A leak

Well, sadly it has happened - which we all knew it would. The new
news (inside the back office) has been leaked on TG. I won't put the
link here but if you visit the place and use r24289-.html as the number
you will find it. That guy (eNuffZnuff) has really got issues. I mean
a lot of people have issues but this guy has ISSUES. If you visit his
post you will notice he has a website (if you click on that link) it goes
to another HYIP. So how can you take him seriously. He is saying
these programs are a SCAM, yet he promoting a "scam". So you be
the judge

I am just annoyed he posted private information

Ryder :idea:

Hopefully they'll be able to find out who he is and close his website.

Isn't he the adbites guy?

the problem will be: find out what this guy's user-ID is in the investment program and e-currency. You can't ban somebody if you can't identify him.

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Originally Posted by karin_brenig

the problem will be: find out what this guy's user-ID is in the investment program and e-currency. You can't ban somebody if you can't identify him.

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Karin, are you not one of the mods in TG?

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Originally Posted by TG Administrator

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Karen Brenigs, Motherlodes

I wouldn't ever say anything bad about these two people as they are mods for me here free of charge, and both do a fantastic job. Both are very friendly people who I've talked to many times. They are not scammers like David Suggests. Again I only made the post upon David's request. Not certain why he couldn't post him self.

brian

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http://talkgold.com/forum/r24211-.html

I believe (although I'm willing to be marked as wrong) that EnuffZnuff was the guy who started picpaysucks.com and that happened to resolve to the same IP address as adbites.com does... I can't check it right now cos I'm at work though. They might be able to trace it as I'm sure he bombarded picpay support demanding an instant WD.

They also might be able to trace the user by logged IP on the forum and by logged IP on PIPS/Picpay to identify the account.

BM knows exactly who the worm is and when it comes the supremacsist will not know what has hit him..

BTW Osnap don't reply to this..you know why

although this guy is totally nuts, but he owns a business and it has been totally RUINED by picpay's delays. put yourself in his place and see how would you react.

I used to be a moderator of three sub-forums/folders on TG.
But I quit that job.

I wasn't being paid for it, and I was starting to hate it.
It is no fun to wade thru hundreds of negative, insulting, or plain dumb posts daily and remove the worst.

I am a positive, outgoing, open and honest person - and reading the dirt on TG sometimes
made me feel bad for the rest of the day.

So I am not a moderator anymore at TG, and I don't post there anymore either.

Karin...glad to have you on our team!

krisark

Grace, mercy and forgiveness will help a man walk tall - JCM

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Originally Posted by kayalzinho

although this guy is totally nuts, but he owns a business and it has been totally RUINED by picpay's delays. put yourself in his place and see how would you react.

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That's not true. He gained new, extra business that he wouldn't have gained otherwise. Because he didn't get the money, his customers didn't get their orders - he is not out of pocket at all. Therefore, he has lost nothing and gained nothing. He is in exactly the same situation he would have been in had he not joined.

Actually, again, that's not strictly true. He's acted like such an ***** that he's probably turned away a whole bunch of prospective customers that might have used him otherwise. So maybe he has ruined his business, but that was done by his own attitude and actions.

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Originally Posted by karin_brenig

I used to be a moderator of three sub-forums/folders on TG.
But I quit that job.

I wasn't being paid for it, and I was starting to hate it.
It is no fun to wade thru hundreds of negative, insulting, or plain dumb posts daily and remove the worst.

I am a positive, outgoing, open and honest person - and reading the dirt on TG sometimes
made me feel bad for the rest of the day.

So I am not a moderator anymore at TG, and I don't post there anymore either.

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I don't like this information. How do we know you are not just an "informant" for TG in new camouflage?

Maybe you should get you a new name before you post more as moderator in this forum?

Sorry, but I trusted you. Now I'm not sure any more.
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I believe Karin.

If she says she quit TG before all these problems started than I believe her.

Sorry I posted this info about you but I was under the impression that you still were with TG.

Changing my name wouldn't change a thing.
I could still be an *informant* for whatever you want to believe.

Also, what problems started when, and caused by whom?

I consider myself an observer, not a promoter.

I am neither *for* nor *against* anything or anybody, because I can never have
all the facts needed to make such a decision.

While I was a moderator at TG I removed foul language, personal insults,
and advertising outside the ads folder.
I did not remove *different opinions*, when expressed in a polite/neutral way - even if no *proof* was given.

