From the old box: Bryan's Convention Guarantee (2003)

[Filistyn]

On Sep 7th, 2003, Forum Admin wrote:

I WILL show you MY FAITH.

For any MM1 that makes the commitment and is NOT making enough commission to afford the trip to the convention by February, I WILL PERSONALLY refund them DOUBLE what they have paid and they can STILL come to the Convention.

SOOOOOOO C'mon, SHOW SOME FAITH, make a booking

Bryan

7 months later:

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004
Post subject: Bryan's Convention Guarantee?

What happen to bryan's convention guarantee If one went to the convention? I notice that bryan deleted this thread a few days ago. Not one person posted anything negative just have concerns of what is going on with no responses from admin. from either ticket system or private message. I've tried the ticket system couple of times only to have it closed on me and also through private messages I know a few others had the same thing happen to them as that is what they posted on the convetion guarantee thread before it got deleted. One guy had ticket #16 one of the very first ones and still has not had his problem resolved. What is going on?

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004

Hello Celaya

I too am wondering what is happening as I was told by Bryan that my refund should be in my account by the time I got home. I know they are very busy but we are home 5 weeks now!

I have an open ticket No 2004 now exactly two weeks old with no response whatever to it by email or the money appearing in my AF in account.

I managed to get my bank overdraft increased for another month but if it is not through within two weeks I am in trouble.

Sorry to sound so negative about this but really I am positive that Bryan will honour his promise to us - I just need an answer to my ticket and the money asap. Has someone forgotten about us!

Kind regards
Austiboy

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004

Bumping this in the hope Bryan may eventually see it.

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004

I also have not received anything, and qualified for The Convention Guarentee.

Member of MM1, Level 3
Paid deposit, and then didn't earn enough commission to pay for the Convention
Attended The Convention in Malaysia

Ros Confused

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004

Hello Everyone waiting patiently for Bryan's famous "Guarantee" to be honoured

I started posting this same topic in the old forum, expressing a few questions only about when/how/where the guarantee would be honoured. Perhaps a few members will remember how I was treated. It is somewhat vindicative to notice that many of the chiding members are now still waiting, as I am, for that elusive guarantee to be 'honoured'.

Being right is not fun, it can be #$%^* annoying.

dennis a.

p.s. I will be offering my PIPS for sale within the next day or so - I have no choice as I am facing credit card cancellation due to airfares to Malaysia - I can always rejoin PIPS later. Please PM me if you would like one - advance sale! Minimum 10% less than real value.

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004

Hi All,

I too am waiting and I did receive a message from Anusha:

"I will get back to you on the guarantee, those who are eligible have already been paid but i will be doing the recalculation for your account. Just give me a few days more. Thank you

Anusha"

Would someone please refresh my memory---was EVERYONE in MM1 automatically charged for the convention, whether they booked or not?
I did not book on forward commissions, yet when I tried to cancel knowing that my deposit for 2 would be lost, I was unable to do so.
I did end up at the convention, thinking that I would be eligible for the guarantee, but I guess I was wrong... I actually would be happy to even get back half of the hotel booking now.

Gail/ gamani

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004

Hi Gail!

No one should have been charged for the convention unless they had booked. If any MM1-ers were charged without having booked then this is news to me.

I would be interested to know what date Anusha told you that all eligible persons had already been paid. There is no way she could look at my accounts - all of them - and say that I could afford to come to the convention. There was hardly any earnings at all.

Denarm - I am really sorry you are being forced into selling your PIPS at this stage. If I don't get something within two weeks I may have to do the same.

Looking forward to getting this resolved within days not weeks!

Austin Reid(Austiboy)

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004

to everyone awaiting patiently for the convention guarantee:

I have now received via e-mail, from none other than the GM of PI himself, information that the calculation of the convention guarantee INCLUDES the "top-up payments" made by PI that were used to pay the clone monthly fees. As you might recall, the "top-ups" were done to in an attempt to ensure the continuity of the clone matrix program. As the top-up payments were made as "commissions" and then had to be put into available funds so that the clone payment could be made, before the days of the automatic payments, PI staff is now considering these amounts to be COMMISSION and are thusly used in the determination of the guarantee.

Basically this translates into the reality that NO-ONE with get the convention guarantee unless that member had paid his own clone payments and had returned the top-up payments to PI prior to the convention.

