Update from the Auspips Forum re BM

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topwinners



Joined: 02 Sep 2004
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:24 am Post subject: Statement from Bryan!!!

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Hi All,

I just received a call from Bryan, he asked me to make this post as, unfortunately, due to circumstances beyond his control, he is unable to access his computors

Bryan asks that everyone to please remain calm, he is currently involved with meetings with the Malaysian authorities, further meetings are planned over the next couple of days to resolve a number of issues.

Bryan expressed his confidence that all issues will be resolved and asked me to convey his thanks and appreciation for all the support.

Thats it for now!!

All the best

Tom

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adren



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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:31 am Post subject:

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Tom thanks a lot for your post!!!
At least some fresh info from first hand!!!
THANKS!!!

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f360



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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:48 am Post subject:

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Thanks Tom! The best news (since it's from the source) in days!

Thanks again, and should you talk to Bryan again I am sure you
can say that the majority of pipsters are as always 100% behind him!!!!!!!!!

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mezzy
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:01 pm Post subject:

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Thanks Tom. Hopefully it will all work out!
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play2xs



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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:51 pm Post subject:

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I can confirm that Bank Negara (Central Bank of Malaysia) raided the Pips offices at about 2:00 p.m. on Tuesday. Computers and handphones were seized and other materials requisitioned.

The incident involved about 15-20 Investigating officers and a number of uniformed police. The Pips and Picpay offices were closed and remain closed today. Staff were kept till late in the evening and the next day while statements were taken.

All websites have been taken down at the direction of Bank Negara's officers.

There is some speculation that the offices will re-open shortly, possibly Monday, but to what end, I cannot say.

It remains to be seen what will be the outcome of this investigation, but with recently reported debts for Picpay of over US $300,000,000.00 and very little in the way of assets to fund it, there appears to be a prima facie case for the Central Bank's concern. Myself and other informed members also share this concern.

Bryan has indicated through Tom that he is confident that the 'issues' will be sorted out. I don't share Tom's or Bryan's optimism, although it would be good if that could happen. Tom has the benefit of all the information I have and he obviously remains very close to Bryan, so it stands to reason that he has more up to date information than I do. Let's all hope Tom and Bryan are right and I'm wrong.

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neild1971



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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:57 pm Post subject:

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Thanks for the Update, this is one crazy rollercoaster ride

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kahbrit



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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:04 pm Post subject:

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neild1971 wrote:
Thanks for the Update, this is one crazy rollercoaster ride


Well said Neil1971, my thoughts exactly!
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Picabooo



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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:18 pm Post subject:

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play2xs wrote:
... Let's all hope Tom and Bryan are right and I'm wrong.

For once I agree with you.

Thanks Tom

Nostrade

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play2xs



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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:49 pm Post subject:

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Picabooo wrote:

For once I agree with you.

Nostrade


Well.. for once you'd be right

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Picabooo



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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:59 pm Post subject:

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Well, seams like it is PicPay that is causing the problems...
Why not just shut that department down? I surely can accept the loss of funds I have at PicPay. All that counts for me is my PIPS-account.



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annie



Joined: 20 Jun 2005
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:59 pm Post subject:

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so play2xs, you have an informer in the company? or you didn't spit the dummy after all? or you were invited there by the bank?

just curious

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Bumpster
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:07 pm Post subject:

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Picabooo wrote:
Well, seams like it is PicPay that is causing the problems...
Why not just shut that department down? I surely can accept the loss of funds I have at PicPay. All that counts for me is my PIPS-account.




You can't just wipe off $300mil. Besides if you can do it once whats to stop you doing it again.. we would never get anything.
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Picabooo



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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:11 pm Post subject:

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Bumpster wrote:
Picabooo wrote:
Well, seams like it is PicPay that is causing the problems...
Why not just shut that department down? I surely can accept the loss of funds I have at PicPay. All that counts for me is my PIPS-account.




You can't just wipe off $300mil. Besides if you can do it once whats to stop you doing it again.. we would never get anything.

