Anyone know why DBR have gone off the air?
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Anyone know why DBR have gone off the air?
Where is the thread? I have had a look and am not able to find it.
patellarol
Yes dbr has gone off air as it were. Shana and terry have resigned there positions as to limit there liability in the court proceedings.Eric /thumper has been kinda left out there to hang in the wind by himself facing humungous fines and possible jail time. That being said according to Thumper when told by gary nichol to stop the pool, he did and turned the 6.2 million ove to Picpay which was reportedly in turn supposed to refund. At this time the 6.2 is supposedly frozen with bon and until the situation is resolved with BM it will stay there. If a solution,is not forthcoming,Thumper, is prepared to mount a massive lawsuit to get all of our money back.So there you go Hope I have been helpful
Benzboy
Thank you Benzboy. That was clear and informative....:smiley:
So can anyone tell me where the other thread is please?
I thought the money went into pips2% as it was going to be distributed I think it was Jan for the 1st pmt from the Interest. The Principal was going to go into the pool before that.
I am not sure what you mean by "the other thread", but I will have a new look around later today if noone beats me to finding it.....:smile:Quote:
Originally Posted by georgette
There is a mention of Lawsuit, who does Thumper, plan to sue? Everyone seems to forget this is International Law. Just for a International Lawyer to even look at the case will be massive and costly. It will be a long road.
Good Luck
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:21 am Post subject: A message from Thumper re DBR
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The recipient of this email has given me post a copy here. I trust people will read it thoroughly and understand what Thumper is doing.
Happy New Year to all!!!
May the best of 2005 be your worst for 2006.
I will ask a few favors through the course of this e-mail and the first of these will be to work together with those you know participated in the DBR investment club while we were still accepting members. Please pass this e-mail around to other DBR members you have stayed in contact with. I don’t have access to all the resources that I had one year ago, unfortunately, and am hoping to update my files with participants address information in preparation for return of DBR funds. If it becomes possible to send a check back to each participant for their full refund, I would like to be prepared with a streamlined process of doing just that.
Please reply to this e-mail address with your name (and other names if you were managing accounts for others), transaction ID(s), DBR nickname(s) and your address. If you are likely to move in the next few months, please let me know that as well. Please include any information that you know that we had on file while we were still taking information on the website. Like I said, I don’t have all the resources that I had before and will be processing these by hand in preparation for the refund process. If you have set up some sort of legal structure and would rather have the refund sent to that LLC, company, corporation, trust or whatever, please include that information as well.
It’s been quite a while since we’ve had any communication since there has been nothing to communicate. Everyone already knows that DBR has been stuck in the water since everything had been sent to PIPS and PicPay. The Bank Negara took possession of all the PIPS-related companies’ computer equipment. Money in most or all of the bank and trading accounts has been frozen and everyone who knows anything has been very tight lipped for good reason.
There are several reasons for this “loose lips sink ships” atmosphere and almost all of them are legal. There are other reasons since PIPS probably would not be in the position they are in if people could have just trusted Bryan from the beginning. Every time Bryan announced a new business relationship with a bank, debit card provider or whatever, that company would be swamped with incoming calls from PIPS members and it caused problems for PIPS every single time.
DBR is also currently in the middle of legal investigation and that’s about all that I can say. I will be able to give more information once the entire problem is resolved. A quick glimpse of our situation can be found here:
http://www.iid.state.ia.us/docs/press092105.pdf
I’m not especially proud of it, but I’m a big believer in the truth and this is what it is. Unfortunately, all of this originated from a sincere desire to help other people. Terry and Shana have both resigned from DBR and although we were not able to see the program through to a successful conclusion, please know through me that their heart was in the right place and that they continue to do work for others. Please keep them in your thoughts and prayers though all of this.
Bryan has recently announced the return of PIPS on the Rol Club forums and anyone who has not been keeping track of that information can find it here:
http://www.rolclub.com/forumdisplay.php?f=79 or http://www.rolclub.com
He is coming back with PIPS Aid and the lotto programs first, since these were never challenged by any regulating authority and, at least according to Bryan, this much is able to come back with no problems from any agency world-wide. It is advisable to check the governing laws where you live as these lotto’s are still considered gambling and are not legal in every state, country, territory or jurisdiction. There is one unconfirmed rumor that most of PIPS will be back up in the coming week.
