Originally Posted by
YogiBrood
You are right and certainly will gain our support morally speaking & sincerely meant as well and I'm sure for a fact, many have now realized, how ignorant they have been to have once ignored the fact & serious involvement at what we undertook. It was a serious effort and undertaking which paved the way as well with recognition and acceptance as the one of several, legally submitted attempts which the Malaysian authorities then accepted and gave the due process, the right for a Refund based on the amount, THEY deemed fit and legal by Malaysian jurisdiction, to be handled only through the given channel back then and that involved a process which is only to be arranged by each and every representation from a Law firm assigned and approved by the Courts. All that undertaking would not succeed nor take place from simply through a Forum's obligation to many of its members who exchanged some posts, anti or supportive of BM, halfheartedly donating and then sit back like a dream for the refund.
There are actually more to it than meets the eye and Admin and I as being instrumental on behalf of ROLClub, made sure a system was in place and although it may prove unpopular, it was the ONLY effective method to have serious claimants making their due claims stick and stayed STUCK to the very end. Words alone just don't prevail and nothing can be achieved either if it was expected to be pursued without continued costs to sustain the entire process.
With that executed, the case ended and was closed and there is NOTHING more to go onto for as far as the Authorities in Malaysia is concerned after the approved refund as deemed appropriate by the Malaysian Court was paid out.
I say & mention this without reservation. I also knew, just how difficult it was to finally assigned a local Law Office to confront the Authorities on their own turf and that was only possible while the subject, Bryan Marsden, is still behind bars. With a certain procedure which involved the Refund process, was then enacted and resumed within a time frame given. Past that by one day being late, and any Claimant or Legal Representation being slack and ignorant can kiss their submitted application down the drain as was a case for an Australian couple with local representation and they made a number of flight trips themselves but I believe, they could afford it I'm sure which isn't going for cheap but at a loss eventually due to timing, bad timing and VERY poor Legal representation with a disreputable and probably insensitive but greedy law firm as well.
Its all about rules laid down specifically by the presiding court and timing too is crucial and that was key to everything being played out and we, on behalf of the Claimants, who were fortunate to be part of the ROLClub assisted List and being self supporting with further individual legal costs, played out well and in good timing given by the serious handling we involved ourselves in from the very start.
Those who took it lightly, trailed off and/or ignored it for all the reasons they had despite the many reminders, even on a voluntary basis, with the subtle donations indicated, that was a way to stay on board. Ignore it, means, you ignore and forfeit your own right to stay interactive and cooperate on a collective approach with those that did and remained in the pursuit for their goal, the claim & refund... one way or the other.
I am positive on any warranted pursuit but certainly, to stay pragmatic, equally far from optimistic as far as confronting the Malaysian authorities, for there is nothing more to approach on or knock on at the door of WHOM? The Bank as you suggested?
Certainly that's a start, at the front door & it will remain close for the mere fact that the case is long done & over (case CLOSED) and having the case re-open not only needs a new attempt with a legal representation who again may end up with no facts at hand or provided by the Bank or courts and thus, a dead end valley welcoming the lawyers and with rising legal fees from the very beginning for all the "late would-be claimants" that was first needed to be raised and collected, administered and transferred to pay upfront to a local Law firm who more than likely, will take the money while offering & claiming the options: No money NO TALK while knowing all along, its free money to a dead cause but what the heck, its a free ride from an extra cash-flow from these lot, wherever they come from!!!
Yes, the other option you raised, which I repeatedly mention earlier, is go after Bryan himself and that would need more time but find him first & foremost, narrow down his location for apprehension by local Law enforcers and naturally, supported by a Lawyers writ with charges slammed at him and while he's arraigned, and given the time he remains in custody, ALL OF YOU better not waste any more time bickering on a decision but get your act together with a floating amount of $$$s to fund all necessary coverage and arrangements to set up a Legal assignment for a Claim and we can as we did, assist where needed in staying instrumental with managing a List of Claimants and their regular fundings to sustain the process like we did with managing effectively with the Malaysian Refund objective.
YB.
