Thread: PIPSINC HEARING NEWS - 22/May/07

Thanks Bat$,

Sure appreciate your time to help everyone come to terms with final closure on this nightmare of a fiasco. As to the e-Gold issues, and difficulty moving our donations to this cause has become risky, so I would like to donate my moderators share of dinar Marek still has to this cause. Please use it for Bat$ expenses instead of sending the dinar out when it is finally released. I'll leave it to Marek to take care of it at his convenience as I do not use e-Gold.

Good luck and health to all, Mike

I have just received a PM for which a member is ready and wanting to donate and not involve EGold or any other E-currency out there.

I have decided on another option as a feasible alternative which may meet many of those wanting to donate other than using EGold etc…

I shall involve this new alternative to help out the funding cause and will rejuvenate the other thread that is still valid to pursue the status of funds for the Trial which theBat$ will continue to cover on behalf of ROLClub and Members concerned over the Marsdens Trial.

This alternative will be with an American Bank and all funds will be transferred to it which also means, Big brother is monitoring fully over it…which is A-OK with me on this score! Only US dollars will be handled as the Bank and account is in the USA.

I hope it also gives you as Donor/contributor, a sense of security and as for transparency; I’ll have that closely updated where donors can follow easily.

This is a private and NOT a Corporate account as I am a Retiree and thus, not in a capacity to fulfill all the legal & administrative demands of a corporate account but simply as a checking account would, it is simple and easy to maintain.

I think it will also be easier for transfer to theBat$ but whatever the costs and fees or charges that comes with it, I can have that substantiated with the hard copies accompanied with the account.

I will release the details once Marek and myself have discussed and agreed on this alternative option.


YB.

Spiceman - I don't wish to appear prejudiced but how do you know him as an honest person by having met him in Las Vegas? It doesn't seem much of an endorsement in view of the thousands who sent their funds to him for no return.
There is no way in which the Marsdens could possibly repay their debt to society and especially to their investors.
The lawyer appointed to him by the court and paid for by the Malaysian taxpayer (what happened to all the money he received?) is well qualified and a distinguished member of the Malaysian bar. Who else would you suggest? And, with all due respect, Malaysia is not a third world country, their interpretation and performance of law are based upon those of the United Kingdom, where most of their lawyers are trained.
I am very supportive of funds to send a representative, the admirable Batt$, to report on the case for members. It is not a high profile case as far as the local press are concerned and is unlikely to make the headlines.
Two bit scammers don't get much lineage!

Originally Posted by Owen Platt

Spiceman - I don't wish to appear prejudiced but how do you know him as an honest person by having met him in Las Vegas? It doesn't seem much of an endorsement in view of the thousands who sent their funds to him for no return.

A lot of people overestimate their ability to detect deceiving behavior in others and underestimate the acting abilities of a true sociopath (and here's a hint: They never feel they need to run, in fact, they might come around again and ask for more.

There is no way in which the Marsdens could possibly repay their debt to society and especially to their investors.

Very true. However, as they say, karma can be a *****. Wouldn't wanna be in their shoes.

And, with all due respect, Malaysia is not a third world country, their interpretation and performance of law are based upon those of the United Kingdom, where most of their lawyers are trained.

One hopes that Spiceman did not mean to describe Malaysia in those terms, my guess is he's probably never visited it.

Spiceman, it sadens me that after all that has happened and come to light you still place hopes with this man. I do hope that things will turn out well for you and the kids.

Hello Marek! When we transfer money from bank Acc. for e. $25, they take
$20-25 for transfer. I think is better to open bank Acc. give to us Acc# and
Address and people send cheque or Int.Money Order.
Just my sugestion.
pysanka

Originally Posted by pysanka

I think is better to open bank Acc. give to us Acc# and Address and people send cheque or Int.Money Order.
Just my sugestion.
pysanka

It won't be long now and once the account is ready, it will be made known.


YB.

I'd contribute a bit too, if there was an wasy way to do it. I also agree that having someone at the trial is how we'll get the best info. Personally, the easiest for me, would be to just put a few dollars in the mail and send it to someone... like the bat.

Owen and Mrdome,

You two members of same group, please do not make any comments in this thread which has no association with topic here and a specially making remarks without creditable information and based only on assumptions. If you want discuss anything of that topic please choose right thread for it.

Reason for mine remark is that if any pro-pips member would state something from their point of view, they would be warned and criticized by Admin and Mods.

I just want things fall in right place with fairness.

Originally Posted by spiceman

I do agree... no one can access assets that are frozen.. However it is my opinion that the attorney handling BMM's case has his hands tied-up either by the authorities there or has too much on his 'plate' to be concerned about the Marsdens... There must be some Legal, in the international community who may be able to make progress with this situation. I have lived in a third-world country and seen the process of persons arrested ... The legal process can take 10 years if there is no proper representation..
I personally have an outstanding investments in PIPS but at this time I am financially depressed having to support my deceased daughter's 3 kids. I am hoping that with the recovery of PIPS I could do a lot better.
I do hope someone can find the way to help Bryan. I know him as a honest person as I met him in Las Vegas. He has helped so many of us and we need to try to help now that he is in need. May God be with him.

This is pretty sickening to believe that their are those.... still. All this time later, who do not realize that Bryan not the authorities are the problem.... that Bryan is not the answer, he never was.. He is just a pathological liar, thief, con man He has no answers and he is where he belongs...hopefully for several more years for the pain and loss he has caused to the likes of this poor soul...

Ahhh... come on now, Boatman, quit beating around the bush and tell us what you really feel.

Thelema