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TRUST me on this... I've seen that film: *Blow Hot, Blow Cold* and this is getting to be heinous too...Admin will step in warning those involved. We are all saints on this forsaken planet until someone starts accusing another as the Devil...http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...oads/gummy.gif
My sentiments exactly Mike, Bryan started this venture to help us so in turn we can help others.Quote:
Originally Posted by weathernut
Yes I am ready to be financially free and in return I can help others. So if that is called greedy I guess I'm guilty.
No apologies!
Style I call a truce maybe I didn't understand your view. Anyways not wanting to have any hard feelings just clarity.
No hard feelings here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Will Work For Food
Trust requires work.
For example, I joined Nair's program of helping needy PIPSters today.
If Nair didn't work for many years to become what he is today and , further, if he didn't work to produce the texts that give us an idea of who he is, and if I didn't take the trouble to read most of them - in a foreign language that took many years to learn - my e-gold wouldn't agree to part with me, would it?
On the other hand, when trust is created, a lot of good work can be done.http://rolclub.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
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Well, I believe some of us joined the Program for Greed, some of us for helping people, some of us a 50/50 between the prev. mentioned, some of us for for financial independence ontop of a nomal job, some of us so they didn't had to work. Dont blame or critisize anyone for why they joined the program, it is up to them. It is a fact that all of the mentioned + + is why we joined pips. I dont believe that someone joined ONLY for helping people in need, that is just far beyond reality, since this was/is a HIGH RISK program. If all I wanted to do was helping people in need I wouldent put my money in a high risk program such as this, but given them to Red Cross or an other safe Organisation instead. But I hope the program will arise from the dead so we all can make some of our dreams come true, and also help someone in need and make their life better.
I have believe in Bryan and Sharon. Maybe Im stupid, but I dont blame him for the situation we're in. He is not a cheater. Someone said "One time a cheater, always a cheater". The fact is that Bryan has not cheated anyone, yet. The program has been running since GW, and instead of closing down GW all members got all their funds from GW to a new PIPS account. This was the first members in the program, and I also believe that they have had the chance to get some withdrawals too.
Let us not judge anyone before we know 100% what is going to happend. Believe in the facts that is told, and put speculations away.
RR
I trust God because He is always with us to guide us and I only have to pause for a few minutes a day to thank Him. If God can get you to,God can get you thru.
In this case ,your God will expect you to be humble and forgiving , and accept that sometimes things don't always work out in your favour .
Hopefully , your faith can assist you in these trying times .
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Originally Posted by lutwyche
If only people will be humble instead of lording over from others and forgive rather than putting on revenge to people who hurt them...this world will be a better and safer place to live on.Three years ago,I lost an arm and a leg but God has lead me to know PIPS.Now..the devil has lorded over the souls of the saboteurs but soon when this investigation is over,we will see a better and much stronger PIPS....because of what has happened truth will lord over lies.And surely,our faith can assist us to be stronger in these trying times.GOD said," if everything is perfect,will you still know ME?" GOD sprinkles tiny but wonderful seeds of blessings on earth and I just caught two ...so nice and true! It's PIPS and supp('',)rters of PIPS.
Nair's Pipster Support Program pays as promised.
I have received 2 monthly payments on time.
The Pipster Support Forum community is preserving the unique spirit of PIPS.
Come and visit us.
http://www.freeforum101.com/forum/in...mforum=pipster
Gnome excuse me if this is insulting but I don't really understand why you are receiving payments? The last time I noticed you had exchanged over 150, 000 dollars for picpay?
If I am wrong I will delete this message immediately
Sailingdom
Hi Sailingdom,
You see, the title of the thread is "Who Can You Trust..."
I wrote earlier that trust requires work and that I had invested quite a bit of time into understanding who Nair is.
When I understood enough to trust him I invested into his Pipster Support Program, whose purpose is to help out needy Pipsters while we all wait for the comebaclk of PIPS, on the one hand, and on the other - to provide a good return to the investors of his Program.
Well, Nair manages to do both and much more.
Just wanted fellow-Pipsters to know this.
Regards,
gnome
Thanks Gnome,Quote:
Originally Posted by gnome
for revealing this IMHO very important info...
So you´re saying that Nair's Pipster Support PGM is one that helps Pipsters who has a hard time to get ends met?
So, as to understand this...
YOU invested some money in NAIR's PGM...and you got some return?
AND...do you know if some people actually got helped?
AND...HOW will the Pipster Support pgm work WITHIN BM's LOTTO PGM?
sounds like an interesting combination....
Just Curious...:smiley: :smiley:
:cool: :smiley: Largo:smiley: :cool:
It would be wonderful to hear from, or at least about, pipsters who were struggling and have benefited from Lairs program.... wouldn't it? :nocommentQuote:
Originally Posted by Largo
I, for one, love a warm fuzzy story...
Yes, Largo, that's what's Nair's Program is about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Largo
Yes, I am one of the investors and I am getting a good return.
Nair also made a donating option available. Great idea! He said, "There are tens of thousands of Pipsters. Many of them have sleeping dollars in their accounts. If evrybody gives $1, many Pipsters can be helped out".
