Bryan Marsden "innocent Of All Charges"???

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12-11-2006, 11:09 PM
billyjoe

interesting discussion
20-11-2006, 03:11 AM
boatman

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Originally Posted by the_truth

boatman!...I agree, but I guess it depends on how you define positiveness!

For the pro-PIPSters it is about kissing Bryans feet and keep the faith that he will bring PIPS back again to us!....to make us millionaires and provide financial freedom to all of us before the end of 2006, and finally to continue to support the less fortunate people in the world!....

For those that have a more realistic, down-to-earth attitude and an ocean of experience with the kind of stories described above;... and my guess is that they have come across these programs (get rich quickly) several times before;....the positiveness in these peoples mind must be to bring those members out of this "golden dream world", and finally open their eyes so that they shall be able to see again!...
Sometimes it hurts to wake up and realize that people are able to cheat us with their friendliness, their charming convictions and their golden promises!
What can we learn from these experiences?
To me it has been a very interesting and wortwhile experience!...since it was my very first and hopefully last investment in an Internet (HYIP) financial program.

I am trying hard to search for a cause, looking for excuses, and telling myself that there must be something positive to say about the sad saga of PIPS.

To tell you the truth, I find it hard to find something positive to say, except for some of the new friends that I have met. What troubles me is that so many innocent members, unprofessional investors, less fortunate members with limited financial resources, and least but not last that so many people invested more than they could afford to lose!....should I be proud and postitve about knowing that so many PIPS members are most likely living a miserable life because of PIPS?...sorry boatman!...I can not!

I believe it is naive of you to think that way, and that you on a public forum allow yourself to nearly demand that members shall think positively!...except for situations that do not have anything to do with PIPS. I guess we all can find someting positive to say about our lives, our friends and our love ones, but then I would go somewhere else to talk about it!

Personally I am one of the fortunate members that is living a healthy life out of the Internet business, and I can easily say that my investment in PIPS was only an experiment and a hell of an interesting experience. The sad part is that PIPS most likely created many more casulties than any other investment program. Those that invest in a professional program can normally afford to lose a big chunk of their wealth!...unfortunately from what I could read from the PIPS forum, that was not the case.
I tried to warn members on the PIPS forum not to invest heavily in PIPS, and not let their money accumulate on their account, but unfortunately the cheerleaders in PIPS were able to convince the members otherwise!

Finally the positive thing to say here is that for the first time in 3-4 years, we will all soon know the truth!...and I doubt it is going to be a bright a cheerful reading!

hine

Hine... I don't disagree with you, but those who for what ever there reasons wanted a place to say and hear others of like minds.
I think they are wrong, I think you are right but they are asking simply for a forum , a thread where you and I are not there.
I don't agree with them and will say so, but I can also repect that they have a thread of their own..
20-11-2006, 04:04 AM
LynnRE

They do have a thread of their own. In fact they have a super secret forum, that really isn't that secret, where they can praise BM and belittle all of us to their heart's content. In fact, they have a thread dedicated to just little ole me. Kind of nice to know they think so highly of you they devote an entire thread in your honor. Of course they won't let me respond as that would be too dificult for them to handle. To hear them tell it, I am the one who brought down PIPS, I am the destroyer of hope and dreams, I am negative, and of course I am evil all because I dared to quote BM verbatim showing how he talked out of both sides of his mouth at the same time.

I don't understand why they feel they have to have their own thread here. They can post here any time, and they can at AusPips, but they all ran away because I was posting there. That's why the secret forum was set up in the first place. They didn't like that "naysayers" were allowed to post on AusPips and challenge them. The real truth is that they don't like it that they cannot dispute anything posted by the "naysayers" with any facts of their own. When challenged to "support" their statements, all we get are ramblings of how we don't understand PIPS or BM's vision.
20-11-2006, 05:14 AM
boatman

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Originally Posted by LynnRE

They do have a thread of their own. In fact they have a super secret forum, that really isn't that secret, where they can praise BM and belittle all of us to their heart's content. In fact, they have a thread dedicated to just little ole me. Kind of nice to know they think so highly of you they devote an entire thread in your honor. Of course they won't let me respond as that would be too dificult for them to handle. To hear them tell it, I am the one who brought down PIPS, I am the destroyer of hope and dreams, I am negative, and of course I am evil all because I dared to quote BM verbatim showing how he talked out of both sides of his mouth at the same time.

I don't understand why they feel they have to have their own thread here. They can post here any time, and they can at AusPips, but they all ran away because I was posting there. That's why the secret forum was set up in the first place. They didn't like that "naysayers" were allowed to post on AusPips and challenge them. The real truth is that they don't like it that they cannot dispute anything posted by the "naysayers" with any facts of their own. When challenged to "support" their statements, all we get are ramblings of how we don't understand PIPS or BM's vision.

