All Stage 5 Payouts (non Vip) Will Begin Soon!!!!! Just Passing On The News From The Those Who Have Been Paid.
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All Stage 5 Payouts (non Vip) Will Begin Soon!!!!! Just Passing On The News From The Those Who Have Been Paid.
Did you read this off the SI forum????
If People have been PAID since JUNE ,I for ONE would like to see PROOF POSITIVE screen shots from at LEAST 1 person. I won't believe it till I see it Happen. SHOW ME, AND over 100,000 other People, the MONEY!
Grogan tell those so called "paid people " to come in here and post themselves , otherwise you're a liar !!
Hey woody you can piss off for all I care! Im just passing on the news, if you were paying attention you would know the VIPs are not allowed to even discuss (unfortunetley) that they have been paid..If you dont want to believe, then why do you even check out the forum.
Grogan, is this info on the SI forum????Quote:
Originally Posted by Grogan
Thanks.
Hey Grogan , I'm dealing in reality
This News Comes Directly Down From A Vip That I Know Personally And He Has Been Paid!!!
well, bob,
i wouldn't be surprised if Grogan's sources are consistent with those who have been posting at pingman's in the past... (which would seem logical to me... there is a path of indications & contributions that just seems too true & sincere to me)
And contrary to those who sometimes wish that badmouthing members don't deserve any payout and have their account cancelled, I even hope you one day will get (at least) your (principal) money in your account... and learn some wisdom out of it (like, [edit: who am i to tell you... but i still hope you do so it ain't for nothing]...).
Take care,
Hasse
ps grogan... would you mind posting your info at that other forum I think we both are members of too? I think it'll be more appreciated (and consistent with the others) there ;).
If there is a "non disclosure" agreement why is this VIP passing info on ? isn't that a violation ? and why are you passing this info on Grogan ?
Grogan, Keep up the great work. keep us posted with more info!!!!!
Thanks
Trapper
... and good luck neglecting posts which won't change anything to the matter :biggrin:...
I wish that the VIP new when the site would come back or if they are going to pay everyone first then bring the site back up? either way i would love to see the money lol
Pinetree, What is your thoughts on all this? Come on and give us some of your good stuff!!!!!
Anyone go onto the SI forum for news???
Hasse, If you were to look back at all my postings. You will see I only ask for one thing, and one thing only SHOW ME PROOF POSITIVE! SHOW ME THE MONEY! anyone can can come on here, and say Hey guys we are getting Paid. ---I could even come here, and say it. ----all I ask for is for people to stop Posting Bullcrap about SI Paying without PROOF! ----Just one reliable Post or LINK, Or SCREENSHOT of their account and Pay out within the past 3 and 1/2 Months. Then I will remain quiet, and stop voiceing my request for "SHOW ME, and the others, THE MONEY!"----Is that a Negative thing to ask for? The TRUTH IS HARD TO SWALLOW, but if SI is Paying It should not be keeping us all closed mouthed about it. ----SHOW ME PROOF POSITIVE---and clear my guilt for leading Innocent people into this MESS.
You guys keep showing SAM COLINS as the CEO. If he is such a great CEO. WHY does he continue to remain silent? ----If he is truley a Man of Integrity WHY can't he have the decency to Address the Issue Himself? ---PAY US ALL, AND ANSWER ALL THE BURNING QUESTIONS.
I am Just a fallen Messenger of SI, and I have the BALLS to say I GOT burned by SI, and SAM COLINS, and MR SOSA. Lied to, and Made to believe That this program of SI would be my financial saviour for 5 to 10 more years. While all the while being Paid Peanuts for recruiting, and being kept in the dark with no communications from the Great CEO and CO.
You don't have to have concern for me. As I have concern for all Members of SI. even You , Grogan, Pinetree, and all the other members (and Myself) still hanging on for dear life. But I for one of many, still want to see some SOLID PROOF!
As for why do we keep comming back here to this site. It should be evident to anyone-----there is always a hope that we weren't all taken as fools. while the SI COMPANY sits back Laughing their asses off at us.
OK bob...
if you want to continue repeating this all over, I hope it really makes you feel better.
Btw..
I don't expect any proof posted... as it won't lead anywhere for several reasons... of which the main is the only proof for most will be the payout they're waiting for.
I don't hang on for dear life... as I just invested a small part of what i could miss... as advised by many... this probably makes it easier not to hang on but move on and give credit & patience (which apparently is too easily considered as blind cheerleading here) untill future tells...
And most of all... to all... please don't focus on dates... the only date that will count, is the payout date... on that we agree... but it will happen when it will happen... and won't rely on what's been written here. It's fun to feed hope and play around with speculation about info at the fora. But it should not be much more than that... it won't change the future. It just changes how you feel and spend your time now.
Hope you can turn your fallen messenger in a wiser raising one, no matter what happens with SI. Building confidence & experience very well might only be possible the hard way... and as such should not be made or broken by one big bad/good experience... (although we should always learn... but... how... :rolleyes: )
Take care, and good luck,
Hasse
well My way of dealing with this type of hyip is to warn others of the downside of having faith in People who are just out to steal your money.
I am tired of telling my feelings. So I will let this whole BAD experience be as it should be. DEAD and Buried! It is becoming an illness for some who have the deep faith, and even after being Shafted, still Bend Over for More, and still keep trying to praise, and promote this DEAD Program. (classified in the Forum as A scam and failed project.) Have a nice dream and I hope someday you will be able to see the hoplessness In what is going on here. SI IS DEAD ----RIP.
