Adster,
Sent my payment out yesterday! All that is left for me to do is :waiting: ! Can't wait until it gets here! I ordered from you! Will keep you updated!:cheers:
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Adster,
Sent my payment out yesterday! All that is left for me to do is :waiting: ! Can't wait until it gets here! I ordered from you! Will keep you updated!:cheers:
choochie,
Can you pm your username and I'll track it. :0) Great news and many thanks. Once you get those little beauties make sure you hide them away well. ;0)
More good news, found this article. Goes to show and confirm what Mike said earlier that with all the trouble and animosity out there when it comes to doing business and trading it makes no odds at all.
Things are happening at an alarming rate.
UK exports to Iraq up 150 per cent despite growing violence
http://www.iraqdirectory.com/DisplayNews.aspx?id=168
:woohoo: Hey crew...this sounds good...is there a website i can visit to get some infor on the dinars program and etc...MWJ!!!
Hi MWJ,
Pm'd you on this. ;0)
I wonder if my favourite and best customer who was so good enough and had the foresight to order 7 million Dinars through me could pm me so I could 'monitor' the order through my back office.
Unfortunately my box was so full that had to delete some messages and this must have been one of them. Doh!
Thanks.
:party: Thanks crew...i will check my pm and get into this soon...MWJ!!!
No problem, the idea is we all do well from others insights. ;0)
Small update from Bush. He so badly wants Iraq to get back on track, and he normally gets what he wants.
http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_3070521
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More good news. :D Don't miss out on this one.
The Timing is Right to Invest in Iraq's Future Oil Economy
Invest in the New Iraqi Dinar to capitalize on progress in Iraq along with rising oil and gas prices. History and current trends in Iraq point to promising returns.
(PRWEB) September 22, 2005 -- Many people have not heard the progress reports and good news coming out of Iraq for the last year and a half. The media has focused mainly on the problems in Iraq: conflict, bombings, and insurgency.
It will amaze many people in five or even 10 years when Iraq returns as a prosperous part of the international family. Many people will wonder exactly how Iraq could have got there, as they are seemingly only in the news when the bombs go off, or the blood flows. After reading even two weeks worth of any of the progress reports and good news summaries, you will see exactly how they have been heading in that direction.
The progress and good news has been happening since the end of the war - for about a year and a half now. Early investors in Iraq through the New Iraqi Dinar have enjoyed watching their investment more than double in value since then. This is just the beginning for the New Iraqi Dinar and Iraq, as you will see.
The recent approval of the draft of Iraq's Constitution sets up another historic forward advance. On Oct. 15th, the people of Iraq are scheduled to vote and approve this New Constitution. This could have another positive effect on the Dinar and increase its value further.
The New Iraqi Dinar (NID) was introduced in October 2003 to stop counterfeiting and remove Saddam from the old Dinar notes. This New Iraqi Dinar was introduced and a 3 month exchange period occurred to phase out the old currencies which are only valuable to collectors now. The New Iraqi Dinar offers a great investment as its value is at an all time low. Before Saddam came to power, the Dinar was worth $3.30 per Dinar. During his rule, the Dinar fell to an international exchange rate low of $0.30 per Dinar. Right now, you can buy 1 Million Dinar for less than $1,000.00 U.S. If it returns to only be worth $0.01 per Dinar, 1 Million Dinar will be worth $10,000 U.S.
This is a similar situation to what happened in Japan and Germany after WWII. Their economies were at an all time low and rebuilding so you could buy up a large amount of their currency for very little. Buy low, right? They were later to exchange it when it was worth much more. In Iraq, the U.S. government has committed over $200 billion into the future of Iraq. They are contributing $18 billion in reconstruction aid, along with other countries in Europe and Japan who have also committed further reconstruction aid. Their reconstruction has begun.
The New Iraqi Dinar is also an investment that offers a way to capitalize on current and historic trends. The Dinar is at an all time low value, as it has historically been a strong and valuable currency. The main strength of Iraq's economy, and thus the Dinar, is Iraq's oil revenues.
