Any body know when picpay,pips and pipstrust come back online ??
thanks
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Any body know when picpay,pips and pipstrust come back online ??
thanks
We all would like to know :lol: :lol:
Guess we'll get more concrete info once the meeting in Gent has taken place , is Bryan making the trip?
No, Bryan will not be in Gent. All that is going to happen in Gent is the presentation of different program(s), including the one that is put together by Warren, Gary and Robin Marter.
No pips info in Gent!
Jan
According to the UK forum Bryan is on bail and is not allowed to leave the country. Make of that what you will.
That's pretty normal for someone who is being investigated.
Not talking from experience Wacky are you!? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Excuse me, but we were told in the UK that Robyn Marter was going out to see BM in order to advise him how to restructure and/or to do a rescue package for PIPS . BM paid him for a month to be out there and he(RM) then returned to UK on 14/08 just before BN raided the offices. He is one the UK consultants who everyone was told might be able to sort out BM and make him see some sense, this was common knowledge at the time and therefore is not confidential info.
From your post Argon this does not appear the case, it seems that RM has joined up with others to start a new programme. Interestingly since he returned to UK there has been no comment from him whatsoever with regards to his progress or lack of it whilst he was with BM. When the question has been posed, all UK members heard was the cliche of confidentiality preventing him from saying anything - well I ask you!
I am thinking that we have a high level of disengenuous behaviour here. I know that members who are going to Ghent see this mini convention as the 'Promised Land' where they think that they are all going to be offered some sort of new deal that will reimburse their lost funds, RexM has said as much in a previous thread and said it will not be a HYIP.
I know many Amici members read this forum and I hope they are sensible enough to comprehend just what is going on and be very careful before they agree to part with any of their money.
As for Picpay- it cannot come back on line EVER. PIPS and PICPAY are two entirely different entities and the sooner some members realise this the better. Even if PIPS were to come back on line and even if you could log into your account and it showed zillions in you ROL, you cannot remove them because PIPCPAY is finished. If you don't believe me just think about it. PICPAY is an unworkable payment platform unsupported with funds.
BN's quarrel is with PICPAY not PIPS because it's very existence has broken Malaysian banking laws and that's fact not fiction. In other words, unless BM and Co can come up with an alternative, legal, payment platform supported by gold there will never be a way to realise the PIPS 2% programme.
If you disagree then I invite you to explain to us all why you disagree and how you see the future with regard to withdrawing your ROL. Let's face it, that is now the $64,000 question.
Those rejoicing because PIPS is predicted to come on line again soon should be very cautious else I fear you will be very disappointed. I still remain agahst at the level of naivety that is permeating ALL the Forums right now.
Galadriel
On this area, I can't agree more with you outright.... 8) :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by galadriel
YB.
Don't have a problem with remaining positive. People have put all their hopes in this programme. don't see why they shouldn't remain optimistic until BM says it's over or we hear from authorities that it is all over.
It could be that PSKfinance will be used for the outstanding withdrawals. We really don't know what BM has in mind. If P**s site comes up tomorrow, Thursday, or Friday, it will give everyone a huge lift, there's no denying that, moreso if there's a message from BM himself.
I'm hanging in there. 8)
Well, gee whiz I am hanging in there too. There is nothing else I can do! I invested a wee bit more than $450 and so I have a little more attention for the boards than most members.
As for the level of correct information I have seen on the forums that I am on, there is not much positive that is provable. There are some negatives that are being harped on that have been proved.
Picpay looks like it SHOULD be gone completely. The level of fraud and non-compliance with statements and laws there has been proven and is obvious. A new payment platform will have to be constructed for us to see any actual money from our zillions in rol.
Does PIPS have the money to pay us all our rol again? Was Bryan ever involved in any PPP? Will I ever see my initial investment back, let alone the millions I could theoretically collect in the not-too-distant future? After having no wd for 9 months, I have a completely different opinion on what to do with my rol setting if PIPS ever comes back online. I wonder how many other members will attempt to get out as much money as fast as possible, and what that will do to the program...
It doesn't matter if the sites come back up if we have no legal payment platform. I am tired of watching the auto-generated rol script turn over day after day anyway. What I would like to see is some money in my bank account, and I really do not care how that is accomplished or who accomplishes it at this point.
I have never met Bryan, but from those I have talked to he sounds like a man of the best character. I am not sure what impact that has on this situation anymore. I have no idea what the financial situation of PIPS is. I have no idea what is possible with a new payment platform. I feel like a financially insolvent mushroom! LOL
Like most people who continue to watch the boards, I just want to get paid at some point, but have to wonder if that is ever going to happen. And the People In Patience System continues...
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Originally Posted by galadriel
Well I sort of disagree. Why? Because Pips is where our 2% is being created not Picpay. I would imagine that IF BON really did investigate Pips and its holding companies then surely they would have verified that what the total worth of the Pips accounts were equaled to what was in trading or bank accounts. So to me IF PipsInc is cleared by the BON then you would think that means that our ROL is REAL and it is tangible money. Picpay is just a payment gateway. That is all. But lets face it the complaints have to do with not receiving money. And where did members and merchants get most of the supposed funds to buy these items? From the Pips account! So to me the Pips accounts were actually more important to verify and investigate to make sure the numbers add up than Picpay. And thats not to say that an investigation into Picpay was not important. :wink:
But thats my take on it.... :lol:
I agree,ROLmania! PSKfinance will likely be the new payment platform.
Mike
I agree ROLmania and I even dare say, the faster picpay is dumped the better. It was a cespit! I really don't see how loosing picpay could be a disaster big enough to drag pips down. Picpay and pips are not joined by the hip or a siamese twin. They are two seperate entities with picpay unfortunately under scrutiny since it is based in malaysia. I say dump picpay and bring in a real payment platform.
I really don get this doom and gloom, calling people naive and so on. The facts alone should set you straight.
The thing that I find amusing with all this speculation and imparting of knowledge about what is what, is that I am just waiting for all this to be complated and then I will see how all the people posting will recover from what they are posting now and work into what the reality turns out to be.
I can see I will have lots of amusing posts to read.
I agree; Picpay will probably be replaced by something else (pskfinance?)Quote:
Originally Posted by galadriel
BUT...Picpay IS supported by gold! At least I have heard that, various times; backed by a gold reserve in Australia.
/Karin
If picpay was supported by gold, then this investigation would not be taking place. Furthermore, we would have our wd by now. So, where is our money? Hmm?
Oh, right, being used to make a grand future. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! LOL
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