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    Quote Originally Posted by nej View Post
    To be fair, people did get money in that time. I got a WD in April '05, only 4 months before BNM moved in.
    I put in several deposits between dec04 - mar05. It could be my money!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebat$ View Post
    I put in several deposits between dec04 - mar05. It could be my money!!!

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    Why did you do that? Just wondering, thought most had stopped when withdrawals stopped...I was waiting until withdrwals started again which of course never happened..
    Not being critical, just trying to understand..I was trying to get as much out and withdrawn from picpay by then, which of course didn't matter either none of my withdrawals were honored after dec.
    Must suck to know that as you made these deposits Bryan was transferring Pic Pay monies to his and Sharon personal accounts at the same time.

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    Boatman my friend,

    I was introduced to PIPS in DEC 04. The person who introduced me knew but still sponsored me. I couldn't join if I wasn't. That was what she must have believed. So the person ask us to put all that we have. Even dip from my bro college fund, my life insurance etc.

    That time, I was a real greenhorn but one year of HYIPs and such make me a seasoned veteran.

    Hope you see now.

    theBat$ "suck" doesn't begin to describe it...... its the terrible feeling like you get kicked in the nuts?
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    I did the same as theBat$, thinking that to get the "numbers on a screen," of Pips into Picpay would possibly come under the so-called payment processor protections we were influenced to think were something substantial. My last sucessful withdrawal took place on 2, Dec. 2004 e.v. and all other ones past that date were never processed. Move on to about July of 2005 e.v., and I posted on the msyterious withdrawals that were taking place way back while the Pips forum was still active, learning what I did from a couple of Picpay employees. It was they who told me that Bryan had let them and everybody down and that there were some crooked things going on with certain other Picpay employees and Bryan, but they never went into further detail. However, I definitely learned that funds were being transferred out of Picpay as late as August of 2005 e.v.; to who, I had no idea except for the occurrence of three of my accounts being hijacked by certain individuals, against whom those same Picpay employees worked successfully to stop and correct; to no avail, perhaps, but as far as "numbers on a screen," they were corrected. All this is now evidently neither here nor there, as it were, but it remains of interest to me as a back-drop to BNM's investigation. We'll see what we'll see as the investigation enters trial and comes to some kind of determination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebat$ View Post
    Boatman my friend,

    I was introduced to PIPS in DEC 04. The person who introduced me knew but still sponsored me. I couldn't join if I wasn't. That was what she must have believed. So the person ask us to put all that we have. Even dip from my bro college fund, my life insurance etc.

    That time, I was a real greenhorn but one year of HYIPs and such make me a seasoned veteran.

    Hope you see now.

    theBat$ "suck" doesn't begin to describe it...... its the terrible feeling like you get kicked in the nuts?
    Wow...that is worse than just, it sucks. Is your friend still a friend? She advised you to gamble it all? Guess it could of happened to any of us, I just thank god I never told anyone or tried to convince anyone about Pips. I deceided i would just give them money if it ever came, it didn't.....Alot of people must of been ostracized from family or friends after the fall because people believed in Bryan and wanted to help their friends and thus shared this, "great" opportunity.
    Is there really a penalty bad enough or long enough for what Bryan did to so many, and the way he did it, ruining lives destroying dreams.....simply because he wanted money and didn't care how it was earned...

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    theBat$: Was wondering if the Berita Harian had an English version online? If so, could you provide the link? It would be greatly appreciated. If not, we will just rely on your expert translation for all of us English speakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatman View Post
    Wow...that is worse than just, it sucks. Is your friend still a friend? She advised you to gamble it all? Guess it could of happened to any of us, I just thank god I never told anyone or tried to convince anyone about Pips. I deceided i would just give them money if it ever came, it didn't.....Alot of people must of been ostracized from family or friends after the fall because people believed in Bryan and wanted to help their friends and thus shared this, "great" opportunity.
    Is there really a penalty bad enough or long enough for what Bryan did to so many, and the way he did it, ruining lives destroying dreams.....simply because he wanted money and didn't care how it was earned...
    She is not very popular in the household, especially after she called us names when we told her about Bryan being in jail and little to no possibility of PIPS coming back. My mother has forgiven her though.

    Quote Originally Posted by LynnRE View Post
    theBat$: Was wondering if the Berita Harian had an English version online? If so, could you provide the link? It would be greatly appreciated. If not, we will just rely on your expert translation for all of us English speakers.
    I will always do my best to keep the members informed because we are in the same predicament but more so because we are RolClub members and friends. To reply your question, Berita Harian does not have an English site but its sister paper the New Straits Times carries identical news in English. Currently there are more sensational news in Malaysia that's why I guess none of the English dailies picked up on BM's hearing. I will PM you with the link.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thelema View Post
    I did the same as theBat$, thinking that to get the "numbers on a screen," of Pips into Picpay would possibly come under the so-called payment processor protections we were influenced to think were something substantial. My last sucessful withdrawal took place on 2, Dec. 2004 e.v. and all other ones past that date were never processed. Move on to about July of 2005 e.v., and I posted on the msyterious withdrawals that were taking place way back while the Pips forum was still active, learning what I did from a couple of Picpay employees. It was they who told me that Bryan had let them and everybody down and that there were some crooked things going on with certain other Picpay employees and Bryan, but they never went into further detail. However, I definitely learned that funds were being transferred out of Picpay as late as August of 2005 e.v.; to who, I had no idea except for the occurrence of three of my accounts being hijacked by certain individuals, against whom those same Picpay employees worked successfully to stop and correct; to no avail, perhaps, but as far as "numbers on a screen," they were corrected. All this is now evidently neither here nor there, as it were, but it remains of interest to me as a back-drop to BNM's investigation. We'll see what we'll see as the investigation enters trial and comes to some kind of determination.

    Best regards,

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    I have only begun to send in for a w/d in '05. I got nothing. Lost everything. Now I am trying my best to work for a living. Its hard because I have to start from bottom again. That an I am in a new state (Penang) now, so all my credibillity is worth zero. Anyways, I bear no grudge against anyone who got their w/d. Better I say good for you. As for BM, I'll let it be for now and let another poor Xmas pass. At least I an with my family. I am rich for having them and you all.

    Merry Xmas and Happy Holidays!

    theBat$ - I think I'll put up a xmas tree in my website.

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    Pips has hurt a lot of people and not just in the pocket.It has created many a disagreement in family circles too.

    Hopefully, most will have learnt lessons from pips.For me personally it's, "No more recruiting" that's the quickest way to lose friends! lol

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    I have a good question.

    After all these months in waiting for conclusion of Pips situation saga , and all forums that use to be friendly place to get together and get information like this place, turning sour and negative with a lot of hate, I wonder were will Bryan post his update? I am sure that will not be TG, Roll club, Aussie and few more, due a lot attack on him.

    Question is were we will get information and updates?
    Think about it, most % of members are here in reference to other forums, and many are not posting regularly, just reading. I feel bad that many would be left out from updates.

    Only way I would think of it is if he uses e-mails as way of communication. I hope members did not change their e-mails otherwise will be out of contact.

    Just something to think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    Pips has hurt a lot of people and not just in the pocket.It has created many a disagreement in family circles too.

    Hopefully, most will have learnt lessons from pips.For me personally it's, "No more recruiting" that's the quickest way to lose friends! lol
    ....but be prepared to face the enemy trollers, if you do recruit,

    with the uphill stride by recruiting for the FFL....

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