Bob, in your own eloquent way you captured the sentiment for me exactly. Same as with Pips. I am sick of the charade of "come backs" that defy logic, reason, economics and just plain reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by bob1940
Funny black and white thinking again, with no place in between screaming all the time scam and where's my money... OR 'have faith' etc. Writing 'have patience, wait and see, it might make sense' makes you a praising & promoting cheerleader.
Well, I guess it makes the world a lot simpler to deal with. No need for nuances or a little more complex reality.
I wonder if (more) people will ever get over having such a hard time dealing with those who are not screaming along... on either side.
I must admit I make that mistake sometimes too, but even if you are sick and tired of the situation (which I fully understand) at least one can TRY to understand and accept the other view without working your frustration out on them. It does not help anyone any further.
Hasse
It is fine to Dream! we are all dreamers! But when our dreams turn into Nightmares, it is time to awake to reality, and face the simple black, and white Truth-----The Theifs broke into our live's, and stole our dreams, ----and money. No offense to you personally Hasse---But It's time to wake up from the dream---Nightmare. Put SI to rest, and drop the BS about it's return, and false promises of payouts. . SI "RIP".
One last thought, two actually:
- if SI comes back, you won't need rolclub to find out ;). So no matter how, it's safe to move on... especially if you feel more bad than good about it all;
- you use the word 'nightmare'... maybe that's an interesting point to understand: as I didn't invest much and didn't invite anyone in... with little to loose and much to win... and I still see it as an extremely high risk investment... That makes it probably much easier to give credit and wait... and explains a fair bit of our difference in dealing with this situation.
Anyway... with all this much ado about nothing, which isn't good for our mental welfare nor brings us much further (except for some rare but valuable & learning moments of mutual understanding), i hope you can stick with your decision, really...
Take care,
Hasse
this stuff wears me out! I come and see what the latest is... but I know better to invest too much hope in it. I say, I'll believe it when I see it. Of course I always say too... never say never............. HA!
Well guys i hate to dispell the myth but if a seven figure + account is classed as a VIP in SI i had 3 and have not seen 1 cent come back to me and doubt that i will .Just get on with your life and create something else.You know the silly thing is if a lot of these crooks spent as much energy creating legit enterprises they would actually do better in the long run, without the possibility of being taken out one day
Eaglerob,
if you're talking about your original investment (and not the actual compounded amount) this indeed isn't consistent with that other info. Thanks for sharing...
Hasse
According to Pingman we won't be paid till December or January because of problems.
In other words MORE PHONY delays. LOL.
Hey, bob... you shouldn't be here ;) (but neither should I ;)).
Take care, all, and enjoy the weekend,
Hasse
Dear Hasse,Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasse
I think that Bob, like the rest of us, just wants the truth. Truth is verifiable.
Speculations cannot be verified, thus the endless frustration, and I am very frustrated at the endless excuses and delays that just don't seem to make good business sense or fit into the reality of what we know as "common sense" i.e, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it's a ---- (fill in the blank.) I am not bashing anyone; but when other posters ask to "tell us the good news about SI" it really is just rumor and speculation. I guess the better question is, "tell us some more good speculation that cannot be verified that are made by unknown sources!" Since SI disappeared with no communication, does not appear to be paying anyone we know of, does allegedly pay VIP members who can't say anything, etc......What is a clear thinking individual to believe? Well, at our dinar forum we know everything right now is rumor and speculation, and we accept that. The thing is, Iraq exists,(verified) they have the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world (verified), potentially 75% more oil reserves that have not been explored yet (verified) they have potential farmlands off the Tigris/Euphrates river valley that could provide food for the entire Middle East (verified), the dinar used to be valued much higher (verified) and is being kept artificially low in the dollar to dinar ratio for 3 years (verified) and has been stated by news sources from the CBI that it will be revalued significantly by the end of this year (verified) just to name a few. So yes, it is a risk but not the kind of risk that SI turned out to be. It is one thing to be hopeful (very important) but being hopeful is not the same thing as hoping to get the truth, which we have not gotten yet with SI. Therein lies the problem, especially in an HYIP arena where where most have been burned. Make sense? No argument here. Arguments are pointless, because it's what people want to "believe" at this point. If some chose to believe in SI's return or not, as long as we don't bash each other, this is still a forum open to all viewpoints. I know Bob retains hope (not trying to speak for you here Bob) as do I. But when people post good news (speculation) as fact that is what causes a stir...:cheers: Speaking of stir, I think I'll "stir" a good drink about now.
Yep,more hypothetical dates that will come and go before the next lot of hypothetitical dates that will c.......:toofunny:Quote:
Originally Posted by bob1940
I am Not requesting sides to be taken, nor arguments of what is right ,and what is wrong. I do though want to thank "Whatever" for giving a more eloquent explaination of my frustrations and reasons why I, and many others feel as I do. THANK YOU.
What we are getting here is 'pipeline' information. Pipeline information is NEVER fact and we should all be able to acknowledge that. My desire is that we continue to get 'pipeline' information and I thank those who, although often abused, continue to provide this. Whether I believe it represents reality or not is irrelevant to everyone else including the provider of that information. If you think you will never get paid by SI then that is what you believe. That is no more verifiable at this time than someone who believes that SI will pay all of us. I witness a level of vilification of the 'pipeline' information providers that I honestly believe is unwarranted. I would suggest that we live our lives not antcipating a windfall future payout but only retaining a readiness to respond to and process anything we may have to do if SI does proceed to reward our investment with them. We are globally situated individually but I would nonetheless like to just put my arms around your shoulders and both encourage you and commiserate with you.
Just my take on this matter. Thanks.
Well Said!