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Hi all, just looking for clarification on the fund to help Bryan. Main question why does anyone think that a fund is neeeded to help them thru this problem? Is there source informaiton indicating that this is required? Has Bryan and Sharon asked for a fund to be started. Just wondering how this came about.
Thanks
I believe that Suzanna , Nelsonlee, or nair would have told us if Bryan and Sharon were broke! I believe what Bryan said, before the sites went down. There will be speculations! Don't listen to them! Also that everything will work out OK !
Mike
Tom (Topwinners) would not have asked for funds if it was not necessary. Craig Gardiner is a personal friend and is an accountant. He is coordinating the effort and he also knows that funds are needed badly.
Please give if you can to help everything to work out OK!
Michael
If a/cs have been frozen and monies are needed , I will gladly LOAN some funds -
at 2% per day interest !
Seriously though , I do feel for the officials of the company . I know of some very unhappy investors who invested large sums of " ill gotten gains " in a sure thing and one nervous "broker" who lying quite low at the minute .
MONEY ... the root of all evil .
Actually: The LOVE of money is the root of all evil !Quote:
Originally Posted by lutwyche
Mike
Actually: The LOVE of money is the root of all evil !
Mike
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Or more accurately " The : need for / pursuit of MONEY ' is the root of all evil .
OUCH
You said what many are thinking . If things were more transparent and accountable , ie we had communications and assurances of progress , thousands of pipsters would be sending in large amounts of money to help in any way possible .
It is a tactic to keep Pips operations secretive , but when the cry for help comes , how can people be expected to comply , after being kept in the dark for so long .
Any comments welcommed .
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Originally Posted by truepipster
I agree True, something is not right here.
AgreedQuote:
Originally Posted by lutwyche
The way I see it, you all have a right to your opinions.
But these kinds of opinions are not going to help get the results you want.
Just my 2 cents worth and also the other side of the coin.
support4PIPS
Hi again, Just my thoughts here, it would seem to me that all current PIPS members should have a fund started to help each and everyone. In other words were is the money. The more I think about this whole issue the more it seems to smell rotten. It certainly seems to me that Bryan, would try harder to communicate with the membership directly then thru second partys. PIPS members are LOYAL to Bryan and express that on a daily basis. Communications should flow in both directions not thru so call reliable sources.
Understand I'm not knocking ANYONE, the longer this issue drags on the more I wonder. What is really happen? First we hear PICPAY is being invesigate then its PICPAY and PIPS there is a disconnect here. How can PIPS be invesigated when it is registered in Panama, major jurdiscation problem here.
Oh well, I will continue to ponder on this issue and Hope and Pray that everyone will be treated fairly. I would like to at least get my funds out of the now defunct PICPAY.
I would do but unfortunately I paid in £20k before the sites went down, don't really want to part with any more hard earnt cash until I know where its really goingQuote:
Originally Posted by michaelr
I believe that PIPs didn't have all the fund in Malasia
what about Panama ?
I don't wan't to be pessimist but I think before to jump to any conclusion we should open our eyes.
Bye
and get real
Crystal
You will get answers when Bryan does. I have said it several times before and I obviously need to say it again....Quote:
Originally Posted by jgreen
The investigation is continuing, until it is over, there is nothing to tell.
The status quo remains the same. It is in the hands of BNM - no one else.
BNM are not obligated to communicate with members at all. We may never hear from them.
When the bank decides, then and only then, are we likely to hear anything official.
Oh and just another point, has it ocurred to anyone that Bryan has been well advised by his lawyers that he should not make any kind of public announcement?
Sheeesh people.
Flip that coin again.
support4PIPS.
"If you are going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill
Agreed, and BN finally posted on their web site, so now it is official, PIPS is under investigation. (g)Quote:
Originally Posted by support4PIPS
Good luck to all, Mike
but Pips is not involved in a trial, which means it would not currently need legal funds. I think members deserve to know why the legal fund is being set up when in fact there is no need to for it at the current time. Also, how are the funds going to get to bryan and who are the people collecting the funds. Just some questions that have gone unanswered that i think should be answered before anyone donates money to a cause that they know nothing about.
Just my opinion
PLEASE NOTE CHANGES MADE TO DONATION PROCEDURE!!
This is the original post made in the old thread by Tom. Just to make finding the details are bit easier....
our goal remains...Quote:
Thekidsbible Ceo/Australian forum Mod. on Rolclub
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 17
Default The Bm/pips Defence Fundraiser!!
Hello everyone.
This is Tom Broadbridge most of you know me as the producer of The Animated Kids Bible.
Marek was approached for approval to post this on the ROLClub forum and because he had questions about it we had a long conversation about it and the bottom line is that ROLClub will now give its full support to this action, so here goes!!
Once again, we are asking for the aid of PIPSTERS.
