A question or concern like that lies ONLY with the "floating DOUBTER" in any similar situations that simply relies on concerns that does not come into perspective or context in light of the current maliaise we all know all too well...
Taking a backseat view in the meantime is a "common sense" inevitable option to adopt and help read with positive participation in addressing what is next best in keeping oneself constructively occupied.... while the waiting pursues.
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20-09-2005, 09:14 PM #21
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You mean more drinking?! LOL.
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We know that Picpay funds are frozen being based in Malaysia where BN has jurisdiction. Picpay is members funds anyway not Pips funds used to trade.
PIPS is registered in Panama with the main office in Malaysia. Where are PIPS funds for trading located? If not in Malaysia how can BN freeze those funds? Patriot Act might freeze them if in USA.
If anyone is close enough to Bryan to get a "real" and not speculative answer to whether ROL and loan funds are growing or static please enquire for us.
Roger
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21-09-2005, 09:50 AM #24
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Originally Posted by rwaite
The biggest question is : Is our money is really trading/investing elsewhere ?. Any proof ?. I know the only proof is BM's words and nothing else.
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21-09-2005, 11:38 AM #25
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You are all (until the last post) confusing 2 distinct things;
1. ROL on our accounts. As it appears on the screen. This is not necessarily connected to reality, or ability to pay.
- this continues to grow only as long as the scripts are being run. Real money being made makes no difference to this. This could be monopoly money, we dont know, unless we know about (2).
2. ROL as it occurs in reality.
- this depends on trader or whatever they are using to make the money (they were never that clear on it). If that part is operational (and forget about the offices, they are there to support the members and small businesses), then that money is being made, and the money exists to back up (1).
But i CAN see how nobody withdrawing for this period throws in a rather large spanner as the system was built on greed: that people cannot help but put their finger in the cookie jar. The jar has been closed now for quite a while! I think this is the point that was trying to get itself out earlier. Adster ive persuaded myself at this point that you were right; its not likely to be the case that up-to-date ROL in virtual reality is sat in an a mega-account waiting to be paid out, because of the growth (though see below). However, at this point we would all be happy to go back to where we were, so the point is kind of mute.
Last i heard was Bryan identified a trader to BON. If he is making money then its just whether he can make it fast enough to keep up with us not withdrawing (hopefully someone sees what i am trying to say here! )
Personally i dont give a flying tube of glue if its growing or not, right now i will more than settle for the money owed to me in picpay!If an owl doesnt want to see; he doesn't need glasses.
- Dutch proverb (apparently)
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21-09-2005, 11:59 AM #26
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Open to interpretation and speculation
As long as we get the original investment back we shouldn't complain.
I think ROL is not growing right now. Bryan in his last update said the following:
"everyone will get his money"
Now that is open to interpretation and speculation!
What is OUR MONEY?
Original investment?
Picpay money only?
Picpay and accumulated Rol to a certain date?
RoL to a certain date without picpay?
Ongoing rol account like nothing ever happened together with picpay money?
While the last one is what the optimists amoung us hope for, I think that given the situation it may not be that realistic... but the first one in the list is at least fair!
The Wacky One!
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21-09-2005, 12:08 PM #27
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No one will really know if the ROL is growing or not until two things have happened. The first is WHEN the BoN CLEARS PIPS for trading, and the second is when BM has been able get all of his servers back up and running, and we are able to log back in.
It may be possible for the investments that PIPS has to continue the growth for the ROL, but this will all depend on what investments the BoN has frozen, and what investments are still continuing to grow. We can only hope that they have allowed the investments to continue to grow while they have been doing their investigation.
Stuart
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21-09-2005, 12:43 PM #28
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As Pips is down, nowbody work there, and nowbody can take care of our money.
What I mean is: The moneys are not invested in any system that can give back more than 2% every day. It has to be things like Forex or similar.
Our account stand still until Pips open again.
Regards
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21-09-2005, 12:53 PM #29
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Pips will fly by like a Ferrari flat stick!!!!!-----Vvvrrrooomm
Firstly this is my first post here & I think Bryan is a genius to have come up with the concept which has now been cloned all over the internet. I for one have a huge investment into pips & would be happy even if it backdates to when it went off line, however knowing the risks involved & being a serious investor & having met Bryan in person & been able to speak to him I would not be surprised if he has traders & money creation projects still pumping away in the wings creating funds for the programme & if I was him I would use this downtime to create some surplus funds while I withold the daily ROL with the perfect excuse as to why it is not continuing in the downtime.
If it makes Pips stronger then so be it!!
I for one think that all things that have happened in the past Bryan has been prepared for & in all cases has used these events to create more coin & more security, also think about how this whole thing will look when the green light is given, Bryan & pips will be in a position to do some incredible things in the financial world that has never been done before for the common man.
Not to mention that he always seems to have a plan b just around the corner that nobody knows about.
I have faith in Bryan & I reckon "yeah I'm an Oz boy" I reckon Bryan will do amazing things with pips or pips2.
If you want to have enough money for your dreams & I hope that includes helping your friends & family then unless you win lotto you had better hold on to Bryan Marsden as tight as you can & thank him for his personal sacrifice in all of this as he will prevail & when he does all i can say is "HOLD ON" you are on the PIPS coaster climbing the biggest climb you have ever seen in the finacial world & when it reaches the top "WOW" the ride will be amazing my friends & I hope you will all be with me when this baby starts up again.
Pips flew too fast, too quick, but wait & you will here it comming like the wind, make sure you dont miss it as it goes buy like a ferrari flat stick.
Take Care my friends & hold on for the ride of your life.
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