Iraq plans on opening 11 more oil wells by the end of the year, and steadily increasing their oil exports in the next two to three years. This combined with rising natural gas and oil prices will lend strongly to Iraq's bottom line. Iraq has the largest natural gas reserves in the world and the second largest oil reserves. Iraq also owns all its oil rights for the next 100 years.
Another great aspect of this investment is that it is not limited to institutions or just wealthy investors. The small investor can get started for less than $100 and realize good returns.
I've bought 300,000 New Iraqi Dinar but I'm not getting too excited.
I think it will be many years before the world bank values it.
How can they with all the bombings and insurgency going on.
If it was so close as Adster suggests every American will become a millionair.
Every brit too.
You can even buy it on ebay, that says it all for me.
It's possible it may never happen.
Companys like freedinar are springing up and making $200 or so profit on every million sold, a tidy return if it went on for years.
Don't get carried away with this, a change of government could mean a change in currency leaving us with worthless paper.
Just my opinion.
Hassle,
As an article further up suggested, trade is up 150% from Britain, and that with all the bombings going on. Do you really think the unrest really makes a difference? The unrest has been going on for years, the ID was at .32 just before the War when Saddam was in charge.
As for it being sold in lots of places, so what? What does that prove? These people have already lined their pockets with Dinars and are making money on top, why not?!
This has happened before with Kuwait and they had nowhere near the oil reserve that Iraq has. That's the key, OIL=MONEY, that's why so many countries are interested. ;0)
Just my opinion on the research I've done. It's all coming together nicely and I think will be sooner than later. Once the IMF have approved loans worth "a few hundred" million dollars which would not go to building projects but would bolster the central bank's finances and backstop the Iraqi currency.
I feel this will come later in the year and will be the springboard for the World Bank to put a peg on the Dinar.
We'll see, then again, it could be sooner, or later, lol.
Where and how do we go about purchasing the Dinar? When you purchase the Dinar how do you go about selling it when the time comes?
so trade is up 150% from Britain, big deal. who cares about Britain?
up from what? zilch!
if you think a million dinars at $900 is great value think again.
it doesn't matter how low it's value right now, it can go lower.
you can buy a million turkish lira for less than $1.
and that's been like it for ages.
"Do you really think the unrest really makes a difference?"
wow adster, i can't believe you said that.
that's real innocent people getting slaughtered every day in iraq, have some respect and stop thinking about all the millions you're (un)likely to make.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adster
hassle,
Why did you invest in them if you don't think they will go up in value?
The point was that Britain's trade with them has gone up by 150% already and that with all the civil unrest going on. Goes to show that whatever unrest there is it makes no difference to what happens to the Dinar. The fighting over there has been going on for hundreds of years.
We're not talking bout the Turkish lira, this is the Dinar. How can a value of 0.001 to the dollar go any lower?! lol, wake up.
Have some respect? Don't patronise me and take my comment out of context, it was said in a way that no matter what happens out there it won't affect a pegging of the Dinar.
adster,
I did not invest in the dinar.
I GAMBLED.
big difference.
How can a value of 0.001 to the dollar go any lower?!
are you serious?
actualy your figure is nearly twice the current value which is 0.0006803
of course it can go lower.
:beer:
Hassle,
Any investment is a gamble. You invested in p**s right? That was a gamble. Anything is. You invest in stocks and shares, that's a gamble, there are no guarantees.
If you're so against it going up it why did you put money into it? lol.
Do you really think Bush and the rest of the world will allow the Dinar to drop in value with the amount of debt that has been written off, the restructuring, the new government coming in once Constitution is signed?
Best you do more research Hassle.
