Thread: Important Verification Notice

Closure and ceasing sign-ups through RC Cycler Team

In light of the latest events surrounding the displeasure that RC has uncovered, Admin, myself and Neno have decided to stop the Cycler program within our Forum.

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It is a painful decision and as it now stands.... the path leading to this as a consequence of what has been openly admitted, Barry has admitted being Bryan Marsden.

To this effect, Admin of RC has requested that we halt further support and cease any link with BM's initiatives on whatever programs he launches which would implicxate ROLClub in any future and unnecessary leagl entanglement, should RC, after discovering the identity of Barry to be Bryan Mardsden, and be considered to be a proponent in any of BM's program initiatives.


For this, we cannot afford to be seen and viewed as a co-operating net operator unless we deliberately continue from hereon once this has been established.

To allow members to absorb this shock and surprise on this revelation and decision, I shall leave the thread open until Thursday 17th, 2006 at midnite.

This will allow ANYONE, who wishes to continue to sign up for the Cycler 10by5, may do so at the 10 by 5 Cycler Humanitarian Aid Program website.

We shall not be participating nor be purseuing any more from this Forum in ROLClub.

I wish you all, together with Neno and on behalf of ROLClub..the best in your faith in the Cycler so long as it takes to survive... I wish you all the best as well. It is a choice you have to decide for yourself but we shall not encourage nor deny you this right of your liberty to make the choice you are responsible by your decision.

We have and we will, not be implicated by ANY Finanacial Institution or Govt Body to charge us after this date, because we have only just realised that we allowed BM to pursue a program within our Forum without prior knowledge of his commitmentments placed elsewhere which bears a conflict of interest to ROLClub, we will not allow that opportunity to take us down that path.

NO MORE SIGN UPS through ROLClub Cycler Team members on this Forum as of Aug. 16th, 2006.


This thread will be closed and as of Friday 18th, 2006, it shall be removed.

YB.

Co-Admin, ROLClub.com

Cycler closure in RC

Hi Everyone,

It really sickens me to have to do this, but due to some unscrupulous people hacking the scripts and signing up Fast Track accounts without making payment, we need to re-verify all accounts.

We have put a link in the Members area of the site to verify your payment transaction id. Click the link then select the payment processor you used to signup with and enter the transaction id of the payment you made.

The verification excercise will continue for 2 weeks after which time any unverified accounts will be deleted from the system.

We currently estimate that there are more than 100 invalid accounts which amounts to $5000+ that has basically been stolen from 10 by 5 and the humanitarian aid funds. Although this has resulted in a reduction in funds it does not affect 10 by 5 ability to continue paying, we are still in good shape and growing.

It is unfortunate that these types of people are around, but it is a fact of life. We have made some modifications to the scripts to stop a re-occurence of this situation.

Thank you all for co-operation and understanding.

Barry

bjft, what I do not understand is: you say that many poeple have signed uf for fast track but did not pay. How is this possible? Do you send them a verification of the payment without such having been made? If so, why?

1. If people have not made a payment, how are they signed in?
2. If they have not paid, how have they taken this money from the program, when in fact they never paid it.

Why not just delete such scoundrels. Let them realize their mischievous ways have been detected and they can no longer enter the program in any way and under any circumstances, to protect others who entered properly.

This is to safeguard those who enter into these programs in trust and are not unnecessarily taken advantage of, now or in the future.

peterben

Peterben,

Because the scripts are automated for signup after payment is made, a hack on the script enabled them to signup without going through the payment first. This hole has now been plugged.

Once the verification has been completed these invalid accounts will be deleted.

Due to these invalid signups some members have cycled and been paid, it does not amount to $5000 paid out but it does represent a loss of revenue for humanitarian aid.

Barry

Just what we need to have among us...all these squirmy infiltrators wanting to earn MUCH without any as expected from them as is the requirement....sheer deception and grreed as a result...an all too often scenario!!!

We always can and have grace for that sort of "un"natural conduct by some... to be patient on this necessary move...God speed and be stricter from there on.

However, please attend to the email I sent you regarding your request that the SFi amount that was transferred to 10by5 cycle SFi account, that was done last week and no remittance seen as yet to be deposited into my Ebullion as you advised would happen.

