Add one Picpay debit card as a momento.
I believe there is a million dollars on it but cant remember the Pin No.
Reasonable offers please.
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Add one Picpay debit card as a momento.
I believe there is a million dollars on it but cant remember the Pin No.
Reasonable offers please.
Hi members,
You know I hardly like to touch about funding and I am not about too. Admin and Yogi run the show and I the just the ground crew. Anyway some of you members have asked to contribute cash towards the fund thru mail. Some want to mail to me directly with the funds. While we/I welcome any contribution, mailing cash is not a good idea, especially to me. First of all, incoming mail to my country may/will be opened. So the money might not reach me! Second as per my stand last time, when the members ask me for my e-gold, I declined.
It's not transparent and should anything unforseen happen, like being accused of misusing members money or somebody claiming to send money thru post but we haven't recieve it. I think it's best we stick to the present system. However, I understand your unwillingness to go thru the sticky icky banking detail and appreciate your gesture to donate. :biggrin:
Rolclub is asking for just USD2. It is not much for those who can afford it. We have a lot of generous donors donating more than their share. I really like to thank you all, as you are making news possible for those who can't. Then there are others outthere making noise as if we are asking for thousands but then sponge off every bit of information to pass it off as theirs! To these persons, "Shame on you!"
I am willing to traverse Malaysia to get your news for you as long as you deem that you want the news. I try my best to use the funds for the maximum value, which means hawker food not hotel fare, bus if possible rather than Taxi (over long distances), clean and good accomodations will do, not suites or penthouses! (Now Yogi is incharge of that.)
Anyway, I've said enough. Thanks.
Cheers.
theBat$
Bat$,
You have done a wonderful job in giving
coverage of the trial, and I believe the members
greatly appreciate it.
I believe we are just doing what we can to
see if anything good can come out from
the trial, or just want to see "The End"
clearly spelled out.
I guess you have to continue to cover the trial
and bring us all the bad and if any, good news.
Really hope this saga will end soon,
so that we can just take it as a history
lesson and go on with life.
Since you believe that GW/PI was legitimate, care to explain what happened to all those Arabic Gum Trees that were supposed to be planted to stop the desert from eroding? Or how about this from the Toronto meeting when BM was asked, and I quote: "The 300 billion dollar question. Some guy posted on the forum that they could earn 300 billion in 4 years by leaving 10K in PIPS.
Answer: Bryan answer was basically that we should keep in mind that this would be the value of his PIPS account, not actual funds that he can withdraw. It would take quite a while to do that. And yes, he would be able to handle it. He said only 5% of members would do something like this anyways."
Now let's just assume a membership of 80,000. 5% of that would be 4,000 members. Let's then multiply the 4,000 members by $300 Billion. Still want to explain to me how this was legitimate?
Leave it be Lynn, that,s a good chappie :)
You would have to be around to experience early events, and since you were
not, worrying the same bone only blunts the teeth. I would think everyone else
has already had a bellyfull and just as ready to doze off :)
Nighty night or bonne nuit
paddy
That was always the given explanation for any of the huge sum claims. And quite rightly, too. If I had a billion quid sitting in an account in funny money I wouldn't leave it all there - I'd get it out into a real bank account. Therefore BM was always protected against that question.
Well, if BM and Sharon are found not guilty, and if what many have said about the money being there and earning interest; then you are going to have a lot of people whose gross net worth individually will be greater than 160 Nation's GDP. Because by the time these trials are over, it will have been close to 4 years when he has to start paying out all those billions.
Do Not Worry Bat, I Already Have You A Biggggg Bat Cave In Texas When Ever You Are Ready For It. Barkvic
I hope they are found not guilty and if that is the case I would not expect 86 billion or anything like it........ I think there was $14,500 in my account when the computers were taken by the bank so I dont expect Bryan has had much of a chance to do much about anything in the last eighteen months
I understand what you are saying, but many here on this forum have stated the money is earning interest, and it all will be paid out when they are found not guilty. Since by the time all these trials are over it will have been more than 3 years since the computers were taken, and it will be close to 4 years since payments stopped; if you believe the supporters there will be "Billions" to disperse. Even BM said his super secret formula would continue on without him. Just because they confiscated the computers doesn't mean the "trading" stopped. At least according to the "believer's."
