Time to take time out .

I'm sorry , I've tried to be positive and optimistic , but enough is enough .
Between ROL Club and Auspips , all I ever hear is 2nd and 3rd hand stuff and threads about being patient that and all is good .
I am a believer , but I refuse to believe that Pips/ Brian can't either contact us or get someone , like this forum , to give us a short update .
Is it incompetency or best business practice for a company with a 1/4 of a million depositors , to not communicate with us .
I want to believe that behind this lull and silence , people are fighting tooth and nail for the future of our company .Bank audits notwithstanding , I want to know who is fighting for us and what is the fate of our money .
I'm lying low til December , but after that , I'm giving up and getting a life .

Maybe you an wait till January for the information?

P is and probably will always be the word!

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Not in this case. In this case require more patience is arrogance.
We are misleaded with this word for a very, very long time.
We all know it doesn't work here. We are waiting for so long and what? No result. We have been asked to be patient for months and result is raid and investigation by BN.

Hi,

I know that all this uncertainty is very depressing and there is very little that we can do except wait. For how long? - nobody knows.

I've been playing with an idea using event betting and arbitage, and it seems to work quite well. In 22 days I have increased a bank of $10 to over $300 and it is gaining momentum daily.

This is not a HYIP or a game and I am not a member of any club, etc., just working on my own. If you would like to see how it is done, just pm me and I'll send you my e-book which explains all.

If it works for you, and you would like to make a donation, send whatever you wish to the RolClub admin.

Regards

Peter

I kind of wondering if we all will still be checking into the PIPS forums 5 years from now wondering if there is any news. When do you call it quits and move on?

I'm starting to wonder if most of this internet "out-of-the-box" stuff will ever work. There are still tons of people that think mortgage and debt elimination works and have been hanging on to the idea for years. Most all high-yield investments don't work, yet people keep joining them. It seems that every program that I have joined goes under. Case in point: CEC, GINS, PIPS and several smaller ones. I'm sure it is just a matter of time before something happens with Plexpay.

I have only used disposable income, so the money isn't really a big deal. It's the dreams that get shattered with these things. I also get a little mad at myself for falling for the hype.

Why do we do this? To be truthful, the lottery probably would have been a better investment.

Peter,

How easy is it to follow? Presume it be done in any country?

I am interested. Send info to: [email protected]
Thanks!
Jerry

venturepro,

P**s was always a pipe dream. I stuck in a fair bit, which fair enough could afford to lose but obviously wouldn't want to. I saw all the figures on the ROL accounts but it was always a dream to have made that much money. Human nature takes over and your eyes are filled with $ notes. Nothing wrong with that of course, we all have to have a dream or there'd be no point to anything.

Maybe that's why I'm not as disappointed at what has happened and should be more disappointed, because deep down it was a dream to me.

I'm not saying that it's over, I still have faith in BM setting up maybe a new Company if necessary to pay out to the members some time next year.

Guess until then, it'll still be a dream.

Give it a rest, already...Those that keep crying the loudest were the start of and have been the crux of a lot of the problems P!ps encountered. If there were shading things going on, it will be found out and rectified; one way or another. In the meantime, there is absolutely NOTHING any of us "investors" can do. I read the disclaimer and fine print before sending in my money; didn't you (you being those that are always b!tching and whining that you've been taken)? I distinctly remember it saying that nothing was guaranteed and not to risk monies that you could not spare...

I want things to work out that's why I'm sitting back and waiting. If it works out, super! If it doesn't I'll learn from it and move on. A person who is out to defraud thousands of people would not have been as "high-profiled" as BM has been; period. You don't hold conventions; you don't personally meet so many people; you don't spend the monies you're "swindling" on everyone knowing you personally. For this reasoning alone, I believe things will work out. Another reason, is that the penaltly for Fraud in Malaysia is DEATH. Any con artist with half a brain, let alone BM with his enormous business sense, would risk committing fraud in a place with the death penalty; it is lunacy to believe that he'd take such a chance.

Sit back, shut up, and relax...It's still be best advice.

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I'm starting to wonder if most of this internet "out-of-the-box" stuff will ever work.

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I feel for you and all of us in the same place. I do hope that 'everything will work out okay'.

Interesting,

I feel your frustrations, and I assure you, you are not alone, but the reality is what it is. We have all been conditioned to be patient, have we not? Well, that is all we can do other than diversify, which most are already doing, if not before PIPS pooped out.

Here is the best advice I could offer, look at PIPS as a lottery ticket, or should we say PIPSAID ticket. OK, the only differency here is this is an annual lottery, so maybe in the next year you will be a winner, but in the mean time, forget about it. (g)

Gambling is fun if you always win, and this is how life is, if we lose on this deal, then move to the next. If you quit looking, then PIPS has beaten you into being poor for the rest of your life. If PIPS comes back, then great, you hit the lottery.

Good luck to all, Mike
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If there was any fraus commited it was by some of the members against PicPay (which is like against other members). THe fraud was from bogus CC and bogus Merchants, Bryan was overwelmed trying to stop the fraud, if you remembered moving from one CC provider to many others to get better checks done to stop chargebacks etc. THen there was the open exchange of Picpay ( which he kept asking members not to do). THen when he had to finally close this down then there were the Bogus Merchants (boasting how smart they were because they were getting the money out of Picpay). WIth all these going on and the bogus Picpay in the system how could we even expect that Bryan could concentrate on being able to pay all the Withdrawals-- which themseleves became a problem (payment platforms trying to take advantage of PiPS and members (platforms that moving money to them would definately end up with the money being frozen)(banks that let everything get setup-even to IT completing new interface programs, and then after the money was deposited, refusing to send out the wires))).

These are really not the normal type of problems that companies usually face. I used to hear members beign all hyped up stating that Bryan was " thinking outside the box"or " PIPS is outside the box" well as we can see the problems are also outside the box and now we have BoM (BM) who is thinking insidt the box making a ruling on PIPS -- which we have all defined as "outside the box".Now you really cannot expect to get any real update until either these people begin thinking outside the box in order that they might understand PIPS-- or Bryan is able to set up a payment processor that will operate inside the box and they will all understand and shake their heads in unson and sy " that's is we will go with that". This can also bring an end to the investigation.

I would not even begin to be able to say which of the above will be the deciding factor - but let's all hope that it happens as soon as possible -- until then we should leave the Bank and investigators alone to scratch their heads and try to figure out what is going on with PIPS so that they can do their investigation of PicPay.

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Give it a rest, already...Those that keep crying the loudest were the start of and have been the crux of a lot of the problems P!ps encountered. If there were shading things going on, it will be found out and rectified; one way or another. In the meantime, there is absolutely NOTHING any of us "investors" can do. I read the disclaimer and fine print before sending in my money; didn't you (you being those that are always b!tching and whining that you've been taken)? I distinctly remember it saying that nothing was guaranteed and not to risk monies that you could not spare...

I want things to work out that's why I'm sitting back and waiting. If it works out, super! If it doesn't I'll learn from it and move on. A person who is out to defraud thousands of people would not have been as "high-profiled" as BM has been; period. You don't hold conventions; you don't personally meet so many people; you don't spend the monies you're "swindling" on everyone knowing you personally. For this reasoning alone, I believe things will work out. Another reason, is that the penaltly for Fraud in Malaysia is DEATH. Any con artist with half a brain, let alone BM with his enormous business sense, would risk committing fraud in a place with the death penalty; it is lunacy to believe that he'd take such a chance.

Sit back, shut up, and relax...It's still be best advice.

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