Yes, I do. But the sums we have collected are as yet modest. When Pipsaid comes back that should change.
When true Pipsters gather into a team, and that's what's happening, Largo, anything becomes possible.
gnome
Gnome wrote:
"When true Pipsters gather into a team, and that's what's happening, Largo, anything becomes possible."
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Gnome,
How can we make this TEAM-EFFORT happen?
I mean...Can we join the LOTTO as a GROUP...or What?
Any Ideas?
:cool: :smiley: Largo:smiley: :cool:
Right, I'm with you now Gnome. Now I understand.. apologies for the post but it did bring up some important information which I do appreciate..
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Read what folks are saying ( E-Gold too )
Click on this link... and click on Discuss story at bottom of page.
http://www.heraldbanner.com/homepage...51025127.html?
keyword=leadpicturestory
If you're interested in helping struggling Pipsters, than why would you even want a return on your money?
I don't quite understand the thinking.
By teaming up, Largo, that's how.:smile:Quote:
Originally Posted by Largo
The folks who have already PMed me - you, Hasse, Goldeneye, Goldierox,Champ,Spudkicker, MBrodel, Destiny, Roggerdude, Dean0007, Anninmaine, Dalma, Deribas, Elisabeth, Lost0_0, Moni -
share the spirit of PIPS - and Christmas:smile:
trust Bryan and Nair,
want to help themselves and others -
yes, we ARE a group, Largo, we will invite Pipsters to join us and we are going to make some money together - while we all wait for PIPS to come back.
gnome
When it comes to money i dont even trust myself;)
The hardest thing to learn in life is which bridge to cross and which -- To burn ..
Only the Best to All,
Sal
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Originally Posted by forely
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Originally Posted by gnome
Although imho trusting is also hard labour for the soul... as you have quite a lot to loose, not only $$ or whatever matter for which you rely on the other one ... also faith & your view on the human being & world...
From the other hand, faith opens so many doors and gives so much added value to friendships, increases efficiency in business relations,...
I would consider myself partially brain dead if I wouldn't be able to trust anyone no more...
(and the pain of broken trust is a price I am willing to pay for that...)
Hasse,Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasse
This is IMHO a truth that is worthy to belong in PIPSOLOGY....
Quite SPOT ON to mend things of value in a MORE SURVIVAL direction...
Thanks Mate,
:cool: :smiley: Largo:smiley: :cool:
Hasse wrote:Agree, good post.Quote:
From the other hand, faith opens so many doors and gives so much added value to friendships, increases efficiency in business relations,...
I would consider myself partially brain dead if I wouldn't be able to trust anyone no more...(and the pain of broken trust is a price I am willing to pay for that...)
champ
We are all born with instinctive powers. Unfortunately we are taught to ignore our instincts. That is a big mistake. Instincts are a God given ability to help us survive.
Did you know – and this is a proven fact that most successful people have learned to develop the ability to tap into their instinctive powers?
How many times when a situation has turned out badly have you said or thought that you had a gut feeling from the start that something wasn’t right? Your instincts were trying to warn you, but you weren’t paying attention to them!
From the instant you were created you were operating on instinctive powers.
Learn to once again trust your instincts and you won’t go far wrong IMHO.
I agree Chester if we learn to listen to our intuition we are usually on the right path. Another thing I have observed is listening to children's perspective and going with your pets intuition. By listening to my children when they had an opinion about a situation or a person, they were usually right on. They are more in tune with their 6th sence if you will. Pets are another guiding force for me to pay attention to. I've had pets that told me right off the bat to not trust someone and they were always right. So if I doubt myself I grab a kid or a pet and pay attention. :smile:
amen. What date do your pets project for a return of pips? Mine haven't said a word yet, but I'm listening.
blessings
LOL I wish they could talk that's for sure. I have a feeling they aren't interested in my Pips concerns...darn!
Consider this investment option a win-win opportunity: as there are (always) people who prefer to invest a larger sum (and recover it with return after deduction of a relevant % as a donation) rather than donating 1$ or a small sum (without return). In other words, this is not about 'wanting' a return... but about the existence of a limit beyond which one isn't prepared anymore to give... but still prepared to loan.Quote:
Originally Posted by drgibble
From that perspective, the investment option brings more money in, even with providing return. Of course in a perfect world this could be done too without return... but (given a response of < 0,01% and the fact that afaik besides investing (t)he(y) donated too) I think those investors do already much more than the above average pipster does... So imho this thinking is perfectly understandable :wink:.
(btw... the investor was a donator too... )
Instinct... intuition... yes... of course... yet another talent you develop by (learning to) trust people :-).
I've learned the hard way to not trust those who are not trusting individuals...
It seems those who trust, trust because they can be trusted and vice versa...
just some things I've learned along the way of life
/shred
Who can I trust...............HMMMM...............Me........ ..My mother.....(if she were still alive)..............My wife................My son..........(for now he is 7)................My brother.....................and God..........(but God isnt really interested in my money)