Thread: is this it?

hi all

its been a while.

i dont know what to believe anymore after reading so many threads and not one is a positive feedback we pipsters so readily crave for.

i used to be on all of the time checking for any news on the pips saga.
now its every so often.
other people say its over finished get on with your lives whilst the others (myself included) hope pips resurface.

the question i would like an answer to is

"is pips finished and will we ever see our investment money again"

regards

ronnieollie

94% of people SAY it will be back, but if BM suddenly posted that he is accepting new deposits/donations I doubt they would put their money where their mouth is :-)

http://www.rolclub.com/pips-program-...ot-return.html

The situation has been the same for over 1½ years, some (a.k.a. the trolls) would like to get their money out but BM refuses to pay up.

Hi ronnieollie,

As much as I wish, as well as others wish, only one person can express
their true answer.
SO FAR..............

Originally Posted by WerkostoGuru

(...) but BM refuses to pay up.

Wouldn't it be more correct to state "I think that ..."? Please take some distance from your own beliefs and keep it to the most reliable info, certainly when informing a member who isn't up to date and wants to catch up. Thank you...

As far as I know, Bryan wanting to pay is not the main issue at this moment. An investigation going on at BNM (*) is... and it's a wait and see game for the results, which may take still quite a while.
Take care,
Hasse

(*)
http://www.rolclub.com/pips-program-...officer-7.html
http://www.rolclub.com/pips-program-...oint-view.html

Originally Posted by Hasse

Bryan wanting to pay is not the main issue at this moment. An investigation going on at BNM (*) is...

I thought there is an investigation because BM refused to pay up from 2005 onwards (the investigation started much later in 2005)... Is there a different calendar on your planet (sorry, no pun intended)?

If someone just wants their money back then what difference does the investigation make for them? Bank Negara will not pay any refunds out of their own pocket. The investigation _might_ eventually reveal when/how/why BM ran with the money.

Let's ask BM, he could clear this up in one post by stating why he stopped paying, how much money "there" is and where is it now. Oh, I forgot - he ran from this forum too!

All of these po... programs are just about the money and anyone who wants to know the truth can find out by making a withdrawal and in three days (old TOS if I remember correctly) they will know.

WerkostoGuru you are absolutely right.
Quote:"I thought there is an investigation because BM refused to pay up from 2005 onwards"

Of course. BM refused to pay to us and to merchants and merchants first alarmed BN because they suspected very bog fraud: e-currency company without cash. They sold a lot of items, transactions went complete, but Bryan for long months refused to pay.
First it was his invention that people can use PicPay to but merchandise etc in case they cannot withdraw funds, and efter some time refused to pay to merchants as always said he encountered new problems. Sure we are used to them.
Please note Gary and members of his staff often said withdrawals will be processed very soon and thenBryan appeared who said new problems appeared.
I will tell you something more: faulty are members of Hawaii convention too! At this moment we all received a lot of red alerts and warnings that something is wrong, but NO ONE AT HAWAII CONVENTION ASKED BRYAN ANY IMPORTANT HARD QUESTSION!!! Nobody!

Originally Posted by WerkostoGuru

94% of people SAY it will be back,

Where on earth did you get THAT figure?? I would guess well over 50% do NOT think it will be back, and probably many more than that. But I'm just speculating, you present yours as if it is a fact...interesting.

Originally Posted by ajk64

Where on earth did you get THAT figure?? I would guess well over 50% do NOT think it will be back, and probably many more than that. But I'm just speculating, you present yours as if it is a fact...interesting.

Interesting point.It all depends where you get your opinions from.This was a pro PIPS forum, so you would get a positive response.At TG it would be a negative response.In any event,there is only a fraction of the 150000 membership on these forums, but i would bet that overall, most members have given up on a comeback.

Originally Posted by ajk64

Where on earth did you get THAT figure?? I would guess well over 50% do NOT think it will be back, and probably many more than that. But I'm just speculating, you present yours as if it is a fact...interesting.

http://www.rolclub.com/pips-program-...ot-return.html

-So what do you think, pips will return or pips will not return?
-I think Pips WILL return 265
-I think pips will not return 16

This is not a fact in your opinion? In my previous post I pointed out that this is what people SAY they think, I would also guess that most do not THINK it will be back :-) There is no way of knowing what everyone thinks but this is the only statistic we have on the subject (poll from 20.6. to 18.8.).

i would like pips to return.even if its to get what we have have invested in and the monies on hold.(which is £25000 uk pounds)
to me this has gone on for far too long.

its frustrating because when i joined i raved on to a few friends on how good this is and how much money we would be making.

now ive got "we told you so" by quite a few people. pretty embarassing.

cheers for your replies