The fantasising here is getting more and more ridiculous!!
I just wanted to wish everyone of you and your families a very Merry Christmas. May you be surrounded with friends and family. May you have joy, happiness, love and cherished memories to share. May you be in good health, and have a greater understanding of the true meaning of Christmas.
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Happy joyous 2008 friends!
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Hi all ROLClub members,
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"Merry Christmas" and a "Wonderful, Rewarding,
Profitable and Amazing 2008"!!
Happy New Year!
Not that I believe this is fundamental at this time but for the sake of argument, when this began wouldn't the court have froze the bank funds therefore stopping any interest paid on any money there? Just curious...
BATTY, it is wonderful that you take your time and effort to bring us the information you do. I appreciate all your efforts. Please take care!
It has indeed crossed many, thousands of minds speculating this outcome....
Well, whichever country one is in... 99,999% of monies impounded by any Authorities would not be involve in doing a side track on keeping tabs with the Invested money (if at all one can also argue on this separate issue) however and nonetheless, it would be the State curator who will be commissioned to see that all accounted sum are documented as best as possible and all dealings or interests are automatically blocked & terminated and comes to a grinding halt!
Little speculation about interests continuing to gather profits is needed from thereon.:biggrin:
Actually I was hoping to see him have to pay out $80 Million per day per member for the first 27 days, then $92 Million for the next 27 days, then $115 Million in the next 27 days, etc., etc. The ever increasing amounts were not sustainable, let alone the $80 Million per day initially.
:noserious:noserious:noseriousI'll take $8 for 27 days $9.2 for the next 27, $11.5 for the next 27 Etc :noserious:noserious:noserious
Depends on what you want to believe.
The propipsters are saying that the money is still earning interest in secret accounts in Panama.:rolleyes:
On the fence pipsters don't know.:waiting:
Anti pipsters all agree that BNM have frozen all the money (rumoured to be less than 20Million usd) so nothing is being earnt. :mad:
Take your pick! :toofunny:
I imagine there are several of us who would take what was owed us when the computers were removed by the bank :) I could actually get that Harley I have added to my "BUCKET" list.
http://www.mts.net/~hooch/images/flying_pig.jpg
Maybe this will bring home the bacon? Dreamer..... so to speak:blush:
Situation Update : Malaysian General Elections
There will be general elections around the corner and it will be (non official) in March. If it happens on the trial date, near or after.
1. Trial will be postponed (trial date)
2. Travel will be difficult
3. Travel not advised, maybe there will sore losers
Just keeping the forum informed.
theBat$
Thanks Batty!
Yes, frozen accounts do not EARN interest, but banks DO earn interest on any and all funds in their customer accounts via investment interests and activities. However, courts control funds in banks within their jurisdiction, and as it has been for many countries where banks have frozen accounts connected to other countries' investigations/trials, as soon as it is established in the trial that the said country where the trial is being held has NO jurisdiction over the other counrtries' banks, those frozen funds can be accessed legally. But you may have to get a lawyer to "unlock" your funds, depending upon the attitude of the bank in which your accounts are in. In regards to seized business computers and frozen business activities, those member accounts under the business' operation process are also frozen at that point. The company is usually forbidden to continue business activities with the said company until it has been cleared. Member accounts in the company would have stopped at moment of seizure as the company cannot continue to do business. The accounts value and or, true investment value, at seizure is what the investigating bank or officials will make their decisions on along with activities of members and company owners, staff and its officers.
Hei, please hase 3 years that I ask for lent money the bank to invest in pips, until the day of today the unico that Pips, Madsen and Co have given me are headaches and the divorce of my marriage by lost of that and the other money that imberti in pips and ect. You have some information to where I to be able to direct me to recover the money that deposits to the bank of Pips, do not want rents nor gains, single my money thank you very much to pay it of return to the bank my tlf 00 47 91155302, Norway
Sorry to note abt your marriage breakdown however, you do need to come to grips with the sordid fact on your "MONEY" that is currently held up... if not for a better word, LOST
in limbo to the likes of Marsden and Company and all there is that ties to his belongings, now in possession and subject to further decisions needed once the trial and/or sentence is laid down.