Also contained in the e-mail is the explanation, for a few other members posting here, that the guarantee is by individual, not by MMI account - ie if you happened to be managing MMI accounts for friends/family (that had no computer or were computer illiterate) and any of those accounts made any commission or received top-up payments, you will not get the convention guarantee.

The e-mail from Mr. Nichol clearly stated that this was the final word on the subject. I would offer the members concerned a copy of said memo ( on request via PM), but I will have to insist that no-one publishes the contents of the memo as it contains confidential information of one of the accounts that I manage(d).

regards to all who are planning on Hawaii

dennis a.

p.s. to the forum police: these are the facts. this is not negative. there are many awaiting patiently who need to know the status.

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004

Amazing how NONE of this was STATED in the Convention Guarantee when it was first given.

I have seen the guarantee change a few times now, not in our favor. If ALL these rules were stated RIGHT in the beginning.. trust me.. I wouldnt have booked for the convention. It would have been in my 2% growing instead.
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Best Regards,

Dolphy

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004

I am about to lock this topic off.

I can tell you that ALL members that were entitled to the convention guarantee received it.

Dennis, I think Gary has given you incorrect information because the topups were not included in the calculations. If an account earned US$560, it earned US$560 irrespective of whether those funds were used to pay for the monthly fee or your grocery bill.

Some members, including some that have posted in this thread have earned more than US$8000 and they have the temerity to post that they did not receive the guarantee.

If you had a number of accounts that earned more than the cost of the convention then you were not entitled to it. Some members that had MM2 positions or more than one MM1 position that were earning money, (some with top positions), but booked under a position that did not make it they are still claiming the guarantee.

If an account is in your name it is your account, if you purchased an account from another member which earned money, it did not qualify because others have withdrawn funds from it.

This is the end of this topic.

The guarantee was honoured for those who qualified, which was a lot of members.

Bryan
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regards,
Forum Admin

[workeasy]

So,what are you saying???

[mrl]

YOU no what he or she is saying story after story.Now what they a Troll now
for telling the truth.

[weseeall]

From what I remembered about this -- the people who qualified was paid --just like it said.
there was some who wanted to get a little extra from this -- but Anusha was the one checking these accounts and I have all confidence in her, so I am sure that she did the correct thing and everyone got paid that was supposed to.

So this is really an example that said Bryan lived up to his word -- not what some are trying to make of it.

[bali]

I went to Langkawi Convention together with my husband. My account was in profit, so I got NOTHING back!!! But 2 months later after the Convention took place, suddenly there was a huge amount deposited in my husband's account. And it came from PureInvestor.

My husband didnot cash it out but used the money to buy extra units for his account.

Bali

[whatis]

If you booked and did NOT go then you did not get paid anything back ......
And that I remember reading a way back then.

I Had booked and Paid but due to Health reasons was not able to attend.
(anuerysm in aorta word have popped)
Laurie

[denarm]

Hello..

I am the Dennis A. who wrote the above. I was fighting on behalf of a friend that had gone to Langkawi based on Bryan's promise. However, Mr. Gary N. did everything in his power to prevent my friend from getting the convention guarantee. At the time, I thought simply that Bryan was behind the stalling. Now given the information that I have, I believe that Mr. Gary N. was even then sowing the seeds of PIPS distruction.

I know that many will not believe me, but I know that first impressions are very important. When I first met Mr. Gary N. at the "meet the troops" session in Langkawi, my first impression of Gary N. was that he was a pompous ass. That just goes to show you what I didn't know. Clearly, as we all know now, he is a very clever man. Indeed a worthy opponent.

Dennis A.

[special1]

[Edited, This post was made by dogman] removed. Admin

[$$$$$]

Special1:

Please!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET A LIFE! YOU DON'T LISTEN so why bother commenting!

[weseeall]

Is this Gary's son ????? Anyone knows ???????

Yep, let's all blame Gary N. again, now. Bryan is innocent. If Gary was so guilty, then why did Bryan keep him around so long? This is just total BS. People don't want to accept that Bryan robbed them, so they are now trying to blame everybody else.

It's like the evil 4 - I'm sure they are Gary, Billy, Warren, but I can't think of who else?