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    Quote Originally Posted by rsm
    I hear you, I paid with PayPal so I know he got my money. I think I will look into getting a charge back. See how he likes that!

    What a scam...lifetime membership....only lasted for 7months..I am still alive!!

    PipsUSA site shows this:

    Your payment history

    Product Period Payment System Amount
    PayPal 01/05/2005 01/05/2015 $117.50

    Hmmmmmmmmmmm
    You are right. So what this tell's you? What kind promise IB is keeping?

    I will never trust him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crispy
    Quote Originally Posted by flyer0810
    Quote Originally Posted by kermit
    Lots of others paid by paypal also, They have been posting at other forums.
    I understand some people might have payed with payapl but the money was all going into picpay to be used as an on going source of income for pips-usa. Let's not pretend to know the percentages of who payed how but the concept was the same.

    Lifetime membership = picpay up and withdrawls being paid.

    No more no less.

    I truly hope that Bryan can come through all this because only then with the witch hunts stop.

    Flyer0810
    Flyer,

    While I can agree on some things here I don't on the $100 that people paid with paypal.

    If the money was invested unwisely I can't take the blame for it. I would at least like to get my 1 year out of that $100.00. I think that would have been the right thing for Billy to do.

    I will pay the $10.00 a month for now but that could change depending upon wher BTI goes.
    I think I can agree with you on that crispy. I'm in as well but if I don't like where it goes I would leave as well. But right now I like it so its worth it to me.

    As for the poeple who paid in other forms... it is a tough one for Billy to make a decision on and I'm just glad I don't have to make that type of call.

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    If you paid with credit card then you can get in. If you are one of the some 1300 who joined with PicPay - then you can't. Nothing personal, BTI was treated just like all the other merchants when the feces hit the fan. They COULDN'T be paid.

    I imagine all who joined with PicPay will be able to get their money back if they cancel their order when we get back in business.

    I understand "Irish Billy's" problem. Apparently he didn't understand Pips problem. I won't be re-joining BTI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyer0810
    Quote Originally Posted by kermit
    Lots of others paid by paypal also, They have been posting at other forums.
    I understand some people might have payed with payapl but the money was all going into picpay to be used as an on going source of income for pips-usa. Let's not pretend to know the percentages of who payed how but the concept was the same.

    Lifetime membership = picpay up and withdrawls being paid.

    No more no less.

    I truly hope that Bryan can come through all this because only then with the witch hunts stop.

    Flyer,

    You're wasting your time trying to get through to them. Don't bother.

    I could see the rationale for the fee as soon as it was announced.

    I wouldn't pay to be a member of this one, though. :lol:

    Bill

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    When I paid the $100, nowhere did it say that it was only good for a lifetime membership if Picpay would not fold. Nowhere was it mentioned that bad investment by management would have an effect on my membership.

    I bought a lifetime membership ..... it's that simple.

    Then Billy et al changed the name of Pips-USA in BTI and now they are saying: yes, it was a lifetime mebership. Not your lifetime, Pips-USA lifetime. So now we want more of your money! Look what you're getting for it:
    -You are allowed to sign up in our downline so we make even more money on you
    - We will give you unreliable updates on Pips
    - we will introduce you to programs where former Pips employees and consultants have their hand in
    - We'll endlessly talk about healthcare programs
    - We promise to find more programs that are set up by people like Brian Garvin and others who have ripped off thousands of small investors before
    - You have access to a controlled forum where we promise to delete all posts that are not in our favour

    ...................... Please feel free to send me your money if you are so gullible to part with it. All you have to send me is $9 per moneth so you have the feeling that you're ahead of the game. I promise not to ask you to sing up for any program or email you or bother you with anything else that could make me more money.

    Jan

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    Good points, Jan. Precisely why I'm no longer a member!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by argon
    When I paid the $100, nowhere did it say that it was only good for a lifetime membership if Picpay would not fold. Nowhere was it mentioned that bad investment by management would have an effect on my membership.

    I bought a lifetime membership ..... it's that simple.

    Then Billy et al changed the name of Pips-USA in BTI and now they are saying: yes, it was a lifetime mebership. Not your lifetime, Pips-USA lifetime. So now we want more of your money! Look what you're getting for it:
    -You are allowed to sign up in our downline so we make even more money on you
    - We will give you unreliable updates on Pips
    - we will introduce you to programs where former Pips employees and consultants have their hand in
    - We'll endlessly talk about healthcare programs
    - We promise to find more programs that are set up by people like Brian Garvin and others who have ripped off thousands of small investors before
    - You have access to a controlled forum where we promise to delete all posts that are not in our favour

    ...................... Please feel free to send me your money if you are so gullible to part with it. All you have to send me is $9 per moneth so you have the feeling that you're ahead of the game. I promise not to ask you to sing up for any program or email you or bother you with anything else that could make me more money.

    Jan
    I love your post. You are 100% right. That is exectly how you said it.

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    I'm in the same boat with you all! :D I'm not going to pay another 10 bucks a month when I had already paid for a lifetime membership :evil: ! Good thing we have this club!

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    Except for the CU, I was already familiar with what he's introduced so far and would have already joined if I wanted to. So far, the $10 a month would have done me absolutely no good. At least Billy could have made the forum a read only for non-members at least thru September to see if it might be worth $10 for future programs. The only legacy BTI has left with me is a bunch of crumby MLM opportunities which will no doubt help no one but upper manangement unless you work your arse off. Been there done that and never made any money. Always lost money and expended too much time and energy for nought. Thats how I see it!

    -Cloud-

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    Hmm,

    Well ur not the first to complain about Irish Billy judging from the many postings I have seen in various forums.

    I know of at least twenty (former) BTI members who quit in discust over whats going on there.

    Perhaps more to follow :lol:

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