Thread: Understanding some of the truths...

Originally Posted by captainfeathersword

So crispy, why, when prompted by Warren, did Billy encourage a "run" on picpay just before the BoN investigation started ??????

Simply put...It would be a smart idea. If PIPS is found to be fraud or illegal and the companies were to be desolved this capital would go to paying members who had withdrawls.

I think it was good advice to have both withdrawls and money in PIPS. That way you are covered.

That is what Billy was suggesting.

Originally Posted by argon

Let's put it this way crispy:

Either willingly or unwillingly, Billy has gotten under the influence of Warren and Gary. There is all kind of prove for that. Without any doubt, he is being influenced by Tex and by the 2 English consultants. Enough proof for that as well.

He has become unrelyable in his updates, he has given the Pips members advice that would have worked against Bryan (put your money in picpay and ask for withdrawals, Bryan has not been arrested, Bryan has been arrested, he admitted he was aware of misappropriations but did not inform us, he advocates the take-over by interim mangement, etc etc etc).

I don't give him the credit that he would have masterminded all this misery, but he is not squeaky clean either!

Personaly, I had respect for the guy 2 years ago. Now, I would not get involved with anything he proposes that I did not check out myself front, back and centre. This does not mean that all programs he puts forward are bad .... I have been involved with PlexPay for quite a while and we have a very nice team working together ....... but I do not need him to be awarded for his avoidance of the truth by joining any program under him. Billy is making and will make a lot of money because, to say this mildly, he has refused to let us know the truth as it was known to him and has twisted that truth to his purpose and advantage.

IMO Jan

What Proof?

Originally Posted by argon

Let's put it this way crispy:

Either willingly or unwillingly, Billy has gotten under the influence of Warren and Gary. There is all kind of prove for that. Without any doubt, he is being influenced by Tex and by the 2 English consultants. Enough proof for that as well.

He has become unrelyable in his updates, he has given the Pips members advice that would have worked against Bryan (put your money in picpay and ask for withdrawals, Bryan has not been arrested, Bryan has been arrested, he admitted he was aware of misappropriations but did not inform us, he advocates the take-over by interim mangement, etc etc etc).

I don't give him the credit that he would have masterminded all this misery, but he is not squeaky clean either!

Personaly, I had respect for the guy 2 years ago. Now, I would not get involved with anything he proposes that I did not check out myself front, back and centre. This does not mean that all programs he puts forward are bad .... I have been involved with PlexPay for quite a while and we have a very nice team working together ....... but I do not need him to be awarded for his avoidance of the truth by joining any program under him. Billy is making and will make a lot of money because, to say this mildly, he has refused to let us know the truth as it was known to him and has twisted that truth to his purpose and advantage.

IMO Jan

Billy is not in league with anybody,he has made that quite clear in a post today.Its true he has grabbed an opportunity for himself and the members,but so what.

I think somebody is deliberately distorting the whole situation now.All this conspiracy nonsense has no foundation whatsoever.

We all hope the NEGARA investigation will go Bryans way, but until we know the outcome, stop accusing everybody and his brother.We have to wait.

Billy not in league with anybody? Oh come on.....Why is he pushing their programs and defending them then....... :P

Originally Posted by minihaa

Well, something is going on, that is for sure.

Yes..Some people are covering there a@# in case pips falls (diversifying) while others just point fingers around and blame everyone else.

I persoanlly don't trust a thing that is posted in any forum. I will wait to see it for myself. I have seen all the info that comes from people who claim to have "People close to the business" and your information is crap.
I have yet to see any of come true. It has all been speculation and rumor.

Billy has always tried to get information straight from the source. All these others post info from who knows who and claim they have answers. So where are they? It was only a few weeks ago you so called "have the answers people" (4dataxman) made all kinds of predictions that have never even come close. You are like fortune tellers. You give little info that could cover lots to try and make your predictions sound good. :lol: :lol:

This conspiracy theory just cracks me up :lol: . The answer could walk up and slap you on the face and you wouldn't believe it.

I have no idea what is goign on or what the out come will be but i won't sit here and pass judgement on Billy or bryan. Obvioulsy you people have way to much time on your hands or very good creative writing skills.

:?

What proof do you want to start with? I posted the email FROM Gary, regarding THEIR program...

They moved fast for two guys that have ONLY been out of Pips for a month? Don't you think?

Have you seen the presentation? I have! It is 34 pages in length, talking about structure etc.

You don't wake up one day and have a plan in place, and then structure everything, corporation wise, in LESS than a month..

Things have been in place!

crispy!

Bingo!....I am waiting from the final truth, and only ONE person (Bryan) will be able to give us that (his own version)!

In the meantime, I will definately continue to read the bible (Rolclub), smile!

hine

Originally Posted by 4dataxman

What proof do you want to start with? I posted the email FROM Gary, regarding THEIR program...

They moved fast for two guys that have ONLY been out of Pips for a month? Don't you think?

Have you seen the presentation? I have! It is 34 pages in length, talking about structure etc.

You don't wake up one day and have a plan in place, and then structure everything, corporation wise, in LESS than a month..

Things have been in place!

How is this proof that Billy is involved with them?

Originally Posted by Shell

Billy not in league with anybody? Oh come on.....Why is he pushing their programs and defending them then....... :P

Shell - How would know what programs Billy is pushing and with whom it is with? BTI is not the problem but if it helps you sleep at night blaming someone else, then go ahead. I am glad Billy is doing some leg work to find other programs. Why would you put all your eggs in one basket??? Most people on BTI what pips to succeed but are also wiser to spread their monies in case any one program fails you have a backup.

When PIPS does come back I would hope that you take some of your money and put it into other investments and not just PIPS. Isn't that what Bryan was doing? He didn't just invest in investments, he was creating other businesses so that PIPS would survive long term. That way one failure wouldn't make PIPS as a whole crumble.

Please think this stuff through.

Flyer0810

Originally Posted by flyer0810

Originally Posted by Shell

Billy not in league with anybody? Oh come on.....Why is he pushing their programs and defending them then....... :P

Shell - How would know what programs Billy is pushing and with whom it is with?
Flyer0810

I have the information from sound sources...............

PS
I do not have time to discuss with you, just so you are warned...........