Bryan is giving hints that there may soon be other programs coming back, but I will let you follow that on his Rol club forum and don’t have any inside information as to what that might include. Bryan has also stated on the Rol club forums that the DBR refunds are not his responsibility and what he is talking about is the fact that DBR is and always was a separate entity and he doesn’t have any control of DBR as a company. While he has no control of DBR as a company, all DBR funds are frozen with his and when I have confirmed that he has control of the funds, I will go to Malaysia and arrange for the refund account. While I have no direct communication with Bryan at this point, Gary Nichols, while still General Manager of PIPS, made a commitment, on behalf of PIPS to give us back the funds and assist with the refund process. Even though Gary is no longer with PIPS, this is a binding, legal contract and I believe Gary will cooperate with us in court, if necessary, in recouping those funds. I hope that it does not come to that, but I’m letting you know that there is no length that I won’t go to ensure everyone get their refund.
What is interesting, especially for DBR members, is that Bryan is allowing other gateways. Since we don’t know where PicPay stands or whether or not it will come back, we can at least hope that alternate payment gateways will remain an option for us in addition to PicPay if and when it does return. Both have debit cards and after I’ve tested mine to my satisfaction, I am thinking that this might be an option for making DBR refunds when that becomes possible. I would like feedback on this option if anyone cares to offer it.
These new payment gateways are free to sign up for and can be found at:
UniClear: https://uniclear.com/ssl/signup/signup.php
and
GreenZap: http://www.greenzap.com/
I understand that if you bank with Wachovia bank, you might not want to choose Uniclear as there have been some problems with a fraudster using that gateway and they have apparently (temporarily?) frozen all dealings between those two institutions. Greenzap may be the best option for most and, at least for a limited time, offers $50 free “web cash” for signing up. For more information on that program, please take a look at their website: www.greenzap.com/
Just about everyone that I know of who were members of PIPS had a pretty rough year last year. Some of us, myself included, had put too many eggs in that one basket and one of my New Years resolutions is to become much more diversified. I would ask, as a third favor, that you include in your e-mails to me information about programs that you are having success with. I am not promising that I will participate since there may be others who send the same information, but I would like to hear about it. If I hear about something good and you would like to be included in that information, please let me know and I will try to keep you informed as well.
I have had some who have asked if they can help me with my legal expenses and to provide the necessary information. With the legal costs growing, I don’t have much choice but to accept any contributions with humble appreciation. I can not guarantee repayment of these contributions anytime soon, but will continue to try as best I can to make it worthwhile to those who have. A friend of mine is taking this collection at his PayPal account: [email protected]. It will ask for that e-mail address if you log into http://www.paypal.com.
I asked earlier that everyone send me details of their account and their address in preparation for refunds. If you do make a donation to help me with my legal expenses, please include that information in that e-mail. All of this will help me prepare, sort and prioritize the refund process. Through the miracle of mail merge, I hope to have a file prepared to print out envelopes and letters pre-addressed.
v/r
Thumper
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Originally Posted by newlife
Hey newlife
Is this email suppose to be posted in a public forum? I dont know if this is what Eric wanted. Just my take on it......
I had permission from the person who received this email to post it on Auspips. Since then I have been in contact with Eric and he is well aware of it being on that forum.
I do ask that you treat this email with the respect it deserves, whilst I was not a participant of DBR you can see that Eric is clearly trying to organise some form of resolution for the DBR members.
best regards
mez
Shall I delete the mail, Mezzy?Quote:
Originally Posted by mezzy
I am sorry Mezzy if I did something wrong. Maybe I should ask you first, but my intentions was as Eric posted, to help DBR members get updates.
Good post! To what Email address should we send the information you have requested?