I told you why I put money into it in my previous post.
as for Bush, things could go sour on him very fast.
how long do you think the american people, bless them, will put up with seeing their sons and daughters arriving home in body bags?
so much could go wrong but you haven't written one line on the possible downside to this.
as you make an average of 11 posts a day, I'll let you have the last word here as you would have done anyway!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adster
The only downside I see in this is they do away with the currency. Seeing as they have invested billions into it and now have only this 1 currency for the whole country this really won't happen. Remember this currency has only been around for 2 years.
Sorry, I don't see another downside. Yes there are no guarantees but hey, this to me is better than any hyip, mlm, autosurf, sports betting, you name it!!. And the amount of enquiries and pm's etc I've had shows that others feel the same way. ;0)
Interesting,
There will always be those who predict the worst, and that is what is good about these forums, people can contribute with or without knowledge, and that is what makes learning more interesting. After all, if not for this forum, and others like it, most would not have a clue what is going on in Iraq, other than the sad side of lives being lost in the name of freedom.
Could Iraq change currencies again? I highly doubt it, but for those who think it could happen, perhaps you can enlighten us. It would take an invasion, just as Iraq did with Kuwait. What happened then will happen again, the US and others will step in and correct the situation, just as history has taught us. I made out well with the Kuwaiti devaluation, and the only reason I took the risk was that I knew the US would step in, just as we knew the US would step into Iraq, it was simply a matter of time.
OK, so for those who think that the currency could change, please explain why? Remember, it cost billions to replace the old Saddam faced currency, and it was not done for any other reason than to erase Saddam from memory since his picture was plastered on every note. (g)
What happened to old currency, it was exchanged, was it not? So, if there was the remote chance that Bush would run for President in Iraq, I would think he would be the type to want his face plastered all over the bills again, so I think this would be the only plausible scenario for another change in currency. LOL
Good luck to all, Mike
Mike,
Excellent post, total agreement.
Funny, I used to sell cars for a living and when very young even vacuum cleaners! but I never believed in their products and thus could never put 110% into either. THIS ONE I DO.
This for me is such a good gamble in which the odds are so favourable it makes it unmissable to have a few $'s on! It really does. Being honest, I make 3% on whatever anyone orders. This isn't a fortune, and with the amount of emails, pm's I send out, it's really not much at all. I would take more pleasure if say 6 months down the line I get an email from someone saying 'Thanks Ads, for the Dinars link, it's made a real difference to my/our life/lives'.
I'd like others to get wealthy on this. Why not after the current problems with P**s?
That for me would make me feel great. And yes I will continue to update on any news I hear.
Others can possibly get wealthy on this...However, they can buy Dinars direct from other sources than your MLM for the same or lesser monies. I have a feeling that a lot of your enthusiasm is based in building a large downline and not making others wealthy. The previous posts I made were just stating possibilities and their repercussions in the event any of them come to pass. One of the first things that gets changed with a regime change is the money. That's all I was stating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adster
Also, as another post stated, it most certainly could go down in value. Look at airline stocks; they're cheap right now but you don't see everyone gobbling them up (gambling on them) do you? Why? Because they can still go lower and probably will.
I can only say that from my own personal experience, Adster has demonstrated that his interest truly is in making people aware of this opportunity and not simply in building a downline.
Also, as he has clearly pointed out several times, the risk to reward ratio here is extremely attractive. I personally am very grateful to him for bringing it to my attention.
Quote:
Originally Posted by everwiser
Interesting,Quote:
Originally Posted by everwiser
Now I see your reason for skeptical comments, and that is fine, many people hate MLM, so they will try to justify this with the argument you could purchase the same bills elsewhere. Well, this is true, but as you will see, the prices are pretty close to the same as OMPUS is charging. As example, OMPUs is $860. per million, and I have seen prices range from $840. to $910. just recently, and two of those resellers have stopped selling, and they do not offer a buyback assurance which OMPUS does. There is very little commission involved, as Adster pointed out, but heck, if you can refer a few hundred people it adds to your own portfolio at no additional cost, just the time he puts into helping to answer people. Knowing him as many of us do, it is not for the commissions, this is peanuts compared to the upside potential, so I understand your hatred of all that is MLM. (g)
As to the point that it could go down, like an airline stock? This is apples to oranges, hardly the same given the airlines are all in bankruptcy at the moment, or about to go into bankruptcy. Governments don't go into bankruptcy, although I think most would if they could, especially the US. (g) I would be more than happy to hear an accurate example of what could make the Iraq dinar dip. If the oil reserves dried up, yes, maybe. If the two rivers Iraq controls dry up, yes, maybe. If Bush was elected president of Iraq, yes, most definately. LOL So what are the odds of currency dipping in value, ZERO.
