is sorted out, the dateline still applies.
This is the last mail I will be sending out to all of you who are currently in the "On Hold" list despite you being listed together with the others who are accepted for providing the required details.
It is imperative, you also provide a mobile (cellphone) next to your landline number for there is good reason why this is required from the experience gained with the first successful refund attempt.
I have emailed to you earlier requesting you to come through with the required details that you have left out. Whatever your reasons are for not responding, I'll respect them but without the ample details needed, I'm sorry you will be excluded from the rest that complied without any hesitation or questioning. Should you change your mind, you can still be re-listed but you better hurry.
I will, as in the first attempt that eventually became successful with the refund fought out through the dedicated lawyers, maintain a strict protocol which is only meant and proven to be the only effective method to secure a smooth process. You have little to worry with regards to privacy but if you still question the need or effectiveness of the process, I have no further time or will to see the need in spending more time to delve with your uncertainty or doubts. I leave you to be at your own comfort by moving forward with the rest and we wish you good luck in your own endeavors hereafter.
If you still wish to respond but with questions and without the missing details, consider then that your attempts will be ignored and stay unattended.
This is your final chance and my last attempt to mail you on this. Should you plan to return at a later stage while the attempts are progressing, and there is a window of chance that you can still make up with a resolute compliance, I shall consider it and again, put it forward by then to the Collective Group of TPCs who will decide by consensus to allow and / or approve your belated entry with them. I won't make that decision but remain the key person in arranging & managing the smooth process expected of it.
You will by then, if approved, be expected to make up the difference in the costs that you thought you have avoided while the group had to bear all along to the day you join them and continue forward,
The decision is now left to you. If this is all too sudden to respond under short notice, it is because you brought it upon yourself. If you had heeded my advise & recommendation from the very start, by visiting the forum and staying interactive, like others have done, you would have prepared yourself well in advance for this to avoid it.
If your ROLClub username is NOT listed nor active on the Forum, I suggest you do something sensible and soon about it. Approval by Admin can take up to a month to accept your registration. Don't email me to handle it separately just to push your registration speedily, I WON'T.
Mail again to see if you mailed me the following: Full name, your current Rolclub username (not the PIPS forum from BM!!), current address, previous address if applicable, Contact nrs (both land line and cell Nr), D.o.B. (optional), method of transfer placed to BM/PIPS, and the amount you had transferred (not the amount that you thought should be paid out according to the then PIPS ROI simulation chart).
Use this example.
Email subject title: "Claim & Refund, my Money! (PIPS)"
Please accept my request to be included with other ex-Pipsters on the next attempt to claim the refund.
Full name:
Rolclub username:
Current address:
Previous address (when PIPS acct was created):
Contact landline nrs: +
Contact mobile nrs: +
D.o.B. (optional):
Method of transfer (PicPay,E-Gold,Bank,CC etc...):
Amount ($0000 USD or yr local currency):
(not the amount that you thought should be paid out according to the then PIPS ROI simulation chart).
Do NOT attach any docs or proof of your statements/transactions etc. YogiBrood need NOT wish to receive them as yet if & when required, it is for the Lawyer(s) company.
Previous PIPS Forum username or PIPS PicPay account login DOES NOT apply nor be needed for inclusion. For it is NOT recognized by our attempt efforts.
Hello, this is my first post. I find when reading the other posts that someone else has already expressed how I feel, so I kind of take the easy ware out rather than being a repeat. I do think it is very unfare that Brian can be found guilty, and stay out of jail. I would gladly trade my lose to see this reversed. Thanks for reading this, regards, carookie
Your post or opinion is quite unclear. Are you sympathetic to Bryan being imprisoned like the other forum member had expressed, for the Fraud he was charged with? On the other hand, you wish this to be reversed. Reverse it because BM is out there as a free man after serving time, regardless of it being a short term unfortunately?
Just to stay objective on your post, Bryan Marsden was caught in the act while residing in a country that does not accept nor legally allowed what he did under the practices of the Business Act and subsequently, the Financial Act of Malaysia.
Whatever or however one may feel about how business is done and the Law as understood in that country, time was served for the penalty he was found guilty of, fundamentally on Fraud with monies that was considered illegally obtained / managed (Ponzi system) under the Trade & Business Act.
HI YBJust logged in after a few days away and I see you are still hard at it. Thanks for all the help.
I didn't login straight away, just went straight to the forum and there were 21 pages, so when I did login - the pages changed to only 6. (I repeated all this and the same happened????).
Edit: TQ and for the moment, there are several weeks ahead of us till 31st July after which we move on further and getting down to handling the next stage among and with ALL who are "listed". Those who are not, will not be able to participate what takes place among all listed TPCs-to-be until a real group is eventually determined & formed to seriously move forward and that is when the real handling begins. There is more to it than meets the eye during the initial start-up but it has to be done and carried out correctly and systematically to make sure none of the loopholes/flaws experienced in the first attempt gets repeated again. We can only improve in this way.
Indeed it showed 6 pages. I must have set it at multiple pages in the settings when I created it but on my own choice which each and every member can select for their own convenience. I concise the amount to many posts in one page, is easier too for the smoother scrolling in one overview. - YB.
Here is another recent mail received and I hope anyone with a similar situation sharing it will understand or even share their input. Any opinion / similar situation to share with this person?
Hi "there",Quote:
YB:
TQ for the prompt response and updates on details. Not at all confusing but it is good to know just which amount is at WHERE and under WHOM.
Hey YB.,
I think you are asking very important questions...for clarity. I hope this helps.
WHO: All contributions to my PIPS account went via PicPay and though I edited the name of the account after funds were transferred ("username" to "LLC/company name"), all funds for this account were listed initially as "name removed". My last deposit/wire was for $38k. It came from my "company name" account/Key Bank/December 30, 2004. At this time I do believe my PIPS account was listed as "username" , "address" , "country".
WHERE: EON Bank Berhad, PT 7463, JLN BBN 1/1A, PUTRA POINT 1, BANDAR BARU NILAI, 71800 NILAI, NEGERI SEMBILAN, MALAYSIA... (all via PicPay).
I have a lot of money at stake here...as I'm sure you and many others do. What are your fees (the organization) to recover these funds? Shall I plan a trip over to visit the bank (alone or with you...)?
Thanks,
RC ex-Pipster
I'm not planning to go there, although I was there on three occasions since 2007 but merely for leisure with my wife. In the event of heading direct at the frontdoor of the said Bank, it is not wise to do as one will be effectively handled and rebuked from the very first & last confrontation which is through the reception Desk Clerk. Not a comfortable thought let alone experience it.
It is better to leave the matter with the right people and representation, Lawyers instead, who can address the correct and much more effective approach than a layman who will only get scoffed at and no top person or decision maker is met with.
Without question, a costly & fruitless endeavour for any individual initiative to consider undertaking. Almost 5-over years have elapse, but there is still time left to approach it but from a better, consolidated maneuver for the next attempt though not necessarilly at the offices of the banks alone in Malaysia.
Please post more of your concerns within the forum, this way, we build up a collective and determine group as we progress on this.
If I fail to answer immediately to anyone's mail or request for listing in the coming days etc.... that is due to the fact that I'm in transit with my travel and flights that is about to commence. I may be out of reach with any Internet till this Sunday or coming monday.
Cheers,
YB.