My name is ********************************
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I Have been a member of Reality Millions,now renamed as Divinus Opulentia Internation. I joined 11 1/2 months ago with $2,170 and today my balance is $27,650, almost a fourteen fold return!
The gentleman that administers the program is called Midas. He reminds me a great deal of Bryan. He runs a tight ship. The program is now closed to new membership until Jan 31,2006. At this time all the new programming is finished and the membership purged of inactives and people who could not verified themselves, (passport, drivers license, utility bills etc.).
Please contact me if I can be of assistance.
Good luck with the DBR problems.
Garry Noah
Shell, please contact Mezzy and see if we can provide Eric e-mail for his contact.
I do not like see people posting personal information on public forum.
They should do it privately with DBR.
Thanks
Balboa is only advertising his program, he has no intention of contacting Eric. He just wants to promote his program. I will delete it in a while.....Quote:
Originally Posted by newlife
If anyone who participated in DBR would like to send me their details but hasn't received that e-mail yet, please send to:
[email protected]
Like I said in that e-mail, I don't have access to anything fancy anymore, so I am processing each by hand. It will take a while so please be patient if you don't get a reply from me anytime soon.
Those who participated through SGA should also send me their details. I will process these as well.
v/r
Thumper
I am still having trouble with the DBR e-mail server, so I have set up the following e-mail address for people who participated through DBR and SGA. If you received an "undeliverable" message or haven't e-mailed your details yet, please e-mail me at:
[email protected]
Thank you very much.
v/r
Thumper
eric also mentioned a man, keith norby who will get your dbr money back through forex for 250.......you will get yoru 250 back in 50 days,,,then in 8-19 months you will get your dbr funds back..whether it is 1K or 5k....I have already done this....it will help thumper. the company is claled get er done....they also get rid of debts too..mortgages, car payments...credit cards..... he had this in the post you read here,,,but that info was left out....it was in full on the ausie forum....
so whats the catch right now? No news?
Thumper message:Quote:
Originally Posted by newlife
Do I get you right that I have to send you by mail my account number so you can help me get access to my pipsloan and account. Please answer clearly, because I don´t trust many of the people of this site. So many romers going on so it´s quite difficult to know what is real or not. Thankful for your reply
Marie
Thumper message:Quote:
Originally Posted by newlife
Do I get you right that I have to send you by mail my account number so you can help me get access to my pipsloan and account. Please answer clearly, because I don´t trust many of the people of this site. So many romers going on so it´s quite difficult to know what is real or not. Thankful for your reply
Marie
:new: :ro_emote: :thumbsup: :leader: Maybe anyone can help, we keep to stuck together without any teardropping trust. Right and straight what we shall do, Of course no one is going to give out codes etc. State what information we need to forward.
Thanks!
Thumber please let us know your mailadress so we can go on.
:beer: :cheers: :party:Quote:
Originally Posted by nallegirl
That post from Thumper was JAN 2005.PICPAY is shut and thats where the money is. Nobody has any access to funds at all.
Thumper is doing fairly well... and is also struggling again with health issues... we have helped him into a new business and will be glad to place you in his organization if you wish to join...PM or email us.... no more public info here...
If anyone has any true information to the PIPS and DBR drama, would they please post so we little folks in the matter can get some clarification. Thanks and God-Bless
Any new topic, unrelated to the PIPs & Bryan Marsden trial will have to be created & posted in the correct Forum in ROLClub.
I am closing this thread and all that are related to the Marsdens/PIPS/Hallotto disguise deceit. For returning members wanting to trace or track related posts concerning the current development some call it a stupid saga, a farce and even a silly & endless waste of time, well whatever anyone feels opinionated by their individual viewpoints or argument, the Trial on the Marsdens is NOT over and far from closure hence, a main sticky thread will cater to that attention
at this link>>>:
Any further new threads open just for the sake of an individual's ignorance to the progress surrounding the Marsdens or the Trial or anything else on PIPS or PicPay and all the parties involved will find their newly created thread deleted. Issues related to the past and further back in the past, will be posted in the above thread, click that and stay there with your submitted posts please. This is a start of some pruning and spring cleaning on the PIPS related Forum.