Good luck to all, Mike
if the value of the Iraqi dinar went down by just
ONE 10,000th OF 1 CENT
you just LOST 20%
cut's both ways, of course.
I accept that.
but please don't tell people it can't go down because that's not true.
clueless, Mike,
Thanks for your kind words guys. :0)
Just to back up what Mike has said, I've only earnt $120 in commission to date, not a lot considering I've spent hours on pm's and emails, and researching to put the findings on here. The commission side isn't very much at all, so no I'm not just doing this for myself everwiser.
I have met contacts through p**s, rolclub and other forums that I truely like and get on with. They send me bits of info, possible investment opportunities and I do the same to them. If I choose to decide to then invest that is down to me. They're not drilling it down my throat! Lol. At 38 years of age I know what I'm doing! The same on here, I am drawing peoples attention to in my view and others view a 'good investment'. What they then choose to do with it is down to them. Guarantees? No such thing, but you have to research, do your own homework and judge for yourself whether it's a viable option or not.
The end of the day we're all in this together, we all want to make money, either through P**s, Plexpay, ST, whatever!
So please don't think I have my own agenda. Look at some of my 1000 odd posts and you'll get to know my personality. ;0)
As for it going down in value? Sorry, personal and humble opinion, no, can't see it, too many good things happening, too many governments involved, too many countries writing off debt, too much oil being pumped.......
Far as I'm concerned, it's been at the lowest level, and in the words of Yazz and the Plastic Population, with her hit in the 80's, 'The only way is up'!!! :0)
Adam mate, well said!Quote:
Originally Posted by Adster
When we signed up to this forum, we had to click on a link to confirm that we were at least 13 yrs old. I think some people lied.
As you said, little can be guaranteed and we should go into any opportunity with our eyes as wide open as possible.
Sure, we make mistakes and end up working with dodgy companies that make incredible promisses, greed is human nature, but everything is done with some risk.
Whatever vehicle we each choose to reach our financial goals is down to the individual, but this forum and others is a great mechanism for people to share opportunities and report back on how things are performing.
Good luck to everyone.
Investor
I wouldn't say that I'm clueless and (not knowing me) you probably shouldn't either. If I was out of line about you Adster, please accept my apology. I didn't mean to imply that you were less than sincere about helping people. I don't hate MLM's, per se, but you can probably agree with me that most of them only benefit those who were able to get into them very early (not like a Ponzi, I know the difference), those that have a huge social base to present to, or those that are great salespersons to begin with. In this particular case, I'm none of the above.
Lastly, if there's one thing in this world that we can predict it's that we can't be certain of anything. With Iraq being such a hotbed of activity, good and bad, nothing is certain. I was just trying to bring some reality to the current "rosy-ness" of the Dinar. As I said before, I will probably buy the Dinar, but being someone who has to go paycheck to paycheck, signing into an agreement where I have to purchase a minimum dollar amount per month to stay in or profit from the program is just not feasible in my case. I wish you and everyone Good Luck in whatever you/they decide to do.
everwiser,
I wasn't calling you clueless, that was to the other poster who's name is clueless, please read back!
I accept your apology and totally agree on majority of mlm's. I went into buying these dinars with the intention of just buying for myself but the more I read I thought why not let others know about it and they can make their own minds up. The ones that make the real money are the ones at the top/ones selling them, and that's certainly not myself!