Yes that is true, I am probably being to generous thinking we are all victims. But, really they would not tolerate any other point of view, no matter how truthful, how honest, if you said anything other than BM is God and that they( the devoted) will be first to be paid at the money trough.
20-11-2006, 07:05 AM
Dreamer

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Originally Posted by boatman

Yes that is true, I am probably being to generous thinking we are all victims. But, really they would not tolerate any other point of view, no matter how truthful, how honest, if you said anything other than BM is God and that they( the devoted) will be first to be paid at the money trough.

That was always the problem on the old pips forum.Ask a vaguely anti pips question and it was deleted immediately by the mods.

With hindsight,the cheerleaders are more responsible for this mess than they are given credit for.
20-11-2006, 10:23 AM
nej

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Originally Posted by LynnRE

They do have a thread of their own. In fact they have a super secret forum, that really isn't that secret, where they can praise BM and belittle all of us to their heart's content. In fact, they have a thread dedicated to just little ole me. Kind of nice to know they think so highly of you they devote an entire thread in your honor. Of course they won't let me respond as that would be too dificult for them to handle. To hear them tell it, I am the one who brought down PIPS, I am the destroyer of hope and dreams, I am negative, and of course I am evil all because I dared to quote BM verbatim showing how he talked out of both sides of his mouth at the same time.

I don't understand why they feel they have to have their own thread here. They can post here any time, and they can at AusPips, but they all ran away because I was posting there. That's why the secret forum was set up in the first place. They didn't like that "naysayers" were allowed to post on AusPips and challenge them. The real truth is that they don't like it that they cannot dispute anything posted by the "naysayers" with any facts of their own. When challenged to "support" their statements, all we get are ramblings of how we don't understand PIPS or BM's vision.

Nice post and so true. I'd like the URL of this secret forum to go and have a little nosy around, if you don't mind. Could be interesting. PM me if you don't want to post it publicly.
20-11-2006, 11:01 AM
Dreamer

For those interested in facts, its only 4 days to the next "mention" :cheers:
20-11-2006, 01:37 PM
Offshore-Wealth.com

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Originally Posted by LynnRE

They do have a thread of their own. In fact they have a super secret forum, that really isn't that secret, where they can praise BM and belittle all of us to their heart's content. In fact, they have a thread dedicated to just little ole me. Kind of nice to know they think so highly of you they devote an entire thread in your honor. Of course they won't let me respond as that would be too dificult for them to handle. To hear them tell it, I am the one who brought down PIPS, I am the destroyer of hope and dreams, I am negative, and of course I am evil all because I dared to quote BM verbatim showing how he talked out of both sides of his mouth at the same time.

I don't understand why they feel they have to have their own thread here. They can post here any time, and they can at AusPips, but they all ran away because I was posting there. That's why the secret forum was set up in the first place. They didn't like that "naysayers" were allowed to post on AusPips and challenge them. The real truth is that they don't like it that they cannot dispute anything posted by the "naysayers" with any facts of their own. When challenged to "support" their statements, all we get are ramblings of how we don't understand PIPS or BM's vision.

Agreed,

There are more than enough forums where people with the same positive outlook can gather and stroke themselves and ignore reality, but this should not be one of them. I have believed in the good, bad and ugly of life, and the reality is, this is what life is all about. Who could be crazy enough to think you can insulate yourself from reality just by surrounding yourself with nothing but positive believers is only kidding themselves, and this is what we have here.

What I do find strange is how these couple hundred people out of a couple hundred thousand can still believe anything Bryan says. It is so obvious he is a confirmed pathological liar, and has been from the very start, yet this is ignored, or worse, excused. Free and open opinions are what I have always beleived in, and always will. If those here who want only a positive forum catagory, then you are living in fantasyland, a dream world, for there is no such place on this planet unless you visit Disneyland. I hear Bryan and Sharon will be visiting Daffy Duck and Goofy about a new HYIP, so get in early.

Good luck to all, Mike
20-11-2006, 02:33 PM
chin-lee

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Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com

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What I do find strange is how these couple hundred people out of a couple hundred thousand can still believe anything Bryan says.

This is were you are totally wrong. Numbers are reversed as you stated. It's few hundred thousand Pro and only couple hundred Against.

Time will tell truth and real facts.

真相来临
20-11-2006, 03:33 PM
Dreamer

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Originally Posted by chin-lee

This is were you are totally wrong. Numbers are reversed as you stated. It's few hundred thousand Pro and only couple hundred Against.

Time will tell truth and real facts.

真相来临

A few hundred thousand pro pips? :rofl: Where on earth did you conjure that figure up from?:toofunny:

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