Your bank acct detail is of no relevance or serves no access either for this Forum or for any other institution to help you recover or refund your loss...
I do hope you have found something more worthy to lean on and also, a new partner for you will need it to overcome the tragedy.... :bow:
Hi members,
I've been missing this few months but I've not forgotten about you all. I got some health problems as you all know. Stones came back with a vengence but the doctors have cleared me. In fact, I passed some out this morning. Yeah... I'm a regular quarry. They're small ones, I guess the x-ray didn't catch them. Anyway, I can't believe that after 3 years, this guy is still trapped in Malaysian Judicial System, I also am suprised with another live ruined story. Chilento, you're not going to see your money back, I can safely say its gone. There never was a 2% ROI. I sympathise with you. My heart goes out to you.
He fooled us all. The smart, the stupid, the desprate, the greedy, the strategist, the follower, the leader, the sick, the old, the young, royalty and whatever. You name it chances are he's fooled them. What can we do? We have sat a %^&*() of a long time. At one time we were left in the dark because there was no news. But admin & Yogi came along and brought updates. Of course BM prefers that there were no news, make bail and perhaps slip away into the darkness. Heck, he scammed us three times, first with PIPS, Lotto and Cycler. This while on BAIL. Scammed us for every last cent.
My last USD20 which is around $80 for me (ex-rate at the time) which I could have used as I needed money was sent to his stupid cycler to a certain Barry James. Who was later exposed as the now jailbird BM. So why, why should we not think that he is such a jerk of a guy? Betrayed, cheated and left in the lurch. That's life, right? Some of us have no where to turn to. I hope when come judgement time, you (BM) that you pay for all the misery and family breakups, ended friendships and deaths you've caused.
I wish ............... words frequently used by remorseful PIPS participant.
Anyway, trial's next month. I hope there will be no postponement again. I can't take the disappointment. BTW more bus crashes and more dead. This time, a friend of a friends daughter was killed. The bus driver was allegedly speeding and SMS-ing at the same time! She was 21, a brilliant girl with a bright future. Extinguished. I'm more afraid of buses than ever. If all goes well, you will have more news. That is unless there is a general election, demonstration or I get sick. My bosses will give me further instruction, then there's the 2nd trial in KL, that's in May. My family have to make some sacrifices when I am away, so the trials better be on this time.
I am sick and tired of being on the losing end. It has been a struggle for my family all my life. I just want to be debt free and have a little spending money. PIPS have gotten us in debts. I have nothing left, I cashed out my life insurance, closed my business and gotten additional debts on top of my debt because of waiting, waiting, waiting. Calling them (PIPS) asking for my check which is always posponed.So I eke out a living by teaching computers and writing for papers or magazine also a bit of travel guide work. It's not where I want to be and I'll be forty in a few years, not married, unwell and poor.
What to do? Live day by day and hope that something comes my way. It is a glum 2008 for those who still believe that things will turn around for PIPS. People telling me, I told you so and don't invest more than you can afford to or why was I so stupid, you're not helping. So I want to end my rants. I get this way when I think of all the things I had to go through.
Happy Chinese New Year to those who celebrate it. Don't look back.
theBat$
I'm sorry the Gall-stones relapse... I will be calling you soon... too late now at this hour.
Batty is living a very pitiful life for his part and many more out there are experiencing as well with his in solemn silence and grief... unable to cry out theirs unfortunately but for those who knows and realize they should not be forgotten, share with us on their outcome so others who still thinks that BM was a saint in his deeds... realized they were wrong and mistaken all along...
Yes, some did benefit from payouts... they were lucky and they made it... but not the rest like Batty and yours truly too.....:bow:
May this new Year from the Chinese Calendar bring some closure and peace to your loss...
Happy Chinese New Year to all aka... Gong Xie Fat Chai...