As for yourself, you don't have to sell them to anyone else. You can sign up as a customer and order some for only you.
We're all in this together everwiser, and I have no animosity towards anyone on this forum. Nothing would give me more enjoyment than knowing we'd made money out of p**s, dinars, whatever and we all met up in Portugal next year to celebrate and put names to faces and get very drunk, lol.
Good luck to you my friend.
Hear..., HearrrrR Mate...plenty to get drunked and fizzled all over in the streets of Lisbon...hahaaa hope there's no football at that time too...hate the cops to roll in and spoil the mess...hahaa!
Just kidding folks....should Luso get drunk reading this....http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ads/Cheers.gif
My bad...I tend to skip to my last post then read on. Thank you for clarifying that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adster
If this comes to pass, the first drink is on me! Good Luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adster
Hi all,
Just found this from a Baghdad newspaper.
79% of Public in Opinion Poll will vote YES to Constitution
Baghdad, Oct.2 p4
A public opinion polls carried by (Iraqi center of development and international dialogue ) had signified that %79 of Iraqis will votes yes on the draft constitution , while %8 opposing it and %14 of the participants which contains 3625 families didn’t answer whether they vote yes or no on it.The poll also showed that the percentage of voters differ from district to other , for example in Kurdistan provinces there is %94 will votes while %87 voters will votes in the southern provinces , %80 of voters support draft constitution ,%93 in Kurdistan , %91 in the southern provinces ,%3 in Baghdad and central district while the poll pointed %10 of voters reject it .
This is another positive move that shows the country is getting their act together. It's all piecing together nicely. If a peg doesn't happen before the Constitution on 15 Oct, my own feeling is it will be later this year when the IMF approves the loan for Iraq.
:0)))))))))
Interesting,Quote:
Originally Posted by everwiser
Always enjoy both sides of story, so thanks Mike, good to know you are interested. And as to one point you missed, there is no obligation to purchase monthly unless you were to develop referrals below your personal referrals, so don't worry, not commitments are required for any monthly purchases, and I liked that point since most do not want to commit long term for anything these days. Just wanted to clarify this point, as well as, you can purchase as little as $30.00 to test the waters.
Good luck to all, Mike
One of my customers pm'd me a week ago saying they were going to order 7 million ID's. If they could pm me so I can track their order in my back office I'd appreciate it.
Thanks.
Adster.
Update,
Constitution signing on target for October 15th, so D Day is approaching.
Good luck to all, Mike
Hi Mike,
I personally feel a peg wil be imminent once the IMF approve Iraq's loan later in the year. This will be the catalyst to a pegging and the final piece of the jigsaw........
What do you think?
More great news......
http://www.mmorning.com/ArticleC.asp...1&CategoryID=6
And there's more...
http://www.iraqdirectory.com/DisplayNews.aspx?id=204
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I emailed Wells Fargo(US) to see about exchanging the currencies in the future and they replied:
Any idea what they mean? Are they stating the current situation, and just not saying that they will be able to once it "pegs"?Quote:
The Treasury Department has established restrictions that prohibit
offering services for the following restricted countries: Cuba, Iran, Iraq,
Libya, North Korea, Serbia, Montenegro, Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina,
and Unita (Angola).
Interesting,Quote:
Originally Posted by twins0203
Let us look at how banks respond in the west regarding international currency exchanges, they are the last to know. (g) They look to the feds to decide what and when, so not to worry, when the dust settles and the ink dries on Iraqi constitution, then currency will peg, and many other banks will take lead and exchange, and that includes western banks, and fed will be fully aware of it , I assure you. I saw the same thing with Kuwaiti dinar, it dropped like a rock, then slowly came back to former levels, and if you read the history of Iraqi dinar, you will see a very similar situation, only with better potential. Who knows what peg will be, but in months, years, five years, it will certainly be far higher than it is now.
Good luck to all, Mike