I wouldn't quote the figure allthough I do get your point. Besides we don't know that the money (whatever amount it is) isn't there...
But IF Picpay is short on money, what would your solution be? Close it all?

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mailman



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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:23 pm Post subject:

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Maybe they were investigating why Picrealty is no longer accepting Picpay after all isn't that an easy payment platform for members?

Soloution I think would be to advise members we have not been able to trade last 2-3 months so unfortunately no ROL until further notice. ROL will be back to normal as soon as our investments return to normal. (an example)

This would stop the horse bolting from the cart!

Also I think accepting new members with so much outstanding would look bad in eyes of authorities. If that was closed adequate communication to members on what problem is and steps to rectify situation would appease authorities and members.

Just a thought

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awesome8



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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:29 pm Post subject:

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annie wrote:
so play2xs, you have an informer in the company? or you didn't spit the dummy after all? or you were invited there by the bank?

just curious


I believe that play2xs is Warren, former consultant to PIPS.

awesome8

[gettins]

I believe Annie's post is insightful.

[feelgood2]

OK, thats it! I am going to do today what I did yesterday about PIPS, Just hangin loose. LOL! What ever transpires will be and there ain't Jack we can do, Soooo, I'll just wait it out :lol:

[nobody]

Well lets all get ONE thing straight,,, Picpay is History,,, thats why none of the other business's would accept it anymore,,,thats why the Merchants were stopped,,,thats why there's another gateway in the making (PSK).
BoN is restructuring Picpay,,not PIPS, so all you negitive people can start on that aspect, and you know who you are!!! And so do we!!!!!

[nair]

hi friends

closing picpay!!!!!!! wow wonderful thought ., but people never imagined about saying this .,,

picpay will have a restructure that in the sense it will be working all through inside malaysian wings ., but the best possibility is picpay being transferred with license being cancelled and the trade operations will be carried out from another jurisdiction.,

closing picpay may hamper pips image ., also picpay is not the root cause ., the idea that emerged picpay is the cause ., and the way they got it registered in malaysia is the setback behind ., as pips did the thing in BVI it should have gotta its legs footed at an offshore origin just having offices in malaysia but all primary transacts from another offshore jurisdiction.

Hope picpay wont be closed but will get transformed as a payment platform between the new bank ;so no contravention is possible just moving money from one bank to another bank is not violation implied within malaysian banking laws. But transacting within malaysia with legal identity is the setback.

Hope things are better on the way.

Don't frown about anything .,

ever friendly
swami nair

[onfortheride]

hi friends

closing picpay!!!!!!! wow wonderful thought ., but people never imagined about saying this .,,


1)closing picpay may hamper pips image .2)also picpay is not the root cause .,

1) PIPS image is pretty much in the gutter so who cares let's just do what needs to be done.
2)with all the fraudulent picpay going around I think PICPAY has a large share of the problem.
3)But transacting within malaysia with legal identity is the setback(well I would hate for us to do anything illegal.):lol:


Just my 2 cents but I like your posts. :D

[nair]

hi friends

closing picpay!!!!!!! wow wonderful thought ., but people never imagined about saying this .,,


1)closing picpay may hamper pips image .2)also picpay is not the root cause .,

1) PIPS image is pretty much in the gutter so who cares let's just do what needs to be done.
2)with all the fraudulent picpay going around I think PICPAY has a large share of the problem.
3)But transacting within malaysia with legal identity is the setback(well I would hate for us to do anything illegal.):lol:


Just my 2 cents but I like your posts. :D

well said .,

so a restructure is what I meant ., the third point is : transacting within malaysian legality is a setback., when operations are done in BVI and panama ... control of funds in malaysia is a setback ., this brought all hell.

I do know picpay caused troubles that does not mean picpay should be shut down for the diseases incurred ., this does mean like killing a patient instead of diseases.

wait patience pays the rest.,anyhow thanx for ur expression.

ever friendly

swami nair