If, for example, you wrote *I know the sky is green* - I would let that statement stand.
But if, for example, you wrote
*all you a..holes telling me the sky is NOT green will see it falling onto your brainless heads*
I would edit/delete your post and warn you not to repeat that kind of post.

So - as far as my participation in this (or any other) forum - you are free to suggest I be removed/banned.
Of course the owner/admin of the forum would want to know the reason(s) for your request.

I don't think I will change my forum name though, I can't remember too many details (except my real details).

Karin...

I support you and look forward to the future of this forum!

krisark

Grace, mercy and forgiveness will help a man walk tall - JCM

HI all.

I will be clear. Please do not make an issue out of this. I am 100% that Karin_brenig is on OUR side. And this has to stop right here.

Karin, i have to thank you for a great job you are doing here, and you should know that you have my and the team of epicpay(rolclub.com)'s full support.

I really hope we grow to be a good team.
If any mods or users of this forum will inform other forums about info posted here, then we will have to take actions.

Dr dreem--> Karin is 100% okay. And this is what you should know. I would not have a informant as a moderator here.

Best regards

ADMIN
Epicpay.com(rolclub.com) A positive community.

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Originally Posted by karin_brenig

Changing my name wouldn't change a thing.
I could still be an *informant* for whatever you want to believe.

Also, what problems started when, and caused by whom?

I consider myself an observer, not a promoter.

I am neither *for* nor *against* anything or anybody, because I can never have
all the facts needed to make such a decision.

While I was a moderator at TG I removed foul language, personal insults,
and advertising outside the ads folder.
I did not remove *different opinions*, when expressed in a polite/neutral way - even if no *proof* was given.

If, for example, you wrote *I know the sky is green* - I would let that statement stand.
But if, for example, you wrote
*all you a..holes telling me the sky is NOT green will see it falling onto your brainless heads*
I would edit/delete your post and warn you not to repeat that kind of post.

So - as far as my participation in this (or any other) forum - you are free to suggest I be removed/banned.
Of course the owner/admin of the forum would want to know the reason(s) for your request.

I don't think I will change my forum name though, I can't remember too many details (except my real details).

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Thats OK!

But what I think is interesting is at what time you participated with TG, When you get out and why you went out?

I don't think you are lying, but your interest here now, and your earlier interest with TG, make me interested in where you stand right now - and if we can trust your answer?

Mvh
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Originally Posted by Anonym

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Originally Posted by karin_brenig

Changing my name wouldn't change a thing.
I could still be an *informant* for whatever you want to believe.

Also, what problems started when, and caused by whom?

I consider myself an observer, not a promoter.

I am neither *for* nor *against* anything or anybody, because I can never have
all the facts needed to make such a decision.

While I was a moderator at TG I removed foul language, personal insults,
and advertising outside the ads folder.
I did not remove *different opinions*, when expressed in a polite/neutral way - even if no *proof* was given.

If, for example, you wrote *I know the sky is green* - I would let that statement stand.
But if, for example, you wrote
*all you a..holes telling me the sky is NOT green will see it falling onto your brainless heads*
I would edit/delete your post and warn you not to repeat that kind of post.

So - as far as my participation in this (or any other) forum - you are free to suggest I be removed/banned.
Of course the owner/admin of the forum would want to know the reason(s) for your request.

I don't think I will change my forum name though, I can't remember too many details (except my real details).

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Thats OK!

But what I think is interesting is at what time you participated with TG, When you get out and why you went out?

I don't think you are lying, but your interest here now, and your earlier interest with TG, make me interested in where you stand right now - and if we can trust your answer?

Mvh
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Hi, i will like to answer that if i may. Me and karin had a chat about this, before she was mad to a moderator here.

She is clearly on our side of the fence Mr annonym.
Best regards

Admin

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Originally Posted by Anonym

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Originally Posted by karin_brenig

I am neither *for* nor *against* anything or anybody, because I can never have
all the facts needed to make such a decision.

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Thats OK!

But what I think is interesting is at what time you participated with TG, When you get out and why you went out?

I don't think you are lying, but your interest here now, and your earlier interest with TG, make me interested in where you stand right now - and if we can trust your answer?

Mvh
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I think that Karin answered the question and has Admins' full support..that should be enough. It certainly is for me and I aswell fully support Karin

Imagin this:

If we were to punish people for what they have done before, then no body would have been unpunished. We all are humans, we all can take sides in issues. Many pips investors has joined the Troll's, witch is very sad.

Karin has from a neutral point of view joined up to bee on the positive side. We sure are glad to have you here karin.