I must add, this is a service Barry is extending to me... so, no pressure nor demand, just worried if you did not get to see that transfer to be aware of it...

Thanks,

YB.

Hi YB,

Sorry about that never saw the transaction have put the funds into your EB account.

Barry

I would like to know from administration! How are you going make adjustments to the cycler!! Since theirs a 100 that didn't paid for the Fast Track ? That leaves a lot !!! of empty holes!! Are we! ( the ones that honestly paid !! ) going to be bump up in the cycle to cover those empty holes? How are you going to make theses adjustments???? And how can you operate the cycler if over 100 didn't paid for there fast track?? I feel that giving unverified accounts two weeks to get verify is TOOOOO!!! Long!!!

rolando

Originally Posted by bjft

Peterben,

Because the scripts are automated for signup after payment is made, a hack on the script enabled them to signup without going through the payment first. This hole has now been plugged.

Once the verification has been completed these invalid accounts will be deleted.

Due to these invalid signups some members have cycled and been paid, it does not amount to $5000 paid out but it does represent a loss of revenue for humanitarian aid.

Barry

I understand your fustration Barry, we will always have to protect our programs from Jealous and just plain fools. But is this with in the RC TEAM? I dont believe so and have talked are meet most in our team which is at about 100. except for the ones outside of the Team. If you find a culprit in our Team We want to know and we will deal with it here at RC also by a major Ban and Blog set out for this or these individuals. I have very important freinds involved with the FBI for Investigations and court witnesses for Trails on Hackers. You know that carries at least 20 years for that crime in itself. To me that is not enough for the individual as he has ruined people's lives. Like are just as bad as Murder in IMO.

Originally Posted by bjft

Hi YB,

Sorry about that never saw the transaction have put the funds into your EB account.

Barry

Thanks Barry and I will check later as well as verify our accounts too... now at another location and busy as well... but don't let up on those 100 critters that crawled into the Cycler without paying.... Spurs ain't enough to rub in on their hinds...but we have to deal straight with those culprits as it comes... they tried and they were spotted, their point was made and their attempt failed and deserve to be unmasked and be good riddance!!!

People like them will repent only to buy time, save face and start all over again when the opportunity shows up... so no deals to be made with their promises to turn over a new leaf... WE WON'T BUY THAT...c'mon...cheating a program over $50 BUCKS????

DON'T ever FALL for that slimy excuse & trick!!!

Wow, amazing how fast these posts followed. Thank you for your answer Barry. Am glad the problem was solved.

Also, if these people that did this come from outside of RC, then outsiders should not be bumped up first, but RC members, don't you think? If RC members were involved, then I agree with "Neno" that they should be dealt with harshly. This is not to be without mercy, but consider all the scams that occur throughout the online businesses, I think it is time that someone see to it that people are called to justice and due penalties.

This is why I strongly hope that some people in the know, can do something to get an agency started that will follow-up on scam and can take action that brings results of getting to these kind of disruptors. The net is becoming a place where dishonesty and attempts and success in crimes occur daily. Included in these are: spams, the least of them; while double and multiple unasked-for-billing happens frequently. Billing where only freight charges were involved end up with full charges and no products were received, not even the samples.

False promises of sites for earnings, after hefty purchase price of a franchise, etc, etc. Letters sent are returned as there is no forwarding address. These are things that happened to my wife and me. Surely, others have been had in similar fashion. We know of one who was had for a fair amount as we, asking us if we had any bad experiences?

If any of you have had similar things happen to you, let's try to find out what can be done to get to some legal authotity. There must be some way something can be done to stop such attempts at the roots and wheed them out legally.

peterben

Neno, I'm sorry, but I disagree with you on one point: the people who hack and do unfair and illegal actions are NOT just "jealous and just plain fools". As far as I can see on the net, they are bent on doing something intentionally illegal and are downright criminal if it comes to taking money from others, etc. It is in fact robbing, as they enter into ilegal software maneuvers to enter sites to cause damage and/or steel information or money by deception.

Neno, you make a strong statement at the end of your post, calling for justice, so I know you basically agree that these people are not just jealous and plain fools, right?

peterben