It is a harsh reality that since the freezing of all PIPS assets and bank accounts, Bryan is running out of funds
very quickly to continue his legal battle with BNM.
A group of members, including those involved in the Petition Drive, are co-ordinating and actioning this fundraiser.
THIS COLLECTION HAS BEEN NAMED... THE BM/PIPS DEFENSE FUNDRAISER.
No donation is too large or too small.
This fundraiser will continue indefinitely, or until we announce otherwise.
I sincerely urge you all to give what you can. I am sure you can all understand how important this situation is.
All that is required of you is to SEND AN EMAIL TO ...
[email protected]
Please specify what method you would like to use to make your donation
You will receive an email with instructions within 24 hours.
This is a very tangible way to support PIPS. Lets get to it!
As always our goal remains ....
Thanks & kind regards,
Tom Broadbridge
CEO
Web: http://www.animatedkidsbible.com/?afid=7548
support4PIPS
Cant they ask the bank to release some of the funds needed to finance this legal costs?
Nope, they can't I'm afraid and I'm surprised you raised that "numb" thought/suggestion....surely, you could think better than that?
Its like asking your bank manager to unfreeze your depleted account that has a gross negative and overdrawn debit statement to release some funds in lieu to pay off in advance, some other subscription(s) still ongoing by promising that you will soon clear the debit amount someday soon... it doesn't work that way unfortunately... thought you might know this, but then, that isn't the case as your question/suggestion appears to indicate.
Nope, PIPS bank account is not in the red and so if necessary should be able to unfreeze some of this massive fund to pay for itself.
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Originally Posted by srair71
I Think I've Given Enough Money Why Should I Pay More??
The head talkgold clown speaks. What are you doing here? Why don't you go back and ban some more people who disagree with your trolls from TG. I got banned and maxx continues. SURPRISE ! To answer your dumb question, you don't need to be on trial to have an attorney to protect your rights.Quote:
Originally Posted by edbri871
edbri871 wrote
ROL members who asked these questions were labeled as trolls and banned. Not sure why you're able to bring up these same issues and receive no consquences.Quote:
but Pips is not involved in a trial, which means it would not currently need legal funds. I think members deserve to know why the legal fund is being set up when in fact there is no need to for it at the current time. Also, how are the funds going to get to bryan and who are the people collecting the funds. Just some questions that have gone unanswered that i think should be answered before anyone donates money to a cause that they know nothing about.
Just my opinion
Just my opinion.
I have never met Bryan but I feel his spirit. God has annointed him to do a specific work for such a time as this. Bryan's vision belongs to God not Bryan. For this reason, I am committed to this vision and will help provide financial support as long as it is needed without questioning Bryan or those who have been designated to receive the funds for his defense. My giving is not for Bryan but it for God's glory as many people will be blessed when this is completed. Whatever way God choose to bring this vision to pass is His business and I will support and not interfer. By faith I'll walk.
Glorious
Ok lets take this to a personal level...Quote:
Originally Posted by edbri871
Sir, we have allegations which have been presented to us that there has been misappropriation of funds in your business. As such I am have the authority to seize and freeze your assets, I have just taken control of your checking account, your savings account, your money market and stock accounts, and all your charge cards. I see that with your visa you have just purchased an 8000$ ring for your wife, I also see you have a 2005 Land Rover and 250,000$ in equity in your home, so I will request you hand over that ring and you may not use your house or car as collateral. I see that you are the owner of this company, and you have several different companies under this umbrella. Well, we need to take all your account books for all of your businesses, since you are computerized, we will need to take all the computers back to our offices as well. We also want to see all your phone bills for the past 12 months, your staff will need to turn over all of their cell phones for our use, we will need both yours and your wife's cell phones as well. We want you to turn over your passposts and visas, and you will make yourself available for us when we need to have questions answered.
NOW TELL ME YOU WOULDN'T WANT A LAWYER ON YOUR SIDE
For members who are sitting on the side wondering if this is smart or not. You all have accounts in PIPS. You have a vested interest. As you can see from above, a similar situation happened with Bryan and Sharon. They have been left with nothing to use as collateral to help them obtain the basic in legal representation.
Is Bryan going to come into this or any other forum and ask for help ? I doubt that, he hasn't asked for any since Pure Investment started in 2002. You can listen to the sludge on Talkgold from those who have their own objectives to see Bryan and PIPS fail, or you can stand firmly behind Bryan with your support.
You need to protect your own vested interest, and the only way this can be done is to ensure that there is proper legal representation for Bryan.
Any word on how long the investigation will take? I can withdrawl funds in two months and hope to do so.Also does it look good for PIPs or are we all out in the cold with our investment?
JOHNSON i would love to help bryan,but I dont have a job,home,or a car any more as I borrowed my pips loan money to lend. but I still believe pips and bryan will fight and win, pips will live