Best regards

Admin

Now, I know I don't have to explain anything - and I don't need to be understood by anybody.

But still, I like to communicate. And I like to be thinking positive.

I joined TG early in 2004, because I wanted to learn more about online investments.
It took me a while to realize, that very few people are like myself (honest, open, unbiased, business-minded).
I still believe in communication though, even if some people are of lesser intelligence.
If somebody spits right into my face, I don't answer in the same way.

I was made moderator at TG three months before I joined the investment program.
When the program folder for the investment program at TG was opened
early in 2005, I did NOT receive rights to moderate that folder.

The general *feeling* at TG has gone from friendly, funny, sometimes helpful
to bickering, bashing, insulting, and other ugly things.
Not just in the investment program folders, but all over the place.

People were starting to threaten me (and other moderators) by PM or even openly, in forum posts.
Which is why I decided to quit that job and leave that forum.

As far as *taking sides* - I try not to do that.
I don't want to be anybody's judge.

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Originally Posted by karin_brenig

I was made moderator at TG three months before I joined the investment program.
When the program folder for the investment program at TG was opened
early in 2005, I did NOT receive rights to moderate that folder.

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I'm happy to hear that. Your words i this post put this case to rest. I tro you joined TG when you already was a pipsmember.

Sorry for my doubt in you!

mvh
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PS: Sorry for my bad english... :)

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Originally Posted by admin

Dr dreem--> Karin is 100% okay. And this is what you should know. I would not have a informant as a moderator here.

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I have never said or ment anything about Karin. Don't know why you address this one to me.

Peace & love!

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Originally Posted by dr_dream

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Originally Posted by admin

Dr dreem--> Karin is 100% okay. And this is what you should know. I would not have a informant as a moderator here.

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I have never said or ment anything about Karin. Don't know why you address this one to me.

Peace & love!

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Hi Dr_dreem

I am sorry, i was acctually going to write to Anonym, but i somehow mixed it up with your name. :-), that was not intensional. I am sorry for that.

Best regards

Admin

Once again welcome aboard Karin!

krisark

Grace, mercy and forgiveness will help a man walk tall - JCM

He is the adbites guy and he needs to be in a straight jacket :shock:

Hi,

I didn't post very often in the program forum, but I read a LOT, and I mean a LOT! I have read many of Karin's posts over there and have absolutely no doubt in my mind that Karin belongs here 100%.

Best regards
Wannabe

About those websites bashing PxPx, they lose credibility with me because they have ulterior motives and that is to promote their own business. The have the nerve to say things to the effect of: that scam failed, so now just move on to the next scam. I have not passed judgment on PxPx at this point, and I will not go by the judgment of others.

Also, they are so unprofessional when they talk about PxPx. For instance, they quote something out of context. In general I just see them as childish and in great need of professional help. They make me sad.

If the program were to go down, is it really going to do a person any good to become bitter and spend the rest of their life poisoning others? I don't think so.



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Hi Karin
You have my vote of confidence. I remember you at the shared profit/wellsprings forum and you always had great posts then and you were also helpful with me at one time when I pm'd you.

Guys, Karin is the real thing. Genuine people.

Anyways, nice to have this forum, thanks Admin and everyone.

Loki

Well.. being a pioneer and all Karen is the one I trust the most, period.

There is no person in the HIYP world like Karen, she is absolutely the most honest person you can ever expect to meet.

Though I have never had the honor of meeting Karen face to face I have witnessed and followed her character on the net for at least the last two years.

She is simply spot on!


By accepting her we will solve all our problems, period. Yes!

Well, thanks, I feel slightly flattered.

While I can assure you I'm always honest with people,
I wouldn't be sure about *solving all your problems*.
I'm no fortune teller and I can't do miracles.

It is not obligated of you to present your thoughts and views just so it could clear some minds attributing wishful doubts however, with your disclosures made, I welcome you Karin all the same, despite not knowing you in any other way prior to joining PIPS a year back.

It is good to have someone who stands firm and consistant on one's ideal principles rather than face and deal with a wavering character that sways with good weather only...! :lol:

Two living adversary to each other can be actually the best of partners on a clearcut business level as both know precisely where each other stands... but shady figures that smiles and claims to be friendly associates...these I'd rather avoid, they are not fun nor can be trusted! :wink:

YB.

HI.

As there is no leak, and all has been explained well by our admin, i am locking this thread, and will remove it later.

BB
moderator