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Were you close to Brian Marsden?
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all this is good reading , but I am not going to hold my breath . I firmly beleive it is totally OVER for any of us to recoup our losses from PIPS Even if they win their case I think the billions are gone. JMHO/.
If YOU want to get in a ligitimate business then see my first ad in my signature and go to the Advertising forum for more details. I am already being paid.
I don't believe that PIPS is a scam, but more over a program which is not created in optimal way and I think that Brians biggest mistake was PICPAY.
Because you could transfer virtual money from your account to other members for a real money!
I personally believe that thousand of PIPS members were doing this and actually they are partially responsible for the failure and the cash deficit.
I also believe that if he had e-gold as a payment option we wouldn't go through this today.
That much is likely to be true. I remember when I spear-headed a push to get Bryan to use e-bullion; the owner of e-bullion thought Marsden was either a mental case or that he was operating a scam because of the absurd run arounds Marsden was giving him. I was a go-between for a period of about three weeks and, during that time, on Marsden's side, there was nothing but lies and BS coming out of him. He claimed all kinds of lies about e-bullion that were not true, but no one was interested in what e-bullion had to say about Bryan. Yes, if Bryan did not have the control he did, which was the reason he forumlated Picpay, we more than likely would have had the escapade done and over with before a few months of operation. Oh well, it went down the way it went down, and it is still on its way...down.
Best regards,
Thelema
Hehe... pardon me but how can one resist with what you just mentioned on those two bolded in red statements???:rofl: :biggrin:
I can however make this suggestion to you Trale, so you can trust the trail you make, to prove it to YOURSELF, not us, no need for that, but to yourself and everything good around it....by making a dedicated flight to Malaysia, go up to the Prosecutor's Office and make plans, reserve a front row seat on the next available trial and be prepared to be called as witness on the Marsdens cases as each gets presented.
Your genuine action will prove just how deeprooted you actually feel...naaahhh,it doesn't matter what you try to tell us or convince us with your belief....just make that trip and come back again...this Forum thread will still be open to accept your findings...unless you get held back by the Malaysians for abbetting ... I hope NOT, so you can return to give us a cool update...Selamat Jumpa when you next see them, the Marsdens of course!!!
While there, you can kill time with plenty of fabulous shopping with a special Discount card and at incredible cuisines in exotic haunts within the capital, Kuala Lumpur, check out how to get this Goldfinger's MWPlus card with the link below...:ro_emote:
I would agree that Picpay was a nail in the coffin of Pips. But it was a necessary development to bolster up the programme, if only temporarily.
Had Pips been legitimate in the first place, there would have been no need to resort to such a desperate and unworkable measure to conceal the true facts. There were plenty of legitimate 'payment processors' (we used to call them banks!) that were available to bona fide investment companies.
For many a scammer today , the Bryan Marsden Virtual Money Making Experiment was the Model for many of today's long running Scams and present New HYIPs. The flaws in Bryan's program they have perfected.
1) Bryan was too visable. Modern Scammers are more secretive and have structured things so that when it falls a part , the Promoter Leaders will take the fall and not the admins.
2) PicPay was a downfall for PIPS, but again others have come along and improved on it. The VIRTUAL funny Money called E-Points. Look at these Companies and research their terminology and you'll see the same script.
SwissCash , EsuisseFund , SwedenFund , WinliFund , AmityFund and a host of others with similiar names and terms within their website.
3) The Philosophy of we can offer you higher returns because we pay Taxes to no one and neither do you. We are not under any countries laws or regulations and neither are you. We live in a Virtual Cyber World and so do you.
Many of these Companies set up these investment Team Leaders with their own VIRTUAL website and success stories Testimonials with pictures and all , which are nothing more than a Police Line Up.
Yes , the modern day scammers today learned well from the Master and